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kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

marktheando posted:

RLB and Rayner literally share a flat, I'm pretty sure they can get along.

You know who else used to share a flat - Len McCluskey and Tom Watson

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RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


Dog Therapy: Shockingly Good

OwlFancier posted:

I'm not sure what the point of having a deputy leader is if they're just going to do what the leader tells them to do.

It's for when the CIA starts trying to assassinate socialists again.

Can you imagine jess flaps as the deputy PM?

marktheando
Nov 4, 2006

OwlFancier posted:

I'm not sure what the point of having a deputy leader is if they're just going to do what the leader tells them to do.

It's just for standing in for the leader when needed and to balance the ticket, it's never been an important job. I don't know why you would want one who disagrees with the leader? We have had a few years of that and it hasn't ended well!

kustomkarkommando posted:

You know who else used to share a flat - Len McCluskey and Tom Watson

:eyepop:

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

RockyB posted:

Can't remember if I posted this before

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/central-line-temperature-london-weather-heatwave


Literally just raising the temperature of the surrounding clay by ten degrees because it's running constantly. The joys of engineering problems for infrastructure over a century old.

The City section of the Central is long overdue just straight up being abandoned and started over from scratch. One of the biggest problems with it is because of the unique legal position and system of the City it was impossible for them to get easements under buildings, so from Liverpool Street to Holborn it has to follow the streets rather than going in a straight line. This is why particularly the bit between Liverpool Street and St. Paul's is so bouncy and Bank station has that sharp curve in the platforms with resultant accessibility-killing gaps between train and platform. Also all of the underground platforms of the Central apart from Mile End are ridiculously, dangerously cramped even by the Tiny Train World standards of the deep tube lines - it's an outright miracle more people don't die, especially at Oxford Circus.

They did actually start that process between the wars, with the idea being to set up an express service from Holborn to Liverpool Street, stopping only at Bank, in brand new straight tunnels, but only got as far as digging part of two tunnels before the war broke out (that were used as shelters during the war, then became Kingsway Hardened Telephone Exchange). As Crossrail will be taking over a lot of the heavy lifting down that alignment when it finally opens, I don't see why they don't just shut the line down and reconfigure the entire thing.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

marktheando posted:

It's just for standing in for the leader when needed and to balance the ticket, it's never been an important job. I don't know why you would want one who disagrees with the leader? We have had a few years of that and it hasn't ended well!

I don't, I want one that can and will advocate for the same positions with a degree of enthusiasm and independence. Because we've already seen the problems with making one person the center of the effort to convince people.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/leninluvr1999/status/1215083001832304645?s=20
https://twitter.com/leninluvr1999/status/1215341264746369025?s=20

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

Also the Central Line seems to have tinted windows that make it feel even more oppressive. Like the train rolls in wearing sunglasses in a threatening manner.

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

baka kaba posted:

^^^ 'hurt'?? I'm reliably informed there's FURY and INCANDESCENT RAGE

oh also DECLARATION OF WAR of course


lol



random picture from sometime

troubled harry... conflicted?

meghan all :yeshaha:

MEGXIT

:laugh: i hate that poo poo and it's depressing how effective it is on idiots. I overheard someone talking about it today like they were talking about Eastenders. She is a "honey knife" apparently and that ba was just to get her claws well into him!!!!!!!!!!!!! :nyd:

Like he's clearly just struggling to hold something in his arse in that picture and wants to get away, anyone would know that

Purple Prince
Aug 20, 2011

Coohoolin posted:

Never liked Barry Gardiner that much, no real reason except gut feeling. Interesting to find out he backed the Iraq war and absolutely loving adores Modi.

He used to be my MP. Decent enough guy but pretty eccentric: he used to come and give talks to the CLP which were clearly memorised speeches that he recycled for any constituency based events that week. He had a reputation locally as being eccentric but basically the Teflon Man in terms of people digging dirt on him.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Bobstar posted:

Also the Central Line seems to have tinted windows that make it feel even more oppressive. Like the train rolls in wearing sunglasses in a threatening manner.

What else do you expect from a line that goes out to Essex? The only surprise is that it doesn't have a Range Rover badge on the front.

(Those tints are actually because of that really long and, crucially, mostly east-west overground section from Bethnal Green out to the outer darkness - the amount of solar heating at noon in summer was stupendous, and the IR-reflecting tint reduces that to almost nil, meaning the trains are like ten or fifteen degrees cooler by the time they get to the Stratford tunnel. They've got the same film on the windows of District, Piccadilly and Met line trains for the same reasons, but not on Northern, Jubilee, or Victoria line trains which spend less time above ground and are mostly north-south running.)

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

goddamnedtwisto posted:

What else do you expect from a line that goes out to Essex? The only surprise is that it doesn't have a Range Rover badge on the front.

(Those tints are actually because of that really long and, crucially, mostly east-west overground section from Bethnal Green out to the outer darkness - the amount of solar heating at noon in summer was stupendous, and the IR-reflecting tint reduces that to almost nil, meaning the trains are like ten or fifteen degrees cooler by the time they get to the Stratford tunnel. They've got the same film on the windows of District, Piccadilly and Met line trains for the same reasons, but not on Northern, Jubilee, or Victoria line trains which spend less time above ground and are mostly north-south running.)

I knew you'd know the reason (Soh-crates voice: Geek! *chuckling*)

Explains why I find it odd, I spend my time on the Victoria and Northern.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Purple Prince posted:

He used to be my MP. Decent enough guy but pretty eccentric: he used to come and give talks to the CLP which were clearly memorised speeches that he recycled for any constituency based events that week. He had a reputation locally as being eccentric but basically the Teflon Man in terms of people digging dirt on him.

Well I guess at least until he decided to get involved in labours Kashmir stance to basically support India in the election

Katt
Nov 14, 2017

What's this royal family schism I keep hearing about?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Katt posted:

What's this royal family schism I keep hearing about?

The houses of york and lancaster are having a dispute over who will succeed the throne.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Jose posted:

jess phillips has got the 22 nominations required to be in the election jfc

I mean...Yes? I can believe the Blairites still comprise more than 10% of the PLP. It's our job to ruin her hopes and dreams.

Katt
Nov 14, 2017

OwlFancier posted:

The houses of york and lancaster are having a dispute over who will succeed the throne.

Why? What happened to Charles?

Don't tell me he croaked. He's the saddest royal that ever lived. He should at least get the chance to be crowned before he dies.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

Katt posted:

Why? What happened to Charles?

Don't tell me he croaked. He's the saddest royal that ever lived. He should at least get the chance to be crowned before he dies.

Charles on the throne would be a dream come true for republicans

Katt
Nov 14, 2017

Spangly A posted:

Charles on the throne would be a dream come true for republicans

He just gets to sit there quickly before he goes back in the life support unit.


I almost feel sorry for Charles (almost) Guy spent his entire life planning what he would be doing as a 50 something king. The places he would go and the world leaders he would dine with and it all went to poo poo. Assuming he outlives his mother he will be too decrepit to do more than just sit there and make mumbling noises at Christmas.


When he got re-married there was supposed to be this big controversy about the succession if he had more kids but people just went "Meh, old fucker probably jizzes dust anyway"

marktheando
Nov 4, 2006

Katt posted:

What's this royal family schism I keep hearing about?

they threw meghan under the bus to distract from william's affair and andrew raping children

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Spangly A posted:

Charles on the throne would be a dream come true for republicans
Plus we could change the Royal Anthem to the Charles in Charge theme.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006
love the latest headline on BBC news

"Queen asks staff to find solution with Sussexes"

because god forbid she actually talk to her own loving grandson

winegums
Dec 21, 2012


we're so far past anyone giving a gently caress about anything, I think the queen could annex parliament and declare herself absolute monarch and nobody would really care.

literally i think about 1'000 people could just undo our social structure.

Bardeh
Dec 2, 2004

Fun Shoe
By the time Brenda finally snuffs it Charles will be pushing 80. Would it be some sort of constitutional problem for him to pass the crown straight to William? I mean, he won't, but is he allowed to?

Judge Tesla
Oct 29, 2011

:frogsiren:

marktheando posted:

they threw meghan under the bus to distract from william's affair

First I'd heard of this! Queenie must be having a fit.

marktheando
Nov 4, 2006

Bardeh posted:

By the time Brenda finally snuffs it Charles will be pushing 80. Would it be some sort of constitutional problem for him to pass the crown straight to William? I mean, he won't, but is he allowed to?

He could abdicate like his great uncle did

Judge Tesla posted:

First I'd heard of this! Queenie must be having a fit.

only foreign press have reported on it because our press are scared of pissing off the queen and losing access lol

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Bardeh posted:

By the time Brenda finally snuffs it Charles will be pushing 80. Would it be some sort of constitutional problem for him to pass the crown straight to William? I mean, he won't, but is he allowed to?

No problem at all - even in the days of the Crown being magically passed down, he could have still abdicated immediately or self-disinherited. Nowadays succession is decided by Parliament* to keep those Catholics out and stop the French sneaking in, and so they just say "William's King now".

* Parliament decides who is monarch, and the monarch grants Parliament their power. This might be a bit of a problem if we ever have to cold-start the system.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

AzzaBamboo could do with some kind words, comrades https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3910175

Bardeh
Dec 2, 2004

Fun Shoe
Bet it's tense in the Windsor WhatsApp group today

Chuka Umana
Apr 30, 2019

by sebmojo
Emily Thornberry not even getting five MPs to endorse her is comforting.

It looks like the next race will be who gets second place against Starmer for the final round. Not hoping it ends up being Starmer vs Jesspiss

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

goddamnedtwisto posted:

No problem at all - even in the days of the Crown being magically passed down, he could have still abdicated immediately or self-disinherited. Nowadays succession is decided by Parliament* to keep those Catholics out and stop the French sneaking in, and so they just say "William's King now".

* Parliament decides who is monarch, and the monarch grants Parliament their power. This might be a bit of a problem if we ever have to cold-start the system.

It's fine, we'll just pick a Lord Protector. Pouring one out for my English Commonwealth homies.

Purple Prince
Aug 20, 2011

E: Ill-conceived post

Purple Prince fucked around with this message at 23:56 on Jan 9, 2020

BobbyThompson
Mar 23, 2001
Honest question.. asking as a disillusioned Labour voter...if you can't take it as that, your problem.

Ignore the gender.

No other options.

Lisa Nandy or Dan Jarvis?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Death.

BobbyThompson
Mar 23, 2001

Easily available in the now defunct and unobtainable option of gulag.

Still want to know what you think of both.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Some war guy and some socialism with racist characteristics lady I dunno.

BobbyThompson
Mar 23, 2001

OwlFancier posted:

Some war guy and some socialism with racist characteristics lady I dunno.

Fair enough evaluation, ta :)

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


BobbyThompson posted:

Honest question.. asking as a disillusioned Labour voter

That's a good one.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Oh good he's back

BobbyThompson
Mar 23, 2001

forkboy84 posted:

That's a good one.

Exactly 28 years.

2017 being the last time I voted for them.. after I observed the normalisation of bigotry.

My house is on road 100m from the polling station, I was given some "Vote Labour" correx from the local HQ and I blocked out all my upstairs windows with it.. and played Captain SKA on 4, well placed speakers in the hedge for about 10hrs.

I'm only telling you all this because I have no reason not to.

Weird poo poo.

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ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

winegums posted:

we're so far past anyone giving a gently caress about anything, I think the queen could annex parliament and declare herself absolute monarch and nobody would really care.

literally i think about 1'000 people could just undo our social structure.

don't give the SWP ideas

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