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cyka blyat posted:China is socialist like America is democratic. Greater China is like a goblin camp with all the pushing shouting and spitting.
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Jan 9, 2020 16:29
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THS posted:Greater China is like a goblin camp with all the pushing shouting and spitting. Yeah not my finest moment, i did a racism. I admit that. Chinese government is absolute poo poo and noy actual socialism.
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Jan 9, 2020 16:31
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cyka blyat posted:China is socialist like America is democratic. do you talk to your family in these non sequitors?
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Jan 9, 2020 16:32
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china is an imperialist capitalist country which is why the us is fiercely trying to constrain them i know this because a bunch of sexpats in a Bad Thread told me orientals are swarthy also tankies are anyone doing anything to counteract capitalism beyond retweeting anarchist critiques of measurement systems and furry porn
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Jan 9, 2020 16:33
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if only those gullible africans stopped trusting the insidious chinamen building railways and instead put their trust in honest westerners who *checks notes* bombed a nation with the highest standard of living on the continent back to the stone age and left it to rot
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Jan 9, 2020 16:51
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Lol why does everything have to be whataboutism with the United States? The US absolutely screwed over Africa. But guess what, so is China. Maybe Africa shouldnt be getting screwed over by any outside powers, whether they be nominally democratic Capitalists or nominally communist Capitalists.
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Jan 9, 2020 16:54
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“whataboutism” lol
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Jan 9, 2020 16:56
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cyka blyat posted:Lol why does everything have to be whataboutism with the United States? The US absolutely screwed over Africa. But guess what, so is China. Maybe Africa shouldnt be getting screwed over by any outside powers, whether they be nominally democratic Capitalists or nominally communist Capitalists. Lol why does everything have to be whataboutism with polio? polio absolutely screwes over young children. But guess what, so do vaccines.
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Jan 9, 2020 17:03
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"the us screwed over africa but thats no reason for them to accept aid and investments from someone else!!!!!!!!!"
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Jan 9, 2020 17:04
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you'd think a bunch of free marketeers would be happy third world countries have a choice of which superpower gets to pimp them out. competition is good for efficiency!
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Jan 9, 2020 17:05
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I mean realistically we should be critical of how larger, more powerful countries engage with weaker countries in a capitalist society. But also people who hate what China is doing in Africa generally just assert that it’s bad without some kind of backing and all of the stuff I’ve seen coming out of it has seemed reasonable and fair as far as international trade and development deals go. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Jan 9, 2020 17:05
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“breathing water will kill you, but the nitrogen in air decreases brain function. all of africa should hold their breath while i ponder this in a medium post”
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Jan 9, 2020 17:09
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Ah, a Stalinist.Pener Kropoopkin posted:It's plainly obvious that westerners only complain about China developing its interests in Africa, because they thought they could keep the whole continent under-developed and extract its resources at the lowest possible prices indefinitely. China is cutting African governments a better deal to fuel its own industrial development, and First Worlders can't stand that they're muscling in on our turf. Correct. It's still baby's first neocolonialism, is the thing. The Sicomines thing in the DRC is a good example, since China got essentially permanent access to valuable rare Earth materials in exchange for a couple hundred million dollars. This is in contrast to back in the Mao days where they just gave Zaire poo poo to swing them over against the Soviets and the US
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Jan 9, 2020 17:17
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Seinfeld: what's the deal about whataboutism? What about this? What about that? Have Africans thought about autonomously building their own ports and railroads? Am I the only person who's thought of this?
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Jan 9, 2020 17:19
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When it comes to the issue of Chinese involvement in African nations, I like to look to sources from those nations themselves and not agitprop manufactured for CNN: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdkD8WxeZjE
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Jan 9, 2020 17:22
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Pathetic America
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Jan 9, 2020 17:59
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chinese outward FDI is pretty low relative to the country's size. and just having an outward FDI stock doesn't automatically mean imperialist when even third world countries invest beyond their borders nowadays. what is more important is the terms and conditions and the types of profits extracted
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Jan 9, 2020 18:04
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Africa is democratically electing governments that then try to avoid Western neolcolonialism by forming economic partnerships outside the IMF. This means Chinese imperialism to some people because they are bad faith fascist scum. Easy peasy.
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Jan 9, 2020 18:06
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Future is Asian, while the author has an obvious libertarian bias, has a decent look at the reality of why African and West Asian countries are incentivised to accept economic deals with China over the West.
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Jan 9, 2020 18:10
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CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:When it comes to the issue of Chinese involvement in African nations, I like to look to sources from those nations themselves and not agitprop manufactured for CNN:  
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Jan 9, 2020 18:11
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China is the most peaceful major adversary the Gringo scum has ever had, and they still flip the gently caress out about them lol
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Jan 9, 2020 18:15
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fun fact, the US routinely threatens african countries that spend money to subsidize their farmers' seeds and fertilizers while subsidizing their own farmers to the tune of 700 billion every 5 years with the farm bill
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Jan 9, 2020 18:16
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Lightning Knight posted:I mean realistically we should be critical of how larger, more powerful countries engage with weaker countries in a capitalist society. No, that would be maoist thinking which is 30% wrong!
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Jan 9, 2020 18:27
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Modest Mao posted:No, that would be maoist thinking which is 30% wrong! User name / post lol
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Jan 9, 2020 18:48
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https://twitter.com/DanielDumbrill/status/1215165980281753600?s=19
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Jan 9, 2020 18:58
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cyka blyat posted:Lol why does everything have to be whataboutism with the United States? The US absolutely screwed over Africa. But guess what, so is China. Maybe Africa shouldnt be getting screwed over by any outside powers, whether they be nominally democratic Capitalists or nominally communist Capitalists. If the PRC already has a record of screwing over other countries as bad as the US does, why do African nations still deal with them?
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Jan 9, 2020 19:01
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It's tictok/douyin still a neutral battle ground? Where the American and Iranian diplomats diss each other 15 seconds at a time.
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Jan 9, 2020 19:10
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cyka blyat posted:African Socialism is a foreign company owning the mining rights and having its entire structure be made up of non Africans. Only the exploited laborers are African. Neither of these things is true. Most of the workforce on Chinese projects is local, and many Africans train either at home or in China to replace Chinese labor farther up the value chain. There is also no evidence of mineral rights being demanded as part of the terms of loans. Some loans are paid with minerals, but the surplus remains in local hands as does ownership rights.
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Jan 9, 2020 19:14
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It's really unfair to bring up America when talking about international trade and free markets. WHAT DOES AMERICA HAVE TO DO WITH TRADE AND MARKETS? OR THE IMF OR WORLD BANK?????? I'M 5 YEARS OLD, HOW DO I GO POO POO IN THE TOILET???????
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Jan 9, 2020 20:10
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Glad to see this thread is keeping up its record of top-notch posting quality
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Jan 9, 2020 20:52
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LimburgLimbo posted:Glad to see this thread is keeping up its record of top-notch posting quality 
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Jan 9, 2020 21:13
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i think the thread title is really funny rn well, that's all from me. bye (:
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Jan 9, 2020 21:16
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Jan 9, 2020 21:23
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The guy who says that the Chinese government are “invading” and “colonizing” Hong Kong has some things to say to us about posting quality. And I think we should listen
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Jan 9, 2020 21:29
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LimburgLimbo posted:I’m legitimately very interested in how Mainland China is somehow not colonizing Hong Kong. Are all Asians the same to you...? LimburgLimbo posted:People with largely separate history, separate culture, separate language being taken over with the threat of violence, stripped of their rights, exploited for their resources/economy, and having their native language and culture suppressed LimburgLimbo posted:Wow that’s quite the difference. Seems like Hong Kongers should do anything the can to stop themselves from being colonized by such losers. Cringe
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Jan 9, 2020 21:32
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LimburgLimbo posted:
Nothing 2 see here 😘 Im not racist lol
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Jan 9, 2020 21:34
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powerful weird white guy in china energy
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Jan 9, 2020 21:35
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Seems like there's a correlation between being a mouthpiece for Western propaganda and being racist or something... hmmm very interesting
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Jan 9, 2020 21:37
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What if china is doing an imperialism? We could lose the discount culture of lovely borders made by the British a couple generations ago. How terrible. Who would trade classic imperialism for infrastructure and trade ties with a country that at worst could be said to be not as fully comunist as they say they are. Who would want that compared to American companies openly enguageing in resource extraction with the promise the worst terms they can get away with Reznor has issued a correction as of 22:38 on Jan 9, 2020 |
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Jan 9, 2020 22:36
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Reznor posted:What if china is doing an imperialism? Yes, selling mining rights to historically good PRC will fix the borders of African nations. I agree, China at worst is not doing a Communism. Just ask Falun Gong, Vietnam, Uyghur, Taiwan, etc.
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Jan 9, 2020 22:41
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