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Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

That's stockholm syndrome you natural disaster teru teru bozu.

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goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

KOGAHAZAN!! posted:

Cussler was my introduction to the concept of gear porn, and even as an idiot 12 year old I thought it was gross and boring.

Which was a shame, because the plot was this B movie, conspiracy theory thing about obsidian skulls and a lost civilisation in Antartica, and that's the sort of dumb nonsense I could have really enjoyed if not for the grotesque milwank bits.

How did these techno-thrillers end up being the default genre of books sold in airports, anyway? There's Clancy, and this guy, and I remember Colin Forbes showing up on those shelves.

Because they don't actually require a lot of thought or concentration to enjoy, which is perfect for brain chewing gum to keep you sane when waiting around at airports/on flights.

I went through a period of reading that kind of milwank in my teens (yeah I was one of the cool kids) and two of them do actually stick in my mind and I wouldn't mind rereading them to see if they still hold up, but I've no idea who wrote them or what they're called, maybe someone here might remember as so many people are coming out of the closet to admit to reading this poo poo?

- First one was a super-secret British sub somehow ended up in a Soviet port (or maybe run aground in Soviet waters?), and this guy had to sneak in and either disable it or sail it out, and I remember it was actually pretty tense even if it was completely ridiculous.

- Second one was a fairly blatant Red Storm Rising knockoff except this time World War III was happening in Antarctica because they'd discovered a shitload of oil there. The descriptions of American carriers getting merced by some special Soviet missile that split in two, one of which detonated on the flight deck and one under the keel, really stuck in my mind because it was one of the few books that actually admitted that maybe American technology wasn't completely superior and able to wipe out the Red Hordes with ease.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Tesseraction posted:

That's stockholm syndrome you natural disaster teru teru bozu.

ngl i really want to experience an earthquake about a 7 on the Richter scale

i am going to be starting work on monday friends. its not the job i want but it pays alright and hopefully the one i interviewed for on tuesday will offer me the role and i can quit after 2 weeks of getting paid

Tsietisin
Jul 2, 2004

Time passes quickly on the weekend.

Tesseraction posted:

why are our presenters so loving horny for a nuclear holocaust

I wanna gently caress a mushroom cloud for the ultimate orgasm.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
"the green alliance" what is wrong with just using paper bags for stuff? surely carbon emissions is a tiny amount of plastic bags and its the fact they don't biodegrade that is the issue

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-51040155

jaete
Jun 21, 2009


Nap Ghost

Jose posted:

they're in the gbs thread about him i think since it got quoted before he could remove them even though they've been quoted a million times in cspam. there has been a lot of stupid drama on SA over the years but this is absolutely the stupidest

Hmm which GBS thread about it. Also they're not (at least I couldn't find them in several seconds of searching)

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Seems Clive Lewis's stance on Sindy2 has gotten at least one SNP onside https://twitter.com/TommySheppard/status/1215203941706805248

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem

Jose posted:

ngl i really want to experience an earthquake about a 7 on the Richter scale

i am going to be starting work on monday friends. its not the job i want but it pays alright and hopefully the one i interviewed for on tuesday will offer me the role and i can quit after 2 weeks of getting paid

gl bud

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

KOGAHAZAN!! posted:

Cussler was my introduction to the concept of gear porn, and even as an idiot 12 year old I thought it was gross and boring.

Which was a shame, because the plot was this B movie, conspiracy theory thing about obsidian skulls and a lost civilisation in Antartica, and that's the sort of dumb nonsense I could have really enjoyed if not for the grotesque milwank bits.

How did these techno-thrillers end up being the default genre of books sold in airports, anyway? There's Clancy, and this guy, and I remember Colin Forbes showing up on those shelves.

Gear porn - call me sexist but if a book has a few pages of lovingly described, detailed kit lists (weapons, computers, survival) I figure the intended audience is male. Ranulph Fiennes is a good example.
I do enjoy the books (gear porn) from an escapist perspective as they're great for holidays or stressful times but skip the gear lists. I also skip anything written in verse form and ludicrous sex scenes wittering on about arched backs and low moans.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Any book has one of these damned sex scenes I throw that mothafucka on the ground and pray to My Jesus for forgiveness.

Bacon Terrorist
May 7, 2010

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022
I read Clive Barker's Weaveworld as a kid and the sex scenes in that scarred my pre-pubescent mind.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

jaete posted:

Hmm which GBS thread about it. Also they're not (at least I couldn't find them in several seconds of searching)

most of them are gone now but the second post has what was by far the worst one of those i saw. i didn't realise he'd reuploaded them himself and just assumed they were the links already in cspam

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3909812

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

Jose posted:

"the green alliance" what is wrong with just using paper bags for stuff? surely carbon emissions is a tiny amount of plastic bags and its the fact they don't biodegrade that is the issue

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-51040155

Yeah I've seen that before and not fully understood it. Might it not be worth "spending" a bit of extra carbon on a paper bag, to avoid ending up with a plastic bag that never goes away ever?

And glass bottles being heavy is only as carbony as the transport method used - and taking them back to the shop to be refilled (as in Germany) seems better than either smashing them to pieces first, or again having plastic ones that are around forever in some form.

But as with all things, it's probably more complicated than that :smith:

Jippa
Feb 13, 2009

Bacon Terrorist posted:

I read Clive Barker's Weaveworld as a kid and the sex scenes in that scarred my pre-pubescent mind.

Clive barker/steven king/irvine welsh were the staples of my teenage reading. Great stuff.

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Bacon Terrorist posted:

I read Clive Barker's Weaveworld as a kid and the sex scenes in that scarred my pre-pubescent mind.

Same but Imajica. Actually, I'm rereading it now and it holds up :toot:

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

but skip the gear lists. I also skip anything written in verse form and ludicrous sex scenes wittering on about arched backs and low moans.
They clasped in exquisite embrace
As a sweat bead rolled on down her face
A .458 Win Mag
An MPAD, ten sandbags
Four daggers, two swords, and a mace

Doccykins
Feb 21, 2006

Jose posted:

wish they'd just turn it back on the interviewer "would you kill millions of people?"

https://twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1214966704767459331?s=20

if they did that the interviewer without skipping a beat would reply "WELL I'M NOT STANDING TO BE PRIME MINISTER AM I" :hurr:

oscarthewilde
May 16, 2012


I would often go there
To the tiny church there

Ratjaculation posted:

just checked, the raised bridge is a massive succe-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQssl0sM9As

oh

that van definitely isn’t penske material!

Debbie Does Dagon
Jul 8, 2005



Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

how the gently caress does this forums drama stuff keep happening when every goon's like 37+ years old

I used to bartend at a holiday park where the average age was about 65. Worked there for over ten years. My conclusion was that maturing with age is a complete myth, and most people are frozen at whatever emotional state of development they hit at 8-years-old

WaffleACAB
Oct 31, 2010

Bacon Terrorist posted:

I read Clive Barker's Weaveworld as a kid and the sex scenes in that scarred my pre-pubescent mind.

Did anyone else ever read the Pearl Saga books? I recall a lesbian* shower sex scene that made quite an impression on a 12yo me.

*Though one of the parties was an alien male prince who had been put into the body of a female native.

The trans -gender, -racial and -class textual themes didn't occur to me at the time but looking back it seems like that might have been one of the more Correct series of sci-fi?

Edit: Turns out the author ended up putting the series on hold because he started writing Bourne books. Boo!

WaffleACAB fucked around with this message at 13:05 on Jan 9, 2020

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


Dog Therapy: Shockingly Good

forkboy84 posted:

There are definitely segments that put me to sleep, the parts you can assume Clancy enjoyed writing the most, coz you can tell he got a rip-roaring hard on every time he lovingly describes so piece of military hardware. That was a man whose copies of Jane regularly had the pages stuck together. But the pew-pew-pew action just puts me in mind of some of the absolute dreck I watch on TV like NCIS and because it's so far outside of my own world I just find it amusingly dumb. I think part of it is that a lot of the time I read books that are quite dry histories so taking a break to gorge on absolutely shameless trash is a nice change of pace. There's also something about the Cold War which I really love as a background for fiction, especially poo poo written during the period, there's a whole lot of mythologising the big bad Soviet Bear that just tickles me.

I would never recommend someone read them though. If I'm going to recommend fiction I'm going to recommend poo poo that makes me sound cool & smart, like Crash. Because what's cooler & smarter than people getting off on car accidents I ask you?

Dale Brown is the thinking mans right-wing popcorn novels. He was doing constellations of battlefield satellites launched from a converted super-B52 bomber waaay before Musk.

quote:

Flight of the Old Dog is the story of a secret highly modified B-52 bomber flying into the Soviet Union on an impromptu strike mission.

The book begins with a B-52 crew during a military exercise in Idaho. Not long after, the Americans discover the existence of a Soviet ground-based laser in the Kamchatka Peninsula. Although Moscow insists that the system does not violate existing strategic accords such as the ABM Treaty, their frequent use of the laser in striking vital US assets challenges Washington's patience before the UN.

Meanwhile, Gen. Bradley Elliott, commander of the High Technology Aerospace Weapons Center (HAWC; also known as Dreamland), tests a unique B-52 bomber with the help of several young crewmembers. Called the EB-52 Megafortress (named Old Dog), the plane is being eyed as a new strategic escort for SAC forces. The technology tested in the plane is later adapted and fitted into two B-1 bombers that are sent to attack the Soviet laser after it destroys an American space defense satellite.

The B-1 mission is intercepted by the Soviets, but the aircraft are not shot down. At the same time, terrorists attack HAWC, forcing Elliott and the Old Dog crew to launch immediately. The crew push ahead with the B-1s' mission after they realize that they are the only remaining hope for destroying the laser.

After faking a crash outside Seattle and forcing a KC-10 crew in Shemya to refuel them, the Old Dog enters Soviet airspace and engages PVO fighters before and after destroying the laser.

With a number of crew members injured, and the aircraft damaged and leaking fuel, the crew realize that they no longer have enough fuel to return safely to the United States. They set down at Anadyr, a little-used Russian airfield to steal enough fuel for their journey home. Surprised in the act of refueling by Soviet forces, one of the crew sacrifices himself to allow the plane to take off. Despite considerable damage to both crew and aircraft and a final attack by a Soviet fighter, the Old Dog is able to make it home safely.

Between him, Douglas Reeman and Wilbur Smith I read some right dodgy stuff as a teenager.

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

Debbie Does Dagon posted:

I used to bartend at a holiday park where the average age was about 65. Worked there for over ten years. My conclusion was that maturing with age is a complete myth, and most people are frozen at whatever emotional state of development they hit at 8-years-old

I worked in a pub for half a decade, and I concur

Purple Prince
Aug 20, 2011

Pretty sure maturity is a function of how much effort you put into understanding yourself and your relationship to other people and the world, not time.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:
Jose did you close my GBS thread? I know it wasn't great but come on.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Purple Prince posted:

Pretty sure maturity is a function of how much effort you put into understanding yourself and your relationship to other people and the world, not time.

*pushes your head into the toilet bowl* lmao

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Gear porn - call me sexist but if a book has a few pages of lovingly described, detailed kit lists (weapons, computers, survival) I figure the intended audience is male. Ranulph Fiennes is a good example.
I do enjoy the books (gear porn) from an escapist perspective as they're great for holidays or stressful times but skip the gear lists. I also skip anything written in verse form and ludicrous sex scenes wittering on about arched backs and low moans.
I started reading the Arkady Renko books, they're a fun little read without the gear porn aspect. not sure they're airport fiction but i enjoyed reading them, plus the Gorky Park film is good.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

HJB posted:

Jose did you close my GBS thread? I know it wasn't great but come on.

No

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:

Okay. I think I need a break.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

HJB returns to this thread to find it open but as he goes to post again notices his hand is transparent and fading away

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Is that one of the symptoms that Dr. Masturbation warned about on twitter?

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Guavanaut posted:

Is that one of the symptoms that Dr. Masturbation warned about on twitter?

Purple Prince
Aug 20, 2011

Tesseraction posted:

*pushes your head into the toilet bowl* lmao

The sage often appears as a trickster

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


What is that av because it looks like a seagull needing some immodium

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Guavanaut posted:

They clasped in exquisite embrace
As a sweat bead rolled on down her face
A .458 Win Mag
An MPAD, ten sandbags
Four daggers, two swords, and a mace

She arched her back and gave a moan
She's enjoying he thought, that's ace.
But no, twas cramp in an unexpected place.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Debbie Does Dagon posted:

I used to bartend at a holiday park where the average age was about 65. Worked there for over ten years. My conclusion was that maturing with age is a complete myth, and most people are frozen at whatever emotional state of development they hit at 8-years-old

Depends on context. When I'm working I'm 'reliable, sensible, thoughtful, mature' etc. At my mother's, my sullen moody 14 year old persona reappears.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Flipswitch posted:

What is that av because it looks like a seagull needing some immodium

I believe it's a racing driver celebrating with shaken champagne that's been caught in a comical pose

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Flipswitch posted:

What is that av because it looks like a seagull needing some immodium

I would guess someone spraying champagne.

But it could be eating poo poo, true.

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


Dog Therapy: Shockingly Good

Bacon Terrorist posted:

I read Clive Barker's Weaveworld as a kid and the sex scenes in that scarred my pre-pubescent mind.

Yeah Wilbur Smith was my first exposure to the whole 'sex' concept at the tender age of 12.

It started with Birds of Prey

quote:

So you also get lots and lots of explicit sex. You don't remember your boys' adventure stories being full of keenly detailed squidging? They are now - no doubt, they always would have been, had boys had their way. Supplying this want is Wilbur Smith's speciality - Rider Haggard plus rumpy-pumpy equals a riotous success: some 100 million copies sold over his career, reportedly.

Hal Courteney is 17, brave, handsome, virgin - but not for long. In the year 1667, he is sailing off the Cape with his stiff but nice father, Sir Francis Courteney, in a licensed privateer, the Lady Edwina, preying on Dutch shipping.

In no time, they've captured a galleon, laden with treasure and a fantastic tart called Katinka. Hal is soon watching her at her bath, soon doing more. She's a sex-mad blonde, while, for his part, Hal is, we are told in possibly excessive detail, rather an enormous young man. Mr Smith's imagery for these passages tends to be derived from the world of nature: buds, brine, kelp, ripe plums, springy branches of saplings.

Alas for Hal, the ship's company is betrayed to the Dutch by a traitorous Scot. After another big fight, they are all taken prisoner and packed off to Cape Town. There Hal's poor dad is tortured to death, a scene relished by pervy Katinka. Hal becomes the company's leader - and finds a new love: oriental Sukeena (breasts pert as small golden pears, belly as smooth as butter, elsewhere as soft as a sleeping kitten).

Then moved on to lascivious descriptions of a 'budding' 14 year old Egyptian girl. Then the tantric sex warlock who was a eunuch until he magically regrew his penis but was still devoted to his 'queen' the aforementioned nubile egyptian girl. gently caress actually as I'm sitting here I'm remembering some deeply, deeply disturbing female 'execution' scenes that I'm not even going to write out here. Looking back on it with 20 years of hindsight HOLY poo poo were those books problematic in so many ways. Let alone his disturbing habit of marrying off cousins.

Oh yeah and a vote for James Follet too. Torus was a interesting enough popcorn plot but holy gently caress that explicit vietnamese refugee rape was not something I should have been reading at 14.

E: The clarify, these were absolutely massive mainstream books I got from the local library (remember those?) with no content warnings whatsoever. And they're worse than 80% of modern amazon erotica poo poo. Yet my parents wouldn't let me watch 15 rated movies at that point.

RockyB fucked around with this message at 14:49 on Jan 9, 2020

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I vaguely remember when I was younger getting some books from a series I think called the well of echoes, some fantasy thing that seemed interesting except for the fact that the books kept going off onto really weird sex tangents like where this dude has a super hard on for a hypersensitive nymph girl or something that can't wear clothes, and also there's... lion men or something, and I think they bang too, and I vaguely remember there being breeding factories which are basically brothels for producing children...

Like the actualy fantasy parts were interesting but I stopped reading because the author kept taking time out every chapter to have a big weird wank.

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

RockyB posted:

quote:

Rider Haggard plus rumpy-pumpy equals a riotous success: some 100 million copies sold over his career, reportedly.

Hal Courteney is 17, brave, handsome, virgin - but not for long. In the year 1667, he is sailing off the Cape with his stiff but nice father, Sir Francis Courteney, in a licensed privateer, the Lady Edwina, preying on Dutch shipping.

In no time, they've captured a galleon, laden with treasure and a fantastic tart called Katinka. Hal is soon watching her at her bath, soon doing more. She's a sex-mad blonde, while, for his part, Hal is, we are told in possibly excessive detail, rather an enormous young man. Mr Smith's imagery for these passages tends to be derived from the world of nature: buds, brine, kelp, ripe plums, springy branches of saplings.

Alas for Hal, the ship's company is betrayed to the Dutch by a traitorous Scot. After another big fight, they are all taken prisoner and packed off to Cape Town. There Hal's poor dad is tortured to death, a scene relished by pervy Katinka. Hal becomes the company's leader - and finds a new love: oriental Sukeena (breasts pert as small golden pears, belly as smooth as butter, elsewhere as soft as a sleeping kitten).
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