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Frijolero posted:If you don't love Iran, you can gently caress off. Nah. Theocracies are trash and if Iran, Israel and the UAE all cast off from the mortal coil during this war, it will be a net-win for humanity. Capped off by the rise of the Socialist States of America lead by Bernie Sanders in 2021.
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I love these sorts of international YouTube comment sections that are just people talking about how they feel lied to by media depictions of foreign states
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Jan 9, 2020 00:20
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:I guess that's possible. But probably just incompetence somewhere along the line. Could even have been the Iranian equivalent of the dumbass grunt doing some dumb poo poo. Not sure why people are trying so hard to make excuses for a non-socialist theocracy though. no ones making excuses or glorifying iran, there’s literally no evidence that the plane was shot down, and the theories that it was shot down by iran are solely fueled by lib posters like yourself and a combination of american exceptionalism and islamophobia. oh, and the bellingcat-esque analysis of an unsourced unverified video of a plane falling out of the sky.
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Jan 9, 2020 00:25
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Jan 9, 2020 00:25
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:Nah. Theocracies are trash and if Iran, Israel and the UAE all cast off from the mortal coil during this war, it will be a net-win for humanity. and yet you live in a theocracy...??
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Jan 9, 2020 00:26
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:Nah. Theocracies are trash and if Iran, Israel and the UAE all cast off from the mortal coil during this war, it will be a net-win for humanity. The Edgy Atheist has logged on. For real though, shut the gently caress up.
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Jan 9, 2020 00:29
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Taintrunner posted:
lmao what does he think he's contributing. at least with mh17 there was some mystery as to which side of the border the missile came from. all thats need is for someone on the ground with the blackboxes to say "yeah it was a missile/no it actually was the engine"
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Jan 9, 2020 00:31
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Azathoth posted:they genuinely overplayed their hand. GWB invaded Iraq with: -9/11 blamed on the entire Arab world -Fabricated Iraqi nuclear program -Compliant media able to repeat the above two lies unchallenged; online new media was nascent and some of it was fooled by what was on TV -A smaller country -A military weakened by sanctions and a lost war in the 80's -A dissident left at its weakest point in the history of American socialism Trump would invade Iran with: -No 9/11 equivalent -If there's an Iranian nuclear program, it's his own loving fault for scrapping Obama's deal -Bad articles about foreign policy get debunked online within minutes of publication, often getting more engagement than the lies themselves -A country twice as large -A strong military, in fact the same one that kicked Iraq's rear end in the 80's -The socialist left opposition will probably have the Presidency within a year -BONUS: Trump's base has a Nazi element that thinks this is really about Israel, which is about 20% true, and they are prepared to abandon him over this
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Jan 9, 2020 00:31
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Frijolero posted:Literally doesn't matter and nobody cares. If a national hero (lol at one of those existing in US government in my lifetime) from my country was assassinated I would be pissed if the response was as transparently fake as wrestling. Is Iran different or do they not really care that much about this guy, I just got the impression from all the pictures of the giant rear end funeral people actually cared about his guy and expected a response that wasn't just PR. I admit I have zero idea what is going on right now, maybe the Iranian public is happy pretending to have got revenge and staying out of war.
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Jan 9, 2020 00:33
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JesusIsTehCool posted:If a national hero (lol at one of those existing in US government in my lifetime) from my country was assassinated I would be pissed if the response was as transparently fake as wrestling. Is Iran different or do they not really care that much about this guy, I just got the impression from all the pictures of the giant rear end funeral people actually cared about his guy and expected a response that wasn't just PR. I admit I have zero idea what is going on right now, maybe the Iranian public is happy pretending to have got revenge and staying out of war. this is all assuming the iranian public believes the western media over iranian media. also that western media isn’t lying about the casualties.
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Jan 9, 2020 00:35
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JesusIsTehCool posted:If a national hero (lol at one of those existing in US government in my lifetime) from my country was assassinated I would be pissed if the response was as transparently fake as wrestling. Is Iran different or do they not really care that much about this guy, I just got the impression from all the pictures of the giant rear end funeral people actually cared about his guy and expected a response that wasn't just PR. I admit I have zero idea what is going on right now, maybe the Iranian public is happy pretending to have got revenge and staying out of war. i feel like people keep saying "they released a bunch of bogus reports as part of their attack yesterday" but people keep posting like they dont get it
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Jan 9, 2020 00:40
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uninterrupted posted:this is all assuming the iranian public believes the western media over iranian media. also that western media isn’t lying about the casualties. That is true, but I haven't heard any reports about the US covering up troop casualties yet. My original post was wondering what Iranians actually believe. Does anyone know if this is actually being believed in Iran?
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Jan 9, 2020 00:41
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JesusIsTehCool posted:If a national hero (lol at one of those existing in US government in my lifetime) from my country was assassinated I would be pissed if the response was as transparently fake as wrestling. Is Iran different or do they not really care that much about this guy, I just got the impression from all the pictures of the giant rear end funeral people actually cared about his guy and expected a response that wasn't just PR. I admit I have zero idea what is going on right now, maybe the Iranian public is happy pretending to have got revenge and staying out of war. The iranian public is prob happy they could come out as the bigger person and avoid war over this bullshit
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Jan 9, 2020 00:41
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Iranians are too busy vibin' to worry about all this 4th dimensional theorycrafting.
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Jan 9, 2020 00:45
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given how they struck only equipment hangers i wonder if at least part of the attack was iran going "you ain't the only fuckers on the block with precision bombs"
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Jan 9, 2020 00:46
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If I was Iranian, I'd be munching on some delicious pistachios, thinking about how cool it was that my country got Trump to stfu
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Jan 9, 2020 00:47
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uninterrupted posted:this is all assuming the iranian public believes the western media over iranian media. also that western media isn’t lying about the casualties. the Iranian government has also been taking a pretty consistent line that the real payback for his death will be when American troops leave Iraq, which ... well, I don't think I'd bet money that they'll be there indefinitely anymore, which I would have bet the farm on being true the day before the assassination. like, even just watching western media, it's pretty clear that Iran's response has been both well thought out and extremely effective. can't imagine that it looks any worse from within Iran
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Jan 9, 2020 00:52
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Iranian media has been rather clear the true revenge is US withdrawal from the region. If US troops get booted from Iraq they'll run "even in death Soleimani defeats the US" :iranflag:
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Jan 9, 2020 00:55
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Iran has played this well. They both put pressure on the US without giving the US any justification for further conflict. Granted Trump can just go gently caress it but you can’t really plan around insanity
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Jan 9, 2020 00:55
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Frijolero posted:If I was Iranian, I'd be munching on some delicious pistachios, thinking about how cool it was that my country got Trump to stfu
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Jan 9, 2020 01:01
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Iran's response and Trump being a total rear end to all our allies has also left the US isolated on this. Europe is seething about another war breaking near their borders and getting overwhelmed with refugees again.
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Jan 9, 2020 01:08
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excuse me why the gently caress would Iran shoot it down gently caress this world sucks rear end edit: to be clear I mean as why would we accuse them of doing that not that I think they did it
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Jan 9, 2020 01:17
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Lightning Knight posted:excuse me why the gently caress would Iran shoot it down haven't you heard? they;re the bad guys
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Jan 9, 2020 01:30
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Over Easy posted:Mods and admins need to perma bm and recommend that SA extradite him to be tried in the hague for his part in fomenting terror in syria.
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Jan 9, 2020 01:30
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Lightning Knight posted:excuse me why the gently caress would Iran shoot it down Misidentification exacerbated by extremely on-edge AA crews. It's happened before, e.g. MH17, the Vincennes incident, and (allegedly) the Ustica massacre
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Jan 9, 2020 01:37
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uninterrupted posted:no ones making excuses or glorifying iran, there’s literally no evidence that the plane was shot down, and the theories that it was shot down by iran are solely fueled by lib posters like yourself and a combination of american exceptionalism and islamophobia. An new-ish airplane of one the most reliable models, operated by an airline with a perfect safety record, flown by an experienced crew just blew up mid-air in a way that never happened before, just coincidentally on a night when all of Iran would be on Defcon-2 or whatever. Somebody deliberately bombed a Ukrainian airliner full of Iranians and didn't claim responsibility A SAM operator misidentified the aircraft, pushed the wrong button, or there was a computer or other technical issue. At a time when anti-air defenses would be at highest alert ever for possible retaliation. Something that's literally happened dozens of times to militaries around the world, including very white and christian ones. Aliens did it
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Jan 9, 2020 01:46
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saying it’s one possibility is kind of just pretending your post is the first one anyone saw which is bold I will give you that
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Jan 9, 2020 01:49
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Why isn't the US screaming about Iran shooting down the plane though? That's the weird part. Every single previous incident the US has blamed Iran no matter the facts, yet this time nothing?
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Jan 9, 2020 01:51
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mobby_6kl posted:You, you are doing it. What the gently caress do american exceptionalism and islamophobia have to do with anything? It's simply one possibility at the moment. Nobody's saying this is definitely what happened, or accusing Iran of malicious intent, of course there isn't any evidence either way but here are some options: Cool that we have airplane experts itt to tell us from not at all spurious internet posts they read how planes explode
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""Deadly crash of a Boeing jet in Iran adds to company's woes" posted:“I think everyone will quickly realize that there is very little chance, if any, that this has anything to do with the design or manufacture of the jet,” said Richard Aboulafia, an aviation analyst with Teal Group in the Washington, D.C., suburbs. “But people are going to see ‘737 Destroyed.’ How do you quantify that in terms of reputational damage?” Clearly a form of hybrid warfare. Boing hire me.
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Jan 9, 2020 01:53
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You think they called it Boeing because that's the sound its planes make when they hit the ground? Boeing boeing boeiiing!
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Jan 9, 2020 02:07
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Raskolnikov38 posted:given how they struck only equipment hangers i wonder if at least part of the attack was iran going "you ain't the only fuckers on the block with precision bombs"
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Jan 9, 2020 02:13
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lol you know how Wikipedia has pages for historical battles with list of forces involved and casualties - the page for this is going to be pretty funny
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Jan 9, 2020 02:15
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shrike82 posted:lol you know how Wikipedia has pages for historical battles with list of forces involved and casualties - the page for this is going to be pretty funny It's gonna be a flaming toxic dump for 100 years op
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Jan 9, 2020 02:17
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mobby_6kl posted:You, you are doing it. What the gently caress do american exceptionalism and islamophobia have to do with anything? It's simply one possibility at the moment. Nobody's saying this is definitely what happened, or accusing Iran of malicious intent, of course there isn't any evidence either way but here are some options: Russians Did It
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Jan 9, 2020 02:23
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truly confused at the idea expressed itt that the CIA would permit a socialist US presidency
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Sharkie posted:What's the image? I've heard this a lot but nobody's posted the image here afaik 
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Little late to the Brown Moses hate, but the most vile thing about him by far is how he tries to cover his rear end by "both sides"ing conflicts and investigating the war crimes of the United States and its allies. Like when he said there was gonna be a bombshell report about the US bombing that mosque in Syria which went over in the media like a silent fart. Or when he covered his rear end on Yemen by saying he was part of an international organization trying to investigate US and Gulf coalition warcrimes, which has had about as much media penetration as a tiny gorilla dick trying to gently caress a volcano. Fast forward to January 8, 2020 and Trump is saying to a national audience that Iran has made Yemen "a Hell on Earth." At no point does he ever put 2 and 2 together and face up to the fact that his only utility is creating justifications for western interventions, which he further covers up by creating an impression of Bellingcat's integrity through both sidesing conflicts. His operation is fueled by imperialist blood money, and he's training up an entire generation of western journalists to do the same exact kind of "remote investigations" he made his bank on. He's one of the most vile and corrosive influences on the western mediascape, and the fact he hasn't been perma'd yet is an indictment of the forums.
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gh0stpinballa posted:truly confused at the idea expressed itt that the CIA would permit a socialist US presidency which is why the stack of people in line for the presidency must go Bernie --> Militant as it goes down the line
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Little late to the Brown Moses hate, but the most vile thing about him by far is how he tries to cover his rear end by "both sides"ing conflicts and investigating the war crimes of the United States and its allies. Like when he said there was gonna be a bombshell report about the US bombing that mosque in Syria which went over in the media like a silent fart. Or when he covered his rear end on Yemen by saying he was part of an international organization trying to investigate US and Gulf coalition warcrimes, which has had about as much media penetration as a tiny gorilla dick trying to gently caress a volcano. Fast forward to January 8, 2020 and Trump is saying to a national audience that Iran has made Yemen "a Hell on Earth." iirc he said belingcat "didn't have the resources" to "train journalists" to look into yemen when adam johnson asked him about it a couple years back
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