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Patrick Spens posted:I can usually parse most hot takes, but this...are they complaining she's not equally upset about the animal cost of war? honestly I have no loving idea
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Patrick Spens posted:I can usually parse most hot takes, but this...are they complaining she's not equally upset about the animal cost of war? Liz Bruenig gets a lot of flak for being a leftist that's also pro-life
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gradenko_2000 posted:Liz Bruenig gets a lot of flak for being a leftist that's also pro-life Is she pro-life.only for her own body (for lack of a better term) or does she think abortion should be banned?
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cool dance moves posted:Is she pro-life.only for her own body (for lack of a better term) or does she think abortion should be banned? It's my understanding that she's pro-life in the sense that she personally would never have an abortion, but she doesn't project that onto her politics. I suppose that that's not good enough for some people, hence those kinds of replies to her.
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Ah ok. I think I get thr hot take now. The person replying to bruenig thinks caring about himan life is not The Right Reasin to oppose war with iran. Dunning what they think is the proper reason. So it's sort of like a fedora atheist walking up to a religious group doing charity work and lecturing them that god doesnt exist
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Brazil has better politics than its director, which isn't unusual.gradenko_2000 posted:It's my understanding that she's pro-life in the sense that she personally would never have an abortion, but she doesn't project that onto her politics. Bruenig is more weirdly Catholic than that, there's a reason she's frequently in this very thread e.g. "ideally the drinking age should be 25, military service should still be 18"
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I think this dude means well despite having a number of lovely takes but good lord this is like a caricature of PMC liberal activist-y rhetoric https://twitter.com/samswey/status/1214732962001911808 https://twitter.com/samswey/status/1214734784934498304 https://twitter.com/samswey/status/1214740128444354561
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Mr. Lobe posted:that's what he is left to fall back on in the absence of a materialist analysis relatedly, this was his rationale for supporting Warren over Bernie https://twitter.com/samswey/status/1178801118002008064 sometimes us leftists overuse "PMC" as a pejorative, but I dunno what else to call this, there is no way anyone who isn't incredibly deep in a thought bubble of PMC nonprofit liberalism would think this isn't completely laughable as a theory of change
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Is "PMC" a reference to "politico-media complex"? That's the only thing I found that makes sense
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FFT posted:Is "PMC" a reference to "politico-media complex"? That's the only thing I found that makes sense Professional / Managerial Class
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Makes more sense than private military contractor, though I appreciate that I'm not sure I've ever heard a term that's apparently overused. I was getting very confused by this
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Jose posted:I was getting very confused by this This is the second time I've seen the acronym used this way, AND the second time the discussion was more about how overused and ineffective the term was than anything else.
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Tulip posted:there's a reason she's frequently in this very thread and there's a reason why 99% of the time the reply to those posts is "the hot takes are coming from inside the thread"
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gradenko_2000 posted:Professional / Managerial Class I understand where this comes from, but every single member of the professional half of that is staged to become regular rear end working class and it pisses me off that they don't realize it. Hiring and firing power will always be petits, but "programmer" is gonna be the same as "clerk" real soon now
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The whole point is to make them feel separate from the lower tier of workers, and the myth of meritocracy tells them to just work harder if their industry starts getting squeezed.
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ikanreed posted:I understand where this comes from, but every single member of the professional half of that is staged to become regular rear end working class and it pisses me off that they don't realize it. Well yeah the professional class is basically a construct of the capitalists to create a small group of people who are just barely paid highly enough to end up throwing in their political lot in with the rich in order to legitimate oligarchical rule in what are ostensibly democratic republics, when the reality is that as long as you're a wage worker, you're still a worker, even if you're well paid at the moment
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YaketySass posted:Warren has got the sapiosexual demographic on lockdown.
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ikanreed posted:I understand where this comes from, but every single member of the professional half of that is staged to become regular rear end working class and it pisses me off that they don't realize it. Agreed. Imo pmcs at this point aren't a category of professions as much as a layer of people ready to act as the mediating force between the two warring sides of the class conflict. So it depends on the existence of those two sides for its own existence, but also if you are in a pmc profession and not willing to play ball, you end up in the dustbin of capitalism.
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Just say "white collar workers" that's what you mean anyway Rolling up everyone that works in an office into the "boss" class is dumb as hell
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i've only ever heard it used in the context of lanyards and silicon valley ivory tower types who think that everyone who doesn't go to their networking mixers is basically cattle, not as an actual description of a line of work
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hahaha holy poo poo gotta love using intersectionality to create a hierarchy so I can tell non-white people to gently caress off
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:i've only ever heard it used in the context of lanyards and silicon valley ivory tower types who think that everyone who doesn't go to their networking mixers is basically cattle, not as an actual description of a line of work Probably the best way to define the term in a useful way (though this is overly verbose for common usage, thus the popularity of "PMC") is to define it as "the set of jobs that are both very well compensated and involve being surrounded by people from similar socioeconomic backgrounds." So jobs that tend to be populated by people who followed educational/professional pipelines that result in them spending their lives surrounded by people from similar backgrounds and isolated from less well-off working class people. So you end up with not only the material privilege being an important factor, but also people attaching a very high value to credentials and adopting cultural norms that are probably more similar to those of the wealthy than those of the rest of the working class (honestly that latter thing might be the most important).
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Minecraft Holmes posted:Just say "white collar workers" that's what you mean anyway The distinction matters because of the specific forms of false consciousness that make them willing slaves of capital. If they refuse to see the truth, they can hang with the bosses.
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