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unironically yes as it is killing and inflicting misery on the poor (as intended)
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I think people forget what kind of country the U.K. really is - the vast majority of the population would vote to make it legal to hang benefits cheats
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is "benefits cheats" just a thing that's made up like "welfarr queen"
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gradenko_2000 posted:is "benefits cheats" just a thing that's made up like "welfarr queen" yes
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Imagine The Office of the Prime Minister is four PMs on the edge of a cliff. Say a direct copy of the PM nearest the cliff is sent to the back of the line of PMs and takes the place of the first PM. The formerly first PM becomes the second, the second becomes the third, and the fourth falls off the cliff. Brexit works the same way.
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it's almost the exact same thing really. though here in the US I think there's more of a racial component than a class one but the whole thought process behind it is basically the same ie we live in a real life lucky ducky comic
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me hard earnd Boris dollars, they been nicked! by benefits cheats!
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gradenko_2000 posted:is "benefits cheats" just a thing that's made up like "welfarr queen" As someone whose job involves having to know about the british welfare system (or what's left of it), it's a very minor problem that gets blown up to massive proportions by Conservatives looking for an excuse to gently caress with people in need. In the years I've been doing my job I've only seen a single-digit number of cases and all but one was purely accidental, people being caught by benefit requirements that they're not told about beforehand, by anyone.
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good timing, i was about to ask about who Labour's membership would vote for next. it's still a fairly left-wing base, right?Dravs posted:He also went to Oxford, which seems like a prerequisite for becoming PM now, apparently.
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get that OUT of my face posted:good timing, i was about to ask about who Labour's membership would vote for next. it's still a fairly left-wing base, right? yeah, you can see how none of the candidates are actually positioning themselves as electable centrists or some bullshit
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gradenko_2000 posted:is "benefits cheats" just a thing that's made up like "welfarr queen" The latest innovation to 'catch' benefit cheats in Australia is to look at people who don't have a steady income, take the week they report the highest income, assume they made that much money every week, then initiate debt recovery using the artificially inflated figure. It is then up to the recipient to prove they don't owe them money, despite social services having tax office and income reporting data to make an accurate assessment.
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BurningCourage posted:As someone whose job involves having to know about the british welfare system (or what's left of it), it's a very minor problem that gets blown up to massive proportions by Conservatives looking for an excuse to gently caress with people in need. In the years I've been doing my job I've only seen a single-digit number of cases and all but one was purely accidental, people being caught by benefit requirements that they're not told about beforehand, by anyone.
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If Conservatives are worried about fraud with public money, they need to stay the gently caress away from privatizing health care services. I’m in the Netherlands and it’s an absolute shitshow here.
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Refried Noodle posted:If Conservatives are worried about fraud with public money, they need to stay the gently caress away from privatizing health care services. I’m in the Netherlands and it’s an absolute shitshow here.
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I think the tories would be the ones getting excited for the fraud opportunities tbh.
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Pistol_Pete posted:Starmer doesn't seem that bad, considering. He's from an actual working class background (unlike Jess Philips) and doesn't continually shout about it (also unlike Jess Philips). He's worked with the leadership instead of flouncing off to give briefings to the hostile media, he has a reputation for competence and he doesn't seem to have any enemies, or at least he's always refrained from publically attacking colleagues, which is rare in this day and age. I don't think he's some Sensible Centrist who'll rip off his mask as soon as he's elected and shout: "Haha! Now for tepid triangulation for ever and ever!" an easy tell for his true colors will be to see how the blairites react to him if they just let him through then that's a massive red flag
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I just checked and only three prime ministers in history went to universities other than oxford or cambridge lol
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Nonsense posted:Boris must plunge into war with us, you with us, us Trump is Mr. Brexit after all
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V. Illych L. posted:yeah, you can see how none of the candidates are actually positioning themselves as electable centrists or some bullshit Only because Yvette Cooper hasn't announced yet
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gradenko_2000 posted:is "benefits cheats" just a thing that's made up like "welfarr queen" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INGP8AlnXHU
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Shame the people voted for pain
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Goa Tse-tung posted:
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Avirosb posted:Without looking, I'm willing to bet antisemitism was brought up at least once no it's mostly just people assuming that middle-eastern sounding name = terrorist so i guess antisemitism IS being brought up but not in the way you thought???
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Yinlock posted:an easy tell for his true colors will be to see how the blairites react to him Yeah, I've subsequently been a bit put off by the fact that he's clearly the candidate that the Guardian, BBC and Establishment generally wants to see installed as leader. Also, his response to the Suleimani assassination was exactly the type of 'both sides' poo poo that I loathe.
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marktheando posted:I just checked and only three prime ministers in history went to universities other than oxford or cambridge lol extreme bae PM John Major didn't even go to uni killed Thatcher, crashed the £ out of the ERM, found all of Britain's missing cones, the man doesn't get enough recognition
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Often Abbreviated posted:extreme bae PM John Major didn't even go to uni He was also instrumental in the NI peace process. Blair and Billy Clinton get most of the credit these days, but the initial peace talks between the Brits and the IRA that laid the foundation for the Good Friday Agreement took place on Major's watch.
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Harry and meghan are stepping down as royals to 'work and become financially independent' lol
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Often Abbreviated posted:extreme bae PM John Major didn't even go to uni Best Tory since Disraeli?
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oliwan posted:Harry and meghan are stepping down as royals to 'work and become financially independent' lol two more benefits cheats off the dole
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might it be related to harry's war against the tabloids? they're much more secure now than they've been since blair with one of their own as PM, after all
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V. Illych L. posted:might it be related to harry's war against the tabloids? they're much more secure now than they've been since blair with one of their own as PM, after all nope, it's because his brother, like his dad, is a cheating oval office
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:nope, it's because his brother, like his dad, is a cheating oval office No mean feat for a balding 30-something ginger with a beard made of pubes and a soon-to-be-gammon complexion.
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BMX Ninja posted:No mean feat for a balding 30-something ginger with a beard made of pubes and a soon-to-be-gammon complexion. well his "dad" then
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