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facialimpediment posted:There was a major problem in Ukraine, where the good-guy Ukranians kept getting killed by near pinpoint artillery strikes from bad-guy "Ukranians" and Russians. It was more or less proven that the bad guys had the ability to locate the good guys based on their smartphone pings off the network. Oh this story is even better. Some Ukranian officer developed an android app that did a whole bunch of artillery math, which stored the precise coordinates of the firing location. Of course the core app was backdoored by GRU software. So ukranian artillery groups thought they were being counterbatteried when really waiting for them to fire was just to obfuscate the SIGINT on the exact locations of the artillery pieces themselves.
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CommieGIR posted:Yes, hence why I said its not corroborated, but its also not entirely out of the question that Trump might have acted to make them worse, and we have done it before. Oh no doubt, I def think we had a hand in making things worse, just that some local actors might overblow it for their own benefit. Sorry if I came across poorly, I was just adding what little I had seen discussed about it.
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Imagine it's month 3 of generally heightened tensions, sittin in Kuwait, and your resentment is exploding at being the one guy in the squad who didn't smuggle in a phone. Just kidding, that guy will have just bought one at the PX or via Amazon or something by then.
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mlmp08 posted:Imagine it's month 3 of generally heightened tensions, sittin in Kuwait, and your resentment is exploding at being the one guy in the squad who didn't smuggle in a phone. I was gonna say, Arifjan basically has a Best Buy, Buehring's PX has them, and there is local internet and sim cards for sale by local vendors. Maybe if they re-open Camp Virginia and sequester them there, but that's a stretch. And there will still be a black market going on.
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Iraq: You sent an official letter notifying us of troop withdrawal, and a tweet or press conference where you say "oopsie" isn't an official retraction. https://twitter.com/Slate/status/1214619990919389187
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Stultus Maximus posted:Iraq: You sent an official letter notifying us of troop withdrawal, and a tweet or press conference where you say "oopsie" isn't an official retraction. Too bad the President believes in policy via Tweet.
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SimonCat posted:Too bad the President believes in policy via Tweet.
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I wish we were going to have future generations who could marvel over all this but they'll be too busy looking for canned goods that survived the Water Wars
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Looking forward to explaining the TwitZimmerman letter to kids in history class.
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WaPo just can't help itself https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonNYC/status/1214488071711932422?s=19 Proud Christian Mom fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Jan 7, 2020 |
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The US is a cargo colt aping at colonialism but only understanding the violence part
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At least make some good cocktails out of it.
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Proud Christian Mom posted:The NYT just can't help itself The conservative memes were right all along, Liberalism IS a mental disease
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Proud Christian Mom posted:The NYT just can't help itself When did WaPo become NYT?
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:When did WaPo become NYT? Sorry, I lose track of which imperialism mouthpiece is which
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:When did WaPo become NYT? All newspaper editorial/opinion sections should be fired out of a cannon into the sun, while simultaneously being lit on fire just to be sure. They're counter-productive, readers can't distinguish them from actual news in the same paper, and they're hopelessly conflicted. Fire all opinion writers, hire more reporters.
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facialimpediment posted:All newspaper editorial/opinion sections should be fired out of a cannon into the sun, while simultaneously being lit on fire just to be sure. OTOH, people don't want facts anymore, they want opinions that line up with their own already held opinions/expectations, and newspapers are dying and need the revenue 
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 Saw this one today. Reminder we all live in a corporate hellscape: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/06/jim-cramer-investment-playbook-for-increasing-us-iran-tensions.html Jim Cramer posted:Wars tend to create buying opportunities and cash lets you take advantage of them
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This only makes sense if airplane mode doesn't exist. Nevermind that nobody has an intl plan, or that E1 fuckface is probably gonna have a local phone in a week.
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Airplane mode still lets you have WiFi and Bluetooth on. Modern phones periodically use both of those radios if they’re not explicitly disabled and I’d imagine that’s incredibly useful SIGINT.
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Being a tax cheat is a big part of Greek culture so I can see why that would appeal to him.
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Phones will be impossible to keep control of until they directly cause hundreds of deaths, and then it will flip around and become illegal to be within 100 feet of a cell phone when you are on liberty
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Casimir Radon posted:Being a tax cheat is a big part of Greek culture so I can see why that would appeal to him. 
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hobbesmaster posted:Airplane mode still lets you have WiFi and Bluetooth on. Modern phones periodically use both of those radios if they’re not explicitly disabled and I’d imagine that’s incredibly useful SIGINT. My experience with this is standing next to sniffer teams with bt on and them none the wiser so you can understand my DOUBT.
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Because the military loving sucks runny poo poo and having a phone around solidifies that poo poo somewhat
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Why the gently caress would it even matter on base anyway?
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It helps establish movement patterns (hmm, all these signals cluster in this one building when the sun goes down...must be the barracks!)
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What was that fitness tracking app that gps tracked troops running around bases in Iraq and Afghanistan, and probably everywhere else? Lol.
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Strava. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/28/fitness-tracking-app-gives-away-location-of-secret-us-army-bases
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The trick of the trade is lateral movement, so if you get into a device and are able to work your way out onto for example an on-base wifi-network... and the Iranians are pretty good at it. Cyber stuff is prime assymetrical warfare. Imagine being able to listen in on the mic in the breast pocket of some dipshit at a briefing.
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Icon Of Sin posted:Strava. Yeah. Lol. That was loving terrible and hilarious, like on a Reality Winner scale. If we didn't learn from that, you can pretty much assure we're just not going to learn the lesson.
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Dwanyelle posted:It helps establish movement patterns (hmm, all these signals cluster in this one building when the sun goes down...must be the barracks!) It's also probably the building with BARRACKS on it. I think you guys are going about this the hard way. "Oh no what if they piggyback on my iPod into the base wifi and do stuff" as opposed to just paying off/threatening whoever owns the local lines for access probably even including physically access.
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Sure they might do that too! But you don't know. Troop movement has always been considered sensitive information, if not classified.
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Dwanyelle posted:Sure they might do that too! But you don't know. Troop movement has always been considered sensitive information, if not classified. I’m having a movement right now.
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I'm unclear how exactly phones will gently caress us, all I know is it will happen if we go to actual war against a real country ever again. So, we'll find out in a few weeks.
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Information security and real cyberwar is a black magic minefield and the only way to win is to not expose yourself to attack vectors. A cellphone in airplane mode might not be a threat on its own but it'll be death by a thousand papercuts if everybody has phones on deployment. Phones are only secure if you go in and rip out the antennas.
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