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Saagonsa
Dec 29, 2012

mind the walrus posted:

Literally every anime or manga I've tried to read or adapt to since 2007 has made me feel like I should be on a loving watchlist for looking at it and I dare you to name something completely bereft of the otaku factor-- and no "deconstructionist takes" don't count.

Our Dreams at Dusk

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Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018
Women are wonderful animals, they should be making music and writing novels about having a complex relationship with your mother.

mind the walrus posted:

Literally every anime or manga I've tried to read or adapt to since 2007 has made me feel like I should be on a loving watchlist for looking at it and I dare you to name something completely bereft of the otaku factor-- and no "deconstructionist takes" don't count.

My go-to recommendation is always Delicious in Dungeon. It's about a Dungeons & Dragons style group of adventurers who decide that buying food to take into a dungeon is too expensive, so instead they will learn how to cook the monsters they defeat in the dungeon.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Saagonsa posted:

Our Dreams at Dusk
Decent loving answer

I'm not going to rush out to read another teen coming-of-age story, but props for finding a manga where the teenagers are at least discernibly older than 12.

Gripweed posted:

My go-to recommendation is always Delicious in Dungeon. It's about a Dungeons & Dragons style group of adventurers who decide that buying food to take into a dungeon is too expensive, so instead they will learn how to cook the monsters they defeat in the dungeon.



Not bad, but honestly the fact that the little girl is clearly a focal point is a huge mark against it. Nothing wrong with young girl characters, but in anime there's a bit more of a gross factor. Guilt-by-associative-tropes I suppose.

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Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018
Women are wonderful animals, they should be making music and writing novels about having a complex relationship with your mother.

mind the walrus posted:

Not bad, but honestly the fact that the little girl is clearly a focal point is a huge mark against it. Nothing wrong with young girl characters, but in anime there's a bit more of a gross factor. Guilt-by-associative-tropes I suppose.

That's not a little girl, that's an adult woman. And she's the focal point of that page, but all four of the main characters get equal time

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Oct 15, 2012

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mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Gripweed posted:

That's not a little girl, that's an adult woman.



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that's an adult woman



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an adult woman

This is exactly what I'm talking about.

christmas boots posted:

If you don’t like JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure you are homophobic

JoJo's is cool enough but JoJo fans keep me from bothering with it. It was made before 2007 though so somehow it escaped whatever illness in the mid-00s turned the overwhelming majority of anime/manga designs into creepy(ier) versions of little girls.

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Oct 30, 2009

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I liked vampire hunter D

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

mind the walrus posted:

How could the first half of your sentence be so right when the second half is so wrong?

Marketing and the Executive level will literally never let superheroes created after 1980 gain traction unless there's either insane demand and/or the creator basically signs over all the important rights and residuals to the company.

The really sad part is that there's still plenty of heroes like that-- I'd bet the new Ms. Marvel falls into that category; no loving way is Sana Amanat, G. Willow Wilson, and Adrian Alphona getting paid good money every time they slap her on a T-shirt-- but most companies are painfully risk-averse and insist on tying characters to existing franchises and worlds.

Marvel doesn’t pay royalties, so they don’t mind using newer stuff.

QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

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Carrie (1976) is a better movie than The Shining and is a better King adaptation, because Kubrick is overrated and King's camp horror novels don't deserve the auteur treatment, they deserve schlocky camp. Carrie delivers.

JollyBoyJohn
Feb 13, 2019

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QuickbreathFinisher posted:

Carrie (1976) is a better movie than The Shining and is a better King adaptation, because Kubrick is overrated and King's camp horror novels don't deserve the auteur treatment, they deserve schlocky camp. Carrie delivers.

Kubrick is definitely over-rated, I'll give you that

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

who is better than Kubrick?

DandyLion
Jun 24, 2010
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hawowanlawow posted:

who is better than Kubrick?

Living? I'd say Villeneuve, though it feels a bit disingenuous since he hasn't had that long to gently caress something up.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

DandyLion posted:

Living? I'd say Villeneuve, though it feels a bit disingenuous since he hasn't had that long to gently caress something up.
Kubrick can be overrated, but imagine saying this poo poo with a straight face. Who knows though he's about the same number of years into his career that Kubrick was when he made 2001, so maybe Villeneuve will thread the impossible needle with Dune and blow our minds.

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

I don't really watch a lot of movies so I'm curious as to who people say

Obviously Lynch and Kurosawa are on Kubrick's level but I can't think of anyone else

The only movie I've seen by Villeneuve is blade runner 2049 and I thought it was inoffensive but forgettable action schlock

DandyLion
Jun 24, 2010
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mind the walrus posted:

Kubrick can be overrated, but imagine saying this poo poo with a straight face.

Checkmate, my face is all kinds of crooked.

JollyBoyJohn
Feb 13, 2019

For Real!

hawowanlawow posted:

who is better than Kubrick?

James Cameron and Steven Spielberg

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
"Kubrick is overrated" is completely tangential to whether or not the Shining is worse than Carrie.

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018
Women are wonderful animals, they should be making music and writing novels about having a complex relationship with your mother.
It drives me crazy that they keep doing remakes of movies based on Stephen King books but won't give us the one we all want: The Langoliers.

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Mar 14, 2005

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Gripweed posted:

It drives me crazy that they keep doing remakes of movies based on Stephen King books but won't give us the one we all want: The Langoliers.

If the other recent remakes and adaptations are any indication of what we'd get, I'd rather they just leave it alone. The only way I'd be convinced to pay to see it in a theater is if King came out publicly saying he hated it, because every time he says something based on his work is good lately he has been very incorrect.

also re: who is better than Kubrick, I'm going to go with Ridley Scott on account of thats the only movie director whose name I remember off the top of my head aside from James Cameron/Spielberg who have both already been mentioned, plus neither of them made Kingdom of Heaven.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Henchman of Santa posted:

"Kubrick is overrated" is completely tangential to whether or not the Shining is worse than Carrie.
The Shining is better for the way it managed to break the brains of viewers trying to analyze it. Kubrick's ASD dissociative, geometrically-obsessed style creates an uncanny pool that reflects the viewer and tricks them into thinking that standard filmmaking continuity errors are a hidden message because "Kubrick never did anything by accident."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJr7TEVvjqw

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018
Women are wonderful animals, they should be making music and writing novels about having a complex relationship with your mother.
The original Langoliers movie is one of the best King adaptations. better than Pet Cemetery, better than It. The only thing that drags it down is the absolute dogshit CGI on the langoliers. A modern remake would fix that

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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The Sun Dog or The Library Policeman. Make the movies you cowards!

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006


I need Boomer jokes screaming about kids not knowing what a Polaroid is

(or alternatively, it's all on smartphone cameras and drives purists loving loopy)

Blue Moonlight
Apr 28, 2005
Bitter and Sarcastic

Gripweed posted:

The original Langoliers movie is one of the best King adaptations. better than Pet Cemetery, better than It. The only thing that drags it down is the absolute dogshit CGI on the langoliers. A modern remake would fix that

Let’s just give the original the George Lucas treatment and redo the CGI.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

mind the walrus posted:

I need Boomer jokes screaming about kids not knowing what a Polaroid is

(or alternatively, it's all on smartphone cameras and drives purists loving loopy)

Sorry, Polaroid is a thing again now.

DandyLion
Jun 24, 2010
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Blue Moonlight posted:

Let’s just give the original the George Lucas treatment and redo the CGI.

I'm not sure Hayden Christensen can pull that off

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018
Women are wonderful animals, they should be making music and writing novels about having a complex relationship with your mother.

Blue Moonlight posted:

Let’s just give the original the George Lucas treatment and redo the CGI.

honestly yeah I'm 100% down for that.

Pastry of the Year
Apr 12, 2013

Whenever they make a sequel to a movie based on a Stephen King short story, it should be subtitled "Jobe's War" and they can just figure it loving out as to how to make it work

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Blue Moonlight posted:

Let’s just give the original the George Lucas treatment and redo the CGI.

MacLunckoliers!

Saagonsa
Dec 29, 2012

Screenlooking/screenpeaking was always 100% acceptable and everyone did it

Phosphine
May 30, 2011

WHY, JUDY?! WHY?!
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Saagonsa posted:

Screenlooking/screenpeaking was always 100% acceptable and everyone did it

Perfect Dark let you black out your screen by crouching twice, so you could camp in a corner somewhere without the others seeing where you were if they missed when you ran there. Best game.

QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

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Henchman of Santa posted:

"Kubrick is overrated" is completely tangential to whether or not the Shining is worse than Carrie.

Fair, but I also have trouble separating art from artist in the case of the Shining, since Kubrick basically psychologically tortured Shelley Duvall into giving that performance. He had gotten a bit better by the end with Eyes Wide Shut but early Kubrick can kick rocks.

I guess my amended take is that I think the original Pet Sematary, Langoliers, and Carrie are all better movies and better adaptations than The Shining because I agree that those are great.

What I really want is a Rose Madder movie but it would be horribly overwrought in the current film climate.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
The original Pet Sematary is underrated, even if it's really silly (a ghost rents a car!). The remake sucked rear end and was super nihilistic but for the sake of filmmaking I'm glad they changed which kid got zombified.

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The best music, objectively, is from the 80s. Full stop.

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I am referring to the 1780s before some jackass chimes in about how the 1980s were actually bad musically

JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

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Solice Kirsk posted:

The Sun Dog or The Library Policeman. Make the movies you cowards!

The Long Walk

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Mar 14, 2005

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JnnyThndrs posted:

The Long Walk

I think they are planning to make one on this, but I'm sure they'll screw it up by inserting a lot of teen romance stuff into it and make it a hunger games knockoff. The walk itself will probably take place in the last 20 minutes after an hour and a half of buildup where we learn their tragic backstories so we know whether to feel bad when a walker gets terminated.

BaldDwarfOnPCP
Jun 26, 2019

by Pragmatica

JollyBoyJohn posted:

James Cameron and Steven Spielberg

Spielberg is overrated as poo poo

DandyLion
Jun 24, 2010
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oldpainless posted:

I am referring to the 1780s before some jackass chimes in about how the 1980s were actually bad musically

More like Old Refrainless

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JollyBoyJohn
Feb 13, 2019

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BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:

Spielberg is overrated as poo poo

I'm gonna stick my neck out here and say that Spielberg is actually under-rated. I say this because I'm not a big movie guy but Spielberg has he has directed so many films that I'd call all-time classics. I've never left a Spielberg movie with an empty feeling or like I'd wasted my time.

This contrasts with the 2 films that most disappointed me recently: No Country for Old Men and American Psycho which I enjoyed both of but certainly felt let down by the endings and kinda unsatisfied by in a way a Spielberg film hasn't came close to making me feel.

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