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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I wonder deep down in his heart of hearts Trump wishes he could undo the assassination. Because it’s obvious he expected Iran to cower and for him to be universally acclaimed instead of this disaster. not sure if trump truly has the capacity for regret
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Mooseontheloose posted:Wasn't the Virgina midterm elections the first time in two decades that Boomers had less than the majority vote share? Rings a bell.
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theflyingorc posted:The decrease has just started in the last 4 years or so, Boomers weren't dying in significant numbers before that 
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I wonder deep down in his heart of hearts Trump wishes he could undo the assassination. Because it’s obvious he expected Iran to cower and for him to be universally acclaimed instead of this disaster. He hasn't thought about it even once since it happened. If he's thought about anything at all this week except his daughters beautiful body and golf, I'd be amazed.
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Dog tax with a pug xray EDIT: MRI not xray stolen from funny pics thread 
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Kerning Chameleon posted:Nah, gently caress any and all computer touchers, especially the ones on these forums. That is absolutely not what "lanyards" means Mooseontheloose posted:Wasn't the Virgina midterm elections the first time in two decades that Boomers had less than the majority vote share? This November we get to decide if "young" people get to take their country from the mega-olds. We might just do it.
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Berke Negri posted:not sure if trump truly has the capacity for regret i doubt he feels regret but he probably has quiet pangs of "oh gently caress, this might blow up, but then his brain worms eat that part of his brain and he goes back to normal.
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theflyingorc posted:That is absolutely not what "lanyards" means My point stands nonetheless.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:i doubt he feels regret but he probably has quiet pangs of "oh gently caress, this might blow up, but then his brain worms eat that part of his brain and he goes back to normal. if anything this just makes him more mad at everyone else and more likely to lash out because obviously its a "them" problem the way people are reacting, not a "him" one
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Tatsuta Age posted:He hasn't thought about it even once since it happened. If he's thought about anything at all this week except his daughters beautiful body and golf, I'd be amazed. Seriously. The reason all these meetings aren't really put on public record in the way past administrations have is because it would show in bare terms just how much of a mush brained moron he was. It'd probably show it to the extent that you could credibly throw around the 'illegitimate' moniker on everything that he's ever done. If it's demonstrated beyond a shadow of a doubt that the man can't do anything involving the office outside of some properly positioned instrument of a special interest telling him exactly what to do, what does that mean for all the judicial appointments? Or the tax heist? Or the rollback of all the protections from entities like the EPA or the janking with the very soul of the Department of Education? I mean we all know this is the case, but it cannot be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. Allowing too much information access about his goings on would undo that and then everything he's done is in question.
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TulliusCicero posted:The only reason they didn't like Hitler and the Nazis is because he was so obvious and inefficient in their minds They did like Nazis and Hitler, it's just that the country went to war with the Axis and they had to hide it and pretend otherwise.
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So...how much overhead would my boss save if we had UHC or M4A instead of him having to pay higher group premiums each and every year? He didn't raise our rates this year, which almost borders on a raise at his point, but I can't understand why business owners wouldn't just want to be done with this particular business expense. It's got to be a pain in the rear end. Do they just want to lord it over employees or honestly think that UHC would cost them more? Both? I've been trying to cut down on my 50 minute commute and have interviewed with some smaller local sign shops that could really use me but they can't offer health coverage so it's a non starter.
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BiggerBoat posted:Dog tax with a pug xray To note, that's not an x-ray (radiograph), that's an image from an MRI.
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Kerning Chameleon posted:My point stands nonetheless.
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BiggerBoat posted:So...how much overhead would my boss save if we had UHC or M4A instead of him having to pay higher group premiums each and every year? He didn't raise our rates this year, which almost borders on a raise at his point, but I can't understand why business owners wouldn't just want to be done with this particular business expense. It's got to be a pain in the rear end. About 3-ish K a year for singles and up to 7K a year for family coverage. It's going to change depending on how many employees you have, the state, the alignment of the planets, some fuckhead wanting another boat + private plane privileges, etc..
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HelloSailorSign posted:To note, that's not an x-ray (radiograph), that's an image from an MRI. also I'm pretty sure its a human spine according to my theoretical degree in homeopathy .
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BiggerBoat posted:So...how much overhead would my boss save if we had UHC or M4A instead of him having to pay higher group premiums each and every year? He didn't raise our rates this year, which almost borders on a raise at his point, but I can't understand why business owners wouldn't just want to be done with this particular business expense. It's got to be a pain in the rear end. When you depend on your job for health insurance you lose a tremendous amount of leverage as labor. It may be an annoying expense but it is also a way of keeping your employees in a state of dependence where they can't risk losing their job no matter how bad other aspects of it may be.
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BiggerBoat posted:So...how much overhead would my boss save if we had UHC or M4A instead of him having to pay higher group premiums each and every year? He didn't raise our rates this year, which almost borders on a raise at his point, but I can't understand why business owners wouldn't just want to be done with this particular business expense. It's got to be a pain in the rear end. You already have the answer in your own post. Your current job is offering you health insurance, which is keeping you from leaving for a better closer job that does not. If that wasn’t a bargaining tool then your current job would have to pay you more, offsetting any gains they get in reduced overhead. Plus I assume they think their taxes would go up.
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PhazonLink posted:also I'm pretty sure its a human spine according to my theoretical degree in homeopathy . I'm not a dentist, but my reading of that body language tells me that spine is a good boy.
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BiggerBoat posted:So...how much overhead would my boss save if we had UHC or M4A instead of him having to pay higher group premiums each and every year? He didn't raise our rates this year, which almost borders on a raise at his point, but I can't understand why business owners wouldn't just want to be done with this particular business expense. It's got to be a pain in the rear end. This depends on so many things that it would be impossible to answer without seeing his company's tax returns and knowing which M4A plan is put into place. Though it's important to note that medicare for all would not necessarily benefit every single company. Depending on how much they contribute to their employees healthcare plans and how much their taxes would go up it might end up being a net loss to them. Seph fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Jan 7, 2020 |
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BiggerBoat posted:So...how much overhead would my boss save if we had UHC or M4A instead of him having to pay higher group premiums each and every year? He didn't raise our rates this year, which almost borders on a raise at his point, but I can't understand why business owners wouldn't just want to be done with this particular business expense. It's got to be a pain in the rear end. I think that for most corporations this kind of thing isn't a concern. Most publicly traded businesses practice a very short-term focused cycle where they attempt to minimize major changes because they cut into the short-term bottom line. While it would likely be a net gain for the vast majority of businesses, it isn't one that would be reflected in their projections during meetings to stockholders until there were actual plans in place, so for now it's the kind of thing I expect most CEOs completely ignore. That it allows for capital to have more power over labor is a perk, certainly, but I don't think that they'd be especially concerned to lose that one since they have many, many others. edit: vvvvv: do you suppose they'll just wait for one particular think tank to come up with a plan before they all jump on it? The markets seem to be very coordinated with movements on systemic changes like this. Ershalim fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Jan 7, 2020 |
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Ershalim posted:I think that for most corporations this kind of thing isn't a concern. Most publicly traded businesses practice a very short-term focused cycle where they attempt to minimize major changes because they cut into the short-term bottom line. While it would likely be a net gain for the vast majority of businesses, it isn't one that would be reflected in their projections during meetings to stockholders until there were actual plans in place, so for now it's the kind of thing I expect most CEOs completely ignore. Someone's going to run the numbers and try to quantify the savings of health care expenditures becoming taxes versus the cost of increased employee mobility versus the cost of an anti-M4A campaign and find that it's worth it just because one number is smallest. This is the same logic that gives us things like Bloomberg and the Starbucks guy running for president.
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Brony Car posted:Has using “lanyards” as a pejorative insult finally become a thing here? It makes me feel so un-hip. No it's still stupid garbage that was popularized in another thread/forum.
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Kerning Chameleon posted:Nah, gently caress any and all computer touchers, especially the ones on these forums.
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You're supposed to eat each other AFTER the revolution.
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Berke Negri posted:if anything this just makes him more mad at everyone else and more likely to lash out because obviously its a "them" problem the way people are reacting, not a "him" one Yep. I've said it many times but neurotypicals are going to find it almost impossible to fathom why a person with narcissist/borderline disorder does the things that they do.
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yeah he has been saying that poo poo all day on his twitter. he is loving rear end in a top hat.
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The Democrats are a bunch of shithead murderers too and acknowledging it breaks boomer brains.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:yeah he has been saying that poo poo all day on his twitter. he is loving rear end in a top hat. maybe if Obama hadn't extrajudicially murdered a bunch of people with drones then he wouldn't be vulnerable to these critiques
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T. Bombastus posted:anyone who can post during the work day is a kulak. Boss makes a dollar I make a dime that's why I post on company time.
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kidkissinger posted:maybe if Obama hadn't extrajudicially murdered a bunch of people with drones then he wouldn't be vulnerable to these critiques sure and i wasnt trying to defend obama but GOP shitheads are bad faith assholes and were fine with it when he was doing it too. what i mean to say is, i am not gonna give this shitfuck credit for saying the obvious when he is a bad faith rear end in a top hat.
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T. Bombastus posted:anyone who can post during the work day is a kulak. Giving me probations for the posts I make from work is essentially counter-revolutionary.
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Doctor Butts posted:No it's still stupid garbage that was popularized in another thread/forum. If you’ve never interacted with actual DC Lanyard types I can understand this attitude, but even just passing one in the street makes it click. Of course there is using their ID badge on a lanyard as a symbol of power that is a giveaway, but it goes beyond the usual pretentiousness of the elite because the truly contemptible part is the attitude that adjacency to power is the only value. So a cocktail bar is better the more exclusive it is. A jacket is better the more expensive it is. But because they don’t usually hold much power they’re only adjacent to power they’re obsessed with symbols of power, like their lanyard or maintaining the speech decorum that a powerful person would. They tweet like a senator while explaining to a fancy dinner party how dumb voters are. It’s certainly not a new phenomenon in power structures but the DC Lanyard is how it shows up now.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:sure and i wasnt trying to defend obama but GOP shitheads are bad faith assholes and were fine with it when he was doing it too. what i mean to say is, i am not gonna give this shitfuck credit for saying the obvious when he is a bad faith rear end in a top hat. oh yeah he sucks. it's also funny cause they simultaneously are saying that Obama didn't bomb enough terrorists.
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kidkissinger posted:maybe if Obama hadn't extrajudicially murdered a bunch of people with drones then he wouldn't be vulnerable to these critiques Governments have always been able to extrajudicially murder things like pirates and bandits (enemies common to man), and there's at least a CASE to be made for terrorists being similarly classified There's no case to be made for the top general of a sovereign nation you aren't at war with, and anyone comparing the two is being stupid
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Doctor Butts posted:No it's still stupid garbage that was popularized in another thread/forum. It was popularized by the liberal fantasy program The West Wing, where such people are charming, heroic, and essential to the proper functioning of viable democracy.
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theflyingorc posted:Governments have always been able to extrajudicially murder things like pirates and bandits (enemies common to man), and there's at least a CASE to be made for terrorists being similarly classified
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