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Dave Gettleman, Daniel Jones, Joe Judge, several computer people: the future is bright!
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Jan 7, 2020 20:09
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Do coaches normally get a signing bonus? Can't recall seeing that before but I'm sure it's happened. https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1214625236504719361?s=20
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Jan 7, 2020 20:14
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OJ MIST 2 THE DICK posted:Jimmy's still paying back the money he defrauded remember Lol no he's not. Never charged and they let the statute of limitations expire. Billionaire justice
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Jan 7, 2020 20:14
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wandler20 posted:Do coaches normally get a signing bonus? Can't recall seeing that before but I'm sure it's happened. probably needs some cash to move to carolina no real reason for them to have a signing bonus because there's not a salary cap to game, it's gotta just be his need for cash up front rather than down the road
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Jan 7, 2020 20:17
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three posted:Dave Gettleman, Daniel Jones, Joe Judge, several computer people: the future is bright! The No Name Front Office
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Jan 7, 2020 20:21
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The Browns are going to end up with HC Greg Schiano/OC Cam Cameron and DC Gregg Williams and it will be the funniest season in recorded history.
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Jan 7, 2020 20:23
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spanky69 posted:The Browns are going to end up with HC Greg Schiano/OC Cam Cameron and DC Gregg Williams and it will be the funniest season in recorded history. itll take a lot to unseat the 2012 Jets
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Jan 7, 2020 20:28
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Isn't schiano back at rutgers?
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Jan 7, 2020 20:28
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evilweasel posted:Yeah, and I'm not convinced it was a bad pick. Brady skipped the pre-season workouts and then he got injured quickly, so he never got into a good grove with Brady. Again, that's them talking after the fact. Before the draft I doubt they thought Harry should go in the first round, but they're praising it because Patriots, right? They must know what they're doing so better to get in on the ground floor. I was never trying to say he was a bad pick in a vacuum or will be a bad player, I said he was picked too early and before more deserving players and may not fit what the Patriots are trying to do on offense. They needed more top end speed imo, Metcalf, Marquise or AJ Brown, Deebo Samuel, etc. all would've been better picks. Hell they very likely could've gotten Harry with a 2nd or 3rd round pick as he was generally rated as the 6th to 10th best WR in that draft, instead they went first rounder. I'll shut up about Harry now, I just like thinking about how things could be different if different choices were made
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Jan 7, 2020 20:30
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The Giants pulled a Jets in almost the exact manner. Interview and make McCarthy a leading candidate. Get spurned by Rhule Panic hire based on recommendation of a legend. https://twitter.com/TomRock_Newsday/status/1214614705572139009
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Jan 7, 2020 20:31
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zimbomonkey posted:Isn't schiano back at rutgers? He can just claim that his "dream job" opened with the Browns and have them buy out Rutgers like the Panthers did with Rhule/Baylor. Like anyone at Rutgers will even notice.
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Jan 7, 2020 20:31
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People said the Panthers didn't gain an advantage by firing Rivera early because they didn't do interviews during those weeks, but Tepper interviewed every coach he went after 1st before any other team: - McCarthy - Bieniemy - Rhule - McDaniels (was scheduled 1st) Maybe he could have done that still with Rivera fired at end of season, but either way, he got the jump on the process he wanted.
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Jan 7, 2020 20:31
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Diva Cupcake posted:The Giants pulled a Jets in almost the exact manner. hahahahahaha. Who wants to bet Bill would never recommend anyone actually good enough for him to keep. Probably dropped that name because he wanted to replace Judge anyways
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Jan 7, 2020 20:32
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Diva Cupcake posted:The Giants pulled a Jets in almost the exact manner. Bill is getting all his boys cushy landing spots as the Pats implode.
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Jan 7, 2020 20:33
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"You guys should interview my dog, Chester, he loves playing catch. Barring that Joe Judge is a solid runner-up."
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Jan 7, 2020 20:35
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Diva Cupcake posted:The Giants pulled a Jets in almost the exact manner. I'm sure Belichick has nothing but the Giants' best interests at heart. That is just the type of guy he is.
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Jan 7, 2020 20:46
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FizFashizzle posted:Not the Browns, Bengals, Chargers, etc. No no moving to LA means we have money now Right guys
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Jan 7, 2020 20:48
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Play posted:I was never trying to say he was a bad pick in a vacuum or will be a bad player, I said he was picked too early and before more deserving players and may not fit what the Patriots are trying to do on offense. They needed more top end speed imo, Metcalf, Marquise or AJ Brown, Deebo Samuel, etc. all would've been better picks. Hell they very likely could've gotten Harry with a 2nd or 3rd round pick as he was generally rated as the 6th to 10th best WR in that draft, instead they went first rounder. They appear to think Phillip Dorsett is good and can be made into a useful weapon, despite all evidence to the contrary. He theoretically has great top end speed. But he also sucks, which is a problem. I still think Harry has a chance to develop into a very good receiver. He flashed some impressive catches in between a bunch of drops and miscommunications with Brady. Need to see what he can do after (hopefully) a full, healthy offseason. Though if McDaniels and/or Brady do leave, that throws a big wrench into his development obviously.
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Jan 7, 2020 20:49
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sweet geek swag posted:Bill is getting all his boys cushy landing spots as the Pats implode. rumor has been for a few years belichick specifically wants to coach for a few years after brady to prove their success was his doing, not brady's. there's basically nothing he would like more than to ship brady off to some has-been for a draft pick and then win the super bowl with [insert QB here]. brady specifically structured his contract to make sure that bill couldn't trade him. Docjowles posted:They appear to think Phillip Dorsett is good and can be made into a useful weapon, despite all evidence to the contrary. He theoretically has great top end speed. But he also sucks, which is a problem. Not sure that's the case. Receivers frequently fail on the Patriots because Brady expects them to do exactly what he wants them to do at all times and be exactly where he expects them to be and if they don't he's done with them. If Brady leaves and they've got a new QB learning the ropes, I think he'd have an easier time developing.
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Jan 7, 2020 20:51
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Play posted:hahahahahaha. Who wants to bet Bill would never recommend anyone actually good enough for him to keep. Probably dropped that name because he wanted to replace Judge anyways That's how this reads to me, too. "Yeah, he's great, take him off my hands! PLEASE!" Like, why is the one team that consistently beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl looking for ex-Patriot coaches? And why the hell are they asking Bill Belichick about what HE thinks about the coach they should hire?! This poo poo is stupid.
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Jan 7, 2020 20:53
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evilweasel posted:Not sure that's the case. Receivers frequently fail on the Patriots because Brady expects them to do exactly what he wants them to do at all times and be exactly where he expects them to be and if they don't he's done with them. If Brady leaves and they've got a new QB learning the ropes, I think he'd have an easier time developing. Yeah, I know. I meant more that he would have to start over. But it could still be a net win I guess if he was going to be one of the many guys who just never clicked in McDaniels/Brady's system.
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Jan 7, 2020 20:55
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evilweasel posted:Not sure that's the case. Receivers frequently fail on the Patriots because Brady expects them to do exactly what he wants them to do at all times and be exactly where he expects them to be and if they don't he's done with them. Yeah Dorsett got froze out at the end of this year after he made a bunch of mistakes in early December games.
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Jan 7, 2020 20:57
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spanky69 posted:He can just claim that his "dream job" opened with the Browns and have them buy out Rutgers like the Panthers did with Rhule/Baylor. Like anyone at Rutgers will even notice. they just committed a buttload of money to schiano after a fuckin disaster of a coaching search so they might notice
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three posted:People said the Panthers didn't gain an advantage by firing Rivera early because they didn't do interviews during those weeks, but Tepper interviewed every coach he went after 1st before any other team: To be fair, Tepper pulled Ron Rivera in and told him the team would be going in a different direction and Rivera told him he would rather just walk away at that point. It was beneficial for everyone.
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Jan 7, 2020 21:04
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Lol who's looking at the loving Patriots receivers like "ooohhhhh hot."
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Joe Judge is perfect to develop the talented Giant WR corps that doesnt exist
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Dre2Dee2 posted:Joe Judge is perfect to develop the talented Giant WR corps that doesnt exist The Giants' WRs actually seem fine? Their skill players aren't the problem.
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Jan 7, 2020 21:31
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How do you look at the panthers and think, we want to be like that! Irsay should have sold Frank to carolina for 400 million bucks.
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Jan 7, 2020 21:36
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Eifert Posting posted:Lol who's looking at the loving Patriots receivers like "ooohhhhh hot." was judge actually coaching the receiver group this year, or was that a paper designation he asked Belichick for in order to get out of the special teams ghetto
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Jan 7, 2020 21:59
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Brady had Moss and Welker and he just never really moved on.
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spanky69 posted:He can just claim that his "dream job" opened with the Browns and have them buy out Rutgers like the Panthers did with Rhule/Baylor. Like anyone at Rutgers will even notice. A lot of poo poo went down to get Schiano back, if he bolts it will be a scandal.
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PupsOfWar posted:was judge actually coaching the receiver group this year, or was that a paper designation he asked Belichick for in order to get out of the special teams ghetto He did legit double duty as both ST and WR coach, cause O'Shea left to OC for Flores. https://www.espn.com/blog/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4817834/joe-judge-nfls-only-special-teams-wr-coach-locked-in-on-details
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Jan 7, 2020 22:29
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LabyaMynora posted:That's how this reads to me, too. "Yeah, he's great, take him off my hands! PLEASE!" Go watch the football life episode on Belichick where he walks through the old Giants offices tearing up at the memories. Guy made his bones with the team and still has a soft spot in his heart for the Giants and aparently a decent relationship with Mara Jr, despite mostly dealing with Wellington back in the day. If Bill Parcels makes up his mind away to retire after the 1990 season, the BB would of been the Giants coach instead of Ray Handley.
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https://twitter.com/RVacchianoSNY/status/1214650802314391557 I had just talked myself into it too.
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Jan 7, 2020 22:31
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SunshineDanceParty posted:Brady had Moss and Welker and he just never really moved on. edelman is basically exactly what Brady is looking for, and is why he's so good on the patriots and basically no other team is all that interested in him moss was more of a gronk-type where it just didn't fuckin matter you throw it to where he is and he gets the ball, as opposed to needing to throw it very precisely to get the ball through a very tight window
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Jan 7, 2020 22:33
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evilweasel posted:edelman is basically exactly what Brady is looking for, and is why he's so good on the patriots and basically no other team is all that interested in him Brady was also weirdly good with Brandon LaFell in 2014, of all people.  I also remember someone did some analysis and realized that Tom Brady's deep ball efficiency spiked when the Patriots got him...Chris Hogan? Amendola was also great with Brady except his bones are made of crushed pretzel sticks so you never knew if he'd ever actually be around or not.
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^^^ Three different Brandons! Brady's had a bunch of 1 year wonders over the last decade, from Brandon Cooks, Lloyd and LaFell to Martellus Bennett, to Josh Gordon on top of all the white boys LaFell put up a 75 / 950 / 7 statline one year. That was wild.
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Jan 7, 2020 22:47
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Chris' Hogans success was almost all that first year when he still had his speed and the Patriots played a series of teams with dumbass safeties who bit hard on play action - I'm looking at you Steelers. Shoulda kept Brandon Cooks and Amendola.
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evilweasel posted:edelman is basically exactly what Brady is looking for, and is why he's so good on the patriots and basically no other team is all that interested in him SunshineDanceParty fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Jan 7, 2020 |
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