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Bupkis.. say bupkis, Paulie...  wha?That's how they say nuthin' gently caress dat... THIS IS HOW I SAY NUTHIN *prang* *prang* *prang* *prang*
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I always liked this scene alot and feel like it gets over looked by all the other amazing scenes this show has: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt-IOGfs9PY ".....go to your room."
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Jan 10, 2020 01:43
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"What do you think Education is, that you just make more money?" Best past is that this is EXACTLY what Carmela thinks, and she's never happier than she is when (end of series spoilers) Meadow gets a job as a lawyer making a six figure salary.
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@biggerboat wait did the ems grunt actually take money? I thought they were just sweating him
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I doubt it. I think he just scrounged it up to keep from getting murdered by the mafia. Tony didn't even think of the shakedown until they told him someone looked in his wallet. Tony never had the money. It was just another way to earn.
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Like, does Tony even regularly keep more than a little bit of cash in his wallet? It always looks more like he carries around a fat roll of cash in his pockets so he can peel off bills while showing off how much more money he's actually got.
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Yeah, he runs a fat roll typically, but I doubt the paramedic would have yoinked it. Or wait, were they were pretty explicit about claiming the dude yoinked it from his wallet and not his pocket?
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Tony says he had 2k in his wallet, which is either straight up bullshit or just Tony having convinced himself he did. More to the point, it's a way for him to lash out after the unpleasantness of his encounter with the Insurance lady just adding on to his sense of detachment after coming out of the coma. Here is something he can pinpoint and target as an injustice done to him (even if he's just making it up) and exhibit control over by intimidating the poor bastard. When he deigns to not take the money it's another way of him making himself feel better, that whole "Every day is a gift!" bullshit where he "kindly" "solves" a problem of his own creation. Just like how he decides not to push back against the Barone sale after Jason's mother freaks out, he's doing a good thing but it is only necessary because he did the bad thing in the first place to cause all these problems.
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Good point. I had just figured it was a chance to sweat out some cash, without considering the context of him defraying his frustration via sadism
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I thought seeing Vito at the club was the big shock reveal. I forgot entirely about the whole Finn storyline with him. Amazing to me how long the show seems for 6 seasons. Looking back now, Livia and the sports store and stuff seems a lifetime ago codo27 fucked around with this message at 13:25 on Jan 10, 2020 |
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Remember way back in season one when Pussy gets picked up and complains the feds took four dimes off him? Tony knows better to carry that kind of cash for just such an event.
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When he has the Pie oh My painting done he breaks off like 6k from his roll and still has extra. Sil has 4k randomly in his pocket when Tony grills him about the stolen esplanade floor tiles. banned from Starbucks fucked around with this message at 15:04 on Jan 10, 2020 |
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banned from Starbucks posted:Sil has 4k randomly in his pocket when Tony grills him about the stolen esplanade floor tiles. That wasn't random, he needed to have that money on him because Tony was absolutely expecting a cut of something that wasn't supposed to be done in the first place that Silvio may have defied him to make happen.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:That wasn't random, he needed to have that money on him because Tony was absolutely expecting a cut of something that wasn't supposed to be done in the first place that Silvio may have defied him to make happen. And in the other instance Tony was going to buy a painting. They'll carry a lot of cash but it's not for walking around money.
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I know Jerusalem just included it because it's been a theory for a while, but I absolutely hate that people even entertain the "Russ Fegoli is Paulie's father" idea. First of all, two people having the same name is not at all uncommon in real life and it's reflected in the show. There are four Anthonys (Tony, AJ, Blundetto, Infante), two Paulies, three Bobbys, three Jacks (Jackie Sr., Jackie Jr., Jack Massarone), etc, etc. poo poo, there's even a Big Pussy and a Little Pussy. Secondly, Russ and Paulie appear to be the same age, so good luck on figuring that one out. And as far as I can tell, the show never went for ridiculous connections like that. Sorry, it's up there with the Russian and Tony's alive/dead when it comes to debates of which I've grown incredibly tired.
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Dead, or soon to be dead. /argument ;-)
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Pope Corky the IX posted:I know Jerusalem just included it because it's been a theory for a while, but I absolutely hate that people even entertain the "Russ Fegoli is Paulie's father" idea. First of all, two people having the same name is not at all uncommon in real life and it's reflected in the show. There are four Anthonys (Tony, AJ, Blundetto, Infante), two Paulies, three Bobbys, three Jacks (Jackie Sr., Jackie Jr., Jack Massarone), etc, etc. poo poo, there's even a Big Pussy and a Little Pussy. Secondly, Russ and Paulie appear to be the same age, so good luck on figuring that one out. And as far as I can tell, the show never went for ridiculous connections like that. Pope, you give these guys a theory, they'd probably try to gently caress it
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I had honestly never thought of it til reading this thread- it’s a silly theory but it definitely grabbed me first I heard it.
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It never worked for me since Russ should be Carm’s dad’s age, but Pauline should be at least a decade older than she and Tony
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Were there any other mob guys who were faithful besides Bobby Jr? I could have sworn there was another. I've been reading the fan wikis for the last few days because I'm bored e: nvm, it Was Johnny sack. Milo and POTUS fucked around with this message at 01:02 on Jan 11, 2020 |
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Most, oh who am I kidding, all modern comedies fall well short of the constant laugh ride that is Luxury Lounge
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Dawgstar posted:And in the other instance Tony was going to buy a painting. They'll carry a lot of cash but it's not for walking around money. ok but when Carmela asks for 50k for the Columbia donation he takes like 5k out of his pocket and tosses it to her like nothing. He also gives Artie like 4k that he has on him in the Armagnac episode. He def carries a stack the majority of the time.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:I know Jerusalem just included it because it's been a theory for a while, but I absolutely hate that people even entertain the "Russ Fegoli is Paulie's father" idea. First of all, two people having the same name is not at all uncommon in real life and it's reflected in the show. There are four Anthonys (Tony, AJ, Blundetto, Infante), two Paulies, three Bobbys, three Jacks (Jackie Sr., Jackie Jr., Jack Massarone), etc, etc. poo poo, there's even a Big Pussy and a Little Pussy. Secondly, Russ and Paulie appear to be the same age, so good luck on figuring that one out. And as far as I can tell, the show never went for ridiculous connections like that. I basically threw the line in there because it comes up so often, it's not a "theory" that really ever occurred to me when watching the show v  v. There is a lot of fun to be had in the idea though of a snob like Russ having a kid as crass and unsophisticated (and tied into the mob) as Paulie, but I don't think anybody should, would or could put any kind of weight onto the idea.
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how thick does a stack of bills have to be to stop a bullet? these guys are terrified of getting killed and are always having to hide stacks of cash everywhere, seems like they could kill two birds with one stone if they just lined their jackets with huge wads.
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Eau de MacGowan posted:how thick does a stack of bills have to be to stop a bullet? these guys are terrified of getting killed and are always having to hide stacks of cash everywhere, seems like they could kill two birds with one stone if they just lined their jackets with huge wads. telephone book up to 'r' so, couple inches?
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Didn’t some loving idiot just get killed by his girlfriend like this recently? It depends on range and calibre.
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Torquemada posted:Didn’t some loving idiot just get killed by his girlfriend like this recently? It depends on range and calibre. I think they used a desert eagle which, lol, is not the same as Phil's .38 or whatever he had.
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Jerusalem posted:More to the point, it's a way for him to lash out after the unpleasantness of his encounter with the Insurance lady just adding on to his sense of detachment after coming out of the coma. Here is something he can pinpoint and target as an injustice done to him (even if he's just making it up) and exhibit control over by intimidating the poor bastard. This is the way I always read it. The "wallet biopsy" remark set him off, and this is his way of getting even. Never mind that the poor EMT tech has nothing to do with the insurance company's "utilization review specialist"
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I didn't think anyone could approach Daphne's family from Frasier for my most hated tv characters but man AJ is getting close. He is literally every modern reddit chud. What a fuckin dumb nuisance
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AJ is perfect, as long as he’s not your child
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Cushy psych lock-up for "Don Squirrel-Leone"
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COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:Cushy psych lock-up for "Don Squirrel-Leone" I love that it never gets explicitly stated that the media backlash is the reason they decide to ignore all the psychologists and just dump him in a shithole after all.
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I know the boat they are in in Soprano Home Movies gotta be right out of The Last Crusade
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Season 6, Episode 5 - Mr. & Mrs. John Sacrimoni Request...Phil Leotardo posted:My estimation of John Sacrimoni as a man just loving plummeted. Rusty Millio recieves a landmine in the mail. Not of the explosive type, at least in the traditional sense. As his wife Gianna enters the room calling for him, he shows her the piece of mail just opened that has got him so distracted. It's a lovely invitation to the wedding of Allegra Marie Sacrimoni, an invitation extended in the name of Mr and Mrs. John Sacrimoni. Rusty is left pondering his reaction, because this is an extremely delicate situation. Is the invitation sincere or an insult? Is it an offer to put the past behind them or an acknowledgement that it would be an insult NOT to invite him? Would him accepting in itself be an insult back at John? Would declining to come ALSO be an insult? Would accepting be an implicit acknowledgement of John's position as the Boss of the Lupertazzi Family? Is the very act of the offer itself a suggestion that Rusty is so far beneath John's concern or worry that he can freely invite him to his daughter's wedding despite Rusty's bid to be the power behind a Little Carmine administration? What the hell is Rusty's next move? He has time to consider it, because a clunky inter-title declares to us "6 Weeks Later" in Times New Roman Font on a black background. Happily it'll be the clumsiest part of what is otherwise a superb episode.   Johnny Sack sits in prison smoking and waiting. His lawyer arrives with a Brioni suit, and John quickly changes out of his orange jumpsuit into the expensive suit before he attends court for what is the most pressing and anticipating decision of his life so far. It's nothing to do with the case against him, though. His lawyer has put in a request that Johnny be temporarily released from Federal Holding to attend his daughter's wedding. The Prosecutor of course is aghast, declaring it is a ludicrous request not to be taken seriously and treating the defense's question about her own father attending HER marriage with the contempt it deserves. But the Judge is, if not sympathetic, at least not cruel and seemingly remembers one of the key factors supposedly underpinning the law: you are innocent until proven guilty. Johnny Sack may be awaiting trial on massive criminal conspiracy charges but he's not been found guilty yet, and so he grants the application... with certain unshakeable conditions. He will be out for only 6 hours. He will be escorted the entire time by U.S Marshals whose transport and costs he will cover at his own expense. He will not drink alcohol or use drugs, he will pay for the use of metal detection equipment, and he will be permitted only to attend the Church service and the Reception afterwards. Johnny doesn't even hesitate to agree to these (frankly, pretty draconian) terms, and offers a sincere thank you to the Judge. It is one of the most important day's in a parent's life, and he is willing to bear almost any cost to be there. Carmela opens the door to find a mountain on the other side. It's Perry Annunziata, Tony's new driver, and he's absolutely made out of pure muscle. She invites him in and, as all visitors do, he compliments her on her beautiful house, which as always gets a smile from her. Tony steps gingerly in from the kitchen with his coffee, greeting "Muscles Marinara" while Carmela points out how happy she is to have somebody with him capable of protecting him (those biceps won't stop a bullet, but it's a psychological relief to her). It's Tony's first day back at "work" and Carmela admits she feels like a mommy, a bit of infantilization that Tony clearly finds a little uncomfortable. He offers her a forced smile though, after all he's more than aware of how much he owes and values the effort she put in while he was in the coma and during his recovery. In the car, Tony eyes up Perry's bulging biceps and asks if he uses machines or free weights. Perry is happy to talk about working out, saying he does whatever is required for the part of his body he is working on that day. Tony, middle-aged, overweight and still getting used to even being able to walk again, can't help but point out that he's lifted some pretty heavy-weights in his own time.... sometimes with a headcold even! For Perry, being able to bench 300lbs once probably doesn't even register as anything other than normal. What DOES get a reaction though is when two workmen in a pickup zips past them and then pulls in front without signaling. Pissed, Perry pulls up alongside them at the STOP sign and snaps at them about it, and one of the workmen gives him a "gently caress you" response. Now Perry is livid, not hesitating as he pops his seatbelt and prepares to launch himself out of the car and into a fight. Tony restrains him and he contains himself, and the workmen drive off laughing. In control now, Perry apologizes, admitting that his mother always tells him to count to 10 before losing his temper but he always forgets. Tony though is delighted, both by his hangdog expression making him look far younger, and perhaps recognizing the same quick-to-ignite rage he has himself and probably had in greater intensity when he was younger. They drive on, Tony patting him affectionately on the shoulder, unknowingly filing away the knowledge that Perry has a short fuse somewhere he'll be able to retrieve later on.   Tony's first stop today is Therapy. It's his first session back since getting out of the hospital, and as a result while Melfi pushes him in some places she also takes it easy in others and lets him dictate the framework of what is and isn't subject to discussion. As she notes though, unless she knows NOTHING about her chosen field of Psychology, than Tony getting shot by his Uncle is going to raise a ton of issues he is going to have to eventually confront. Tony admits at least that he understands just how hosed up it is that his Uncle has now tried twice to kill him, darkly adding "three strikes and you're out", which could refer to his own death or just as easily Uncle Junior's. But he is adamant he won't discuss Junior beyond saying he hasn't spoken to him since the shooting and he will NOT speak to him ever again. Instead, Melfi shifts back to the subject of their sessions before Tony's shooting, which were largely about AJ. Tony is disgusted by the fact that AJ has dropped out of College, even when Melfi points out that he did the same thing. Tony, of course, doesn't want AJ to turn out like he did (or like Jason Barone)... but he also kinda wishes that he had more of what Tony thinks of as his positive qualities. AJ working in a Blockbuster is, as he puts it, the first stop on the shitbird express. But Melfi pushes him on this subject, it was the one he said he was willing to talk about so she doesn't treat him with kid gloves. AJ has been surrounded by guns and violence his whole life, and sure dropping out of college isn't good but can't Tony at least admit,"There are worse ways to earn money than by stocking shelves at Blockbuster?" - on that subject at least, Tony has no choice but to agree. In the back of Satriale's, a "friendly" poker game is in session between Silvio, Christopher, Vito, Paulie, Murmur, Benny and Jason Molinaro, watched by Dante Greco. Paulie is struggling to decide whether to call and complaining about Christopher ruining his concentration, finally folding just as Tony arrives. That breaks the tension as everybody greets and embraces him, as pleased to see him as he is to be there. He settles in at the head of the table, Silvio gladly giving up the position, and they rush to bring him a hot coffee and a bialy. Tony happily opens the latter only to frown and admit reluctantly that he can't eat the onions due to his stomach. Paulie immediately orders Dante to scoop them out and he's happy to comply, others hovering around, everybody wanting to be the first to do the Boss a solid. Tony accepts this service, then questions Vito about the bidding on the municipal swimming pool. Vito assures him he has a lunch meeting coming up tomorrow with the guy from the Planning Commission. Christopher spots his antibiotics and notes that he had to have some after he lost his spleen. That's all the prompting Tony needs to proudly show off the scar on his stomach, which of course Christopher immediately has to try and one-up by showing off his own from the Bevilaqua/Gismonte shooting. The other mobsters groan in appreciation, but things get a little unsettling as Tony - who has been living with his recovery for weeks now - goes into vivid detail about the various medical complications he had to ensure including intestinal blockages. All of that is far less compelling than the "cool" visual of the scars, and Silvio pointedly asks if Tony is going to sit in on the game, cutting off the talk in a way that lets Tony know it's time to change the subject without directly insulting him. They all find a safer subject of derision when Dante offers to set his watch to Tony's medicine intake, admitting that he cared for his Lupus-stricken mother before she died and actually found himself enjoying being her nurse. Tony notes with interest Dante's admission that he could easily lift his mother out of the tub (again, tucking away pertinent information for later) and points out that the sickest irony of his long hospital stay was that he lost muscle mass rather than body fat. At least losing fat would have been ONE good thing that could have come out of this. Christopher carefully steers him away again by repeating Silvio's earlier question about whether he is in the game. They crack some jokes at Paulie's expense over losing the last three pots and Tony settles in with a smile, enjoying the camaraderie and normalcy of being back at "work".   Things aren't normal for Junior Soprano. Despite being well-dressed in a tailored suit, he's not all there as his latest lawyer and the DA meet with a judge to discuss his mental state. Far from their first assessment of him when Junior was only pretending to have gone senile, the Government's neuro-psychologists now completely agrees with Junior's own experts that there is evidence of dementia. The judge feels it is appropriate that Junior be sent to a prison facility for psychological treatment so he can take part in his trial, but Junior's lawyer accurately points out that any public-funded facility will simply "warehouse" him: leave him alone and abandoned in "storage" without actually doing anything to help him. He wants Junior in a private locked facility, and when the DA snorts that he might as well ask to be sent to a resort, the lawyer makes a pertinent point: does he WANT Junior capable of having a trial? Because if so, he needs to make sure he gets the psychological help he actually needs. The Judge considers and casts a look Junior's way, but Junior has nothing to add... he's staring with bored disinterest at a container of Tic-Tacs he found in his pocket. Right now, this does NOT look like a guy who could be tried for years of operating a gang in organized crime. Johnny Sack, however, is still sharp as a tack and he's pissed. Meeting with his family including future son-in-law Eric DeBenedetto during Visiting Hours at the prison, he's ranting about the seating arrangements for the Reception, complaining about feuding family members being put at the same table. Calming himself when he sees the other prisoners (and more importantly, the guards) staring his way, he settles down at the table. His other daughter, Catherine can't help but playfully snipe at Allegra for wanting such a big wedding, and Ginny brings her sharply back into line. Seeing Allegra is upset, Johnny apologizes to his loving daughter and then warmly tells his family that they are going to get through all this with pride and dignity despite the "persecution". He includes Eric in this "family" grouping, though Eric is clearly somewhat intimidated by his soon-to-be Father-in-Law even when he's informed (instructed, really) to call him "Dad". Johnny reminds Allegra and Ginny they both need to eat, but Ginny proudly proclaims she is only 8lbs away from her target weight and intends to fit into the dress. Catherine, dangerously thin even when not compared to Ginny and Allegra (she's clearly pushed too far in the other direction) is the one who snaps this time, complaining that the family can't ever do anything but talk about food! Back at Satriale's, Tony wraps up his part in the game and tells a surprised Silvio that he's restricting the hours he "works" while he's still recovering. Dante agrees wholeheartedly, the body expends tremendous energy when it is healing. Tony tells Perry to go get the car ready, calling him Penne Arabiatta. The others are amused by this and Tony happily explains he has "peppers up his rear end", he's a real hot head and Tony is still clearly delighted by this fact. Before Tony can leave though, Peter LaRosa timidly pops his head through the door to inform him that Phil Leotardo has shown up to see him. Clearly not keen on the idea, Tony tells LaRosa to bring him in, and Phil steps in and warmly greets them all, though they don't offer much back but silence: they remember the trouble Phil caused over the Blundetto situation, and he's also on THEIR turf uninvited. The pleasantries out of the way, Phil quietly asks to speak to Tony in private, and after a half-hearted effort to get out of it Tony agrees and and they step out into the parking lot. There Phil makes a shocking admission: Johnny Sack wants to kill Rusty Millio. Tony is surprised but Johnny's reasoning is sound: Rusty already tried to rule the Family through one puppet, what's to stop him from trying again, especially with Johnny in prison awaiting trial? Tony considers and, exhausted and grumpy, comes to a film conclusion: No. He's been doing Johnny's "bidding" a lot lately and it is time to set some limits, so he refuses. Phil is clearly not pleased... but he's also in the happy situation of simply being the middle-man. So he doesn't try to convince or push Tony, he simply asks him to confirm his no and then leaves, even throwing in a simple "Be well" as he goes. Tony, pleased to have that behind him, gets into the car and returns home. There, he tries to make his way quietly up the stairs, but exhausted and physically weak as he is his heavy breathing along would be enough to get Carmela's attention. She comes out of the kitchen and asks him how his "first" day went. He tells her it was good but he's tired now, and she suggests he take a nap. She joins him in the bedroom where with great relief he settles for the first time in weeks back on his own bed. He's been sleeping on a hospital bed brought to the home for his recovery before today, and now he sinks into the fresh sheets and enjoys Carmela nestling up in the bed beside him. He made it through the day, he dealt with Phil, now he's back at home in bed with his wife. Life is good, especially for a man who by all reasoning should have been dead for the last two months or so.  In the VIP room at the Bada Bing, Christopher and Patsy are enjoying getting ground on by strippers when Little Paulie comes over to motion towards two guys who are waiting at the doorway hoping to see him. Christopher says to let them in and joins them. It's Ahmed and Muhammad, the two strip club regulars, here to hand over an envelope full of cash in exchange for stolen credit card numbers. Christopher gives it to them on a memory card, cracking a joke that they don't get when he tells them not to leave home without it. They ask him to pass on their well wishes to Tony now that he's back home and hand him a basket of dates they brought as a gift. Christopher takes a call as they ask for one more favor... can he help them get TEC-9 semi-automatic rifles with extended magazines? This finally gets his attention, what the hell are they after TEC-9s for? They explain quickly it's purely a family matter, and Christopher loses focus as he goes back to the call. Ahmed and Muhammad lose focus too, eyes drinking in one of the strippers dancing on a mob captain in the background. They don't seem in any particular hurry, and Christopher clearly was more surprised than concerned, even in spite of the FBI already visiting him once over Matoush's relationship with Adriana. The next morning Carmela hurriedly walks down the driveway in her robe to collect the paper. Once a trek that Tony regularly made, today she's eager to get there on the off-chance he decided to repeat that (or more likely, to send AJ to do it), because Rosalie has called her with troubling news. The Judge's decision to send Uncle Junior to a private mental healthcare facility is being raked through the coals in the press, with the headline in the paper declaring with outrage,"CUSHY PSYCH LOCK-UP FOR "DON SQUIRREL-LEONE". Heading back up the drive, she dumps that section of the paper into the trash... DEEP in the trash in case Tony happened to go rifling through it. There's no way she is going to let her so recently recovered husband see that story and get upset. At the prison, Johnny waits for his lawyer who arrives with two Deputy U.S Marshals. The one in charge - Feathem - introduces himself and his partner Mayweather, and explain that Johnny's 6 hours outside is at their discretion: if they are given reason to do so, they will bring him back early. Johnny greets them politely, but is less polite with his lawyer. He's upset that he brought patent leather shoes to go with the tuxedo... has he read an issue of GQ in the last 3-4 years!?! Meanwhile at the Soprano home, Tony and Carmela are busily going about their own preparations for the Wedding as they count through money to be gifted to Allegra, Carmela taking careful notes. They crack a joke about Allegra's weight but both agree that TODAY she will be beautiful, because all brides are. Tony gleefully declares to Meadow, who has joined them in the kitchen, that she will be the most beautiful of all. But Meadow is more amused at their romantic language while cynically keeping records of the money they're gifting. Carmela insists it is importantly, and surprisingly when Tony declares it's so they'll know if THEY get stiffed at Meadow's wedding Carmela is quick to agree that this is absolutely the reason they're doing this. Meadow is a little perturbed by the fact they keep going back to talking about HER wedding, and Tony admits that Carmela is right about it being him who is the most keen to see her tie the knot. He asks if she and Finn have set a date yet, and makes her uneasy when he gets serious, telling her calmly but sweetly that after everything he has been through recently the thought of getting to have HER child on his lap has become very important. Meadow, not quite sure how to deal with the raw emotion of this statement, quickly leaves the kitchen, leaving Tony and Carmela behind. Carmela smiles at Tony, offering her sympathy but also her clear love: his brush with death truly cemented her own appreciation for him after the rather cynical nature of their earlier reconciliation, and the fact he's been so engaged and open since then has only made her all the happier that he lived.   At the Church, a long line waits outside, slowed down by the requirement to move through metal detectors. Johnny Sack arrives in a Government car driven by US Marshals, and though they pull into the back, he's still in plain sight as he is escorted inside, wearing a tuxedo but also handcuffed. At the front of the line, Paulie cracks wise with the Marshal reviewing the contents of his pockets, saying a small bottle of cologne he carries with him is nitroglycerine. Slow though the process may be, the church is filling up, Ginny helping Johnny's elderly father towards the front pew. Still in line, Tony walks behind Phil Leotardo and they discuss the ridiculous security measures. When Phil tells Tony that Johnny is being forced to pay for all this, he's overheard by Meadow who is aghast: the Government did that? She's outraged, and there's more to come to add to that, yet another small piece in the overall puzzle of Meadow Soprano that will end with her far from her original teenage fantasy of removing herself entirely from Tony and Carmela's world. But while everybody else is able to complete the slow process of the security inspections without much fuss, Tony faces a problem. When he sets off the metal detector despite emptying his pockets, he's scanned with a handheld wand and has another indignity heaped on him: they demand he remove his shoes. He moves outside to untie his laces, but bending down when he's already exhausted from standing in line in the heat proves too much, and he stumbles backwards. Luckily others are there to catch him, and AJ rushes to get him a chair, but the damage is done. He's fallen in front of everybody he knows, including mobsters, and ESPECIALLY including Phil Leotardo. To make matters worse, now everybody is gathering around frantically worried, bringing him water and towels to mop his head, Christopher assuring him it's not his fault, Meadow snapping angrily at the indifferent US Marshals etc. He has to sit in a chair as Dante - ever eager to help - unties his shoelaces for him, a simple task it looks like Tony is somehow physically incapable of achieving. For the Boss of a mob family, this is dangerous, dangerous territory. The drama over, the Church fills and the service proceeds without incident. The ceremony completes beautifully, and Tony and Carmela were right: Allegra is beautiful today, even if Christopher is confused as to why she has the same name as cough medicine. Johnny and Ginny watch beaming with pride, while Tony can't help but look in Meadow and Finn's direction. Also in attendance, a mildly upset looking Vito sits besides his wife who clutches his hand happily, the ceremony raising happy memories for her but mixed emotions for him.
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The wedding complete, it is time for the Reception, and it seems Rusty Millio came down on the side of not insulting Johnny by showing up. Johnny has hired out Leonard's of Great Neck in University Gardens. It's a beautiful and extremely expensive looking location for a Reception, but while Carmela is - of course - excited by the amount of money spent (after all, money is how she so often measures love) Tony has a more cynical but likely explanation: if Johnny spends it on this, it's money that can't go to the Federal Government in an asset seizure. AJ apparently has a new girlfriend, never seen before, who stands smoking and drinking but refusing to eat (she thinks there are toxins in fish). Dante arrives with drinks, having happily collected them for everybody, but Tony quietly takes onboard Dante's "joke" as he refers to Tony as "the convalescent". They all toast and take a drink though, and Vito arrives to greet Tony, compliment Meadow and, of course, unsettle Finn with a backhanded compliment. He brings up what beautiful children they have, a subject that Meadow is getting sick of hearing about, then asks Tony if he can speak with him privately for a moment. It's business, but business that puts a smile on Tony's face. He met with the guy from the planning commission as agreed, and discovered that he's in charge of ALL the contracts for the city. More importantly than that though, he's also a degenerate gambler with an obsession for horse racing, and as a result he's basically theirs for the taking. Slipping Tony an envelope of cash from a Weehawken Strip Mall, Vito has made Tony's day: here is a guy who brings in money hand over fist without any of the major issues the likes of Ralph Cifaretto brought with him. But if Vito thinks he's bulletproof because of this, he's sadly mistaken: he waves a cheerful goodbye to Carmela who waves one back to him. But his worst fear already came true: she knows that he held off on the money promised to her until Tony came out of the coma, and now she can happily wave and smile to him because she has ALREADY told Tony to be careful of Vito's motivations. The band is playing and singing covers of Sinatra as everybody gathers at the dinner tables to eat. Johnny is making the rounds, and in spite of all their many clashes, he and Tony are delighted to see each other again: Johnny (temporarily) out of prison, Tony out of the hospital, both alive and enjoying a fine night out with their families. Tony calls to AJ and motions to the wildly successful Reception, and tells him he can learn from this if he wants to be an Event Planner. AJ is utterly bewildered, an event planner? Where the hell did he get the idea AJ ever wanted to be an event planner!?! He has no memory of the time he bragged about running a succesful party, and no idea that Tony and Carmela - independent of him - decided that he might be interested in event planning and decided for themselves that was the future he was going for. Carmela congratulates Johnny on the success of the Wedding, and then the two Mob Bosses are left alone... apart from the US Marshalls not far behind. They make happy small talk, particularly about the cost, Johnny proudly admitting he spent 425k on everything NOT including the honeymoon. Tony is impressed but also slightly daunted, that means allowing for inflation he can probably expect to pay 500k for Meadow's wedding. Johnny though has perspective (today), because after all what's the point of all their "work" if they can't use it to pay for night's like this? Tony has to agree, but now that the pleasantries are over, Johnny has far less pleasing business than Vito's earlier to discuss. They take a walk, shadowed by the Marshals, as Johnny guardedly discusses in loose terms Phil bringing back Tony's refusal to kill Rusty Millio. Arriving at Johnny's father's table, they settle down among the elderly guests/relatives and pretend to chat with them while holding a conversation only for themselves, ignoring the confused questioning from the near-death Aunts. Johnny is determined to kill Rusty, and chooses oddly prophetic words: he can't let the cancer spread. He alleges again that Rusty is likely to try and rule through a puppet, and Tony makes a smart deduction of what Johnny's biggest fear is: that Rusty is going to pick Phil next time instead of somebody like Little Carmine. But if Johnny wants to get rid of Rusty, he'll have to use one of his own men and not Tony's. But Johnny can't do that, and he makes a grudging admission: Rusty SHOULD have been the new Boss when Carmine died. He didn't want it, or rather he wanted the power but not the responsibility: he thought he could rule through Little Carmine, but instead the role went to Johnny. Now Johnny finds himself in an odd position, he's the Boss of one of the Five Families but he's in prison and his position is not fully secured. If he kills Rusty and people find out, they'll view it as the act of somebody who fears better qualified rivals. Tony remains adamant, after all he doesn't want to end up in a jail cell next to Johnny's, but when Johnny brings himself right to the edge of almost begging him to do it, he wavers. Today is Allegra's wedding, but Johnny fears he won't be able to attend Catherine's, and with all those worries bowing him down he NEEDS the Rusty one to be taken away. Finally Tony capitulates, and agrees that he will do it. Johnny's relief is palpable, and he promises Tony he won't forget this. Tony, already regretting this, simply nods and leaves, walking past stone-faced US Marshals who probably are fully aware they were up to something but having nothing to prove it.   Everybody returns to their tables in preparation, as the MC announces the arrival of, for the first time, Mr and Mrs. Eric DeBenedetto. Everybody watches as Allegra and Eric share their first dance to a beautiful live rendition of At Last, none more emotional among those watching than Johnny Sacrimoni. He and Ginny join the other couples to share the dances, and Tony shocks and delights Carmela when he asks her if she would like to dance too, noting it's a slow one and he can handle that. Among the couples is Vito and Marie, but as at the service, Marie is full of joy and love while Vito looks troubled and uncertain, the only time he has looked happy all night is when he was discussing business with Tony. While the mobsters enjoy a luxurious and emotional evening on Johnny Sack's dime, Junior Soprano is all but alone as he's lead into a NEW mental healthcare facility. This one is worlds away from the private facility the newspapers were ranting about, because the Government (or at least the Judge) panicked at the terrible press coverage and immediately changed their tune. Now suddenly the importance of Junior's mental health improving to the state he can actually be tried is irrelevant, no politician is going to let anybody admit that the public system is a travesty. So they're going to do exactly what the lawyer said and warehouse him. He enters a small, crowded common room and lead into a small and bare room whose only redeeming featuring is that you can see a tree out the window. Perhaps the greater tragedy is that on this particular day, Junior is fully present, and thus absolutely aware of what is happening to him. He's been hung out to dry by an embarrassed Federal Government, dumped in a shithole where he's going to get the bare minimum of help from a painfully underfunded system. ADDENDUM: I've left the above paragraph as originally written but I absolutely, 100% COMPLETELY misinterpreted this scene, believing that Junior had been dumped in a shithole facility. As later episodes would showcase, despite the negative press Junior still got put into the "cushy" facility, though he was basically just dumped there to be forgotten about. Even his longtime friend/lawyer is gone, fired by him due to a stroke, and now he's got this practical stranger who communicates with him by talking slowly in a loud voice. Desperate, Junior insists that he didn't shoot anybody, before allowing that yes he had the gun but it went off by accident, and he'll at least cop to failing to maintain it properly. As he throws out this increasingly panicky bargaining lines, a deeper issue becomes clear: even now when clear-headed he doesn't remember shooting Tony, and the question he asks the lawyer is one really meant for himself: why would he shoot his own nephew? He grabs at the lawyer and practically weeping he cries out that he wants to go home, a place that once felt like a prison to him but now must seem like heaven. His lawyer reminds him firmly this isn't possible, promises to visit him by the end of the week, and then gets the hell out of there, obviously relieved to have this obligation dealt with. Junior Soprano is left alone, a sad old man with no children, an alienated extended family, no friends and, scariest of all, slowly losing even himself. At the wedding, Allegra dances with Johnny who can't contain his pride as the MC sings Daddy's Little Girl. Eric takes Ginny out onto the dance-floor to dance with her too, everybody gathered around thrilling to the perfect sight of the union of the families. As the Reception continues, Tony takes Christopher aside to discuss his plans for the Rusty hit and how to insulate themselves entirely from any possible fallout. He intends to fly over a couple of hitmen from Naples to get the job done and fly out within a couple of hours. Christopher listens and offers a take that surprises and irritates Tony: he thinks that's a pussy-rear end maneuver. He thinks the better choice is to do it themselves so they maintain complete control, or to just tell New York to do it themselves. Frustrated he has to explain himself, Tony tells him that Johnny asked him personally, and Christopher - who watches too many movies - thinks he understands: it's like Godfather! You can't deny a man on his wedding day! Tony did not see the conversation going this way, and finds himself unwittingly caught up in it as he reminds Christopher it was the other way around in the movie, in which case Johnny shouldn't have been able to refuse Tony. So why doesn't Tony use that to ask Johnny not to do it!? More irritated than ever, Tony reminds him they need to keep Johnny placated due to the business with Billy Leotardo being killed, and Christopher shrugs and says he doesn't think it is a good idea. REALLY irritated now, Tony reminds him that he didn't ask for his opinion, he's TELLING him what they're going to do. Phil, an unknowing player in this little drama, is enjoying himself at the dinner table with his wife as well as Marie and her children Vito Jr and Francesca. He's surprised when Vito arrives and declares they're leaving, but Marie isn't, explaining with consternation but no pushback that Vito is ALWAYS like this at weddings. That leaves Phil and Patty alone at their table, and Phil's good mood has been severely dampened, which may play a part in what is to come. The cake is brought out for the bride and groom to cut and taste, feeding each other to the crowd's happy laughter. But as Johnny watches with pleasure, Deputy Mayweather steps up beside him and warns him they need to wrap things up. Johnny is confused, he's supposed to have till 10:45pm, which will make 6 hours. Now he learns something his lawyer should have nailed immediately: that 6 hours includes the transport there AND back. His lawyer apologizes, saying he tried to push it back a little but they refused to budge. Ginny timidly asks if he can at least eat some cake, and Mayweather emotionlessly agrees that he can take a slice WITH him, but that's as far as he'll go. Feathem tells Mayweather to have John outside in 20 minutes, and Johnny is clearly prepared to make every second of that count. Sticking to the original schedule, everybody collects outside to watch Allegra and Eric make their exit. Allegra, still glowing, hugs her father and thanks him from the bottom of her heart for making this the magical night she always dreamed of. They share I love you's, and then she rushes to hug her mother, congratulating her on ALMOST making it down to her weightloss goal. She promises to call her when she lands in Hawaii, while Eric shakes Johnny's hand enthusiastically, probably understanding that he could have never given Allegra a wedding anywhere close to as perfect as this one without his new "dad" covering the bill. They climb into the waiting car after a final wave goodbye, Phil cracking a joke about Don Ho, everybody clapping and cheering, every second another closer to Johnny's limit. But he's done it, he's made it and timed it perfectly. The service, the Reception, the dance, the cake, the tearful but joyous goodbyes. He has achieved his dream of a perfect wedding for "Daddy's Little Girl", and he watches with happiness as the car drives away... and is cut off by the Marshal Transport driving in front of it sirens blaring, unwilling to give even a single second more than the agreed upon time in what feels like a deliberately cruel act. Johnny is aghast, as is the rest of the gathered crowd. The Marshals don't care, rushing over to Johnny and cuffing him, warning everybody to stay back, Mayweather straight up putting a hand on his gun when Phil demands to know if all this is really necessary. Horrified, Allegra calls out asking what is going on, and seeing that look of confused panic on his daughter's face at what should be the happiest moment of her life breaks Johnny. He bursts into tears, weeping inconsolably, surprising even Mayweather as they haul him away, Ginny calling after him... and Phil Leotardo watching his Boss go with a stoney face.   The drama isn't over though. Ginny watches her husband being hauled away in tears and has her own breakdown, literally fainting and crashing into the ground with a solid thud. Shocked, Allegra bolts out of her car to join the others in checking on her mother, her life turned upside down in that single second the US Marshals refused to allow. She should have been blissfully unaware, being driven happily to the airport with her new husband after a perfect start to their marriage. Johnny would have still been embarrassed by the Marshals arriving just after she left but nothing like this, and would have gone back to prison with a light heart, satisfied. All for the sake of a single second. More troubling is the aftermath. The mobsters gather back inside to discuss this travesty, where Phil Leotardo makes an admission all the more startling for the fact he says it in front of a different Family to the Lupertazzis. Speaking openly, with no need for the likes of Rusty Millio to give him direction, he says he isn't ashamed to admit that Johnny Sack's standing as a man fell sharply in his eyes today. Tony offers some support, the wedding of a daughter is an emotional day, but he isn't helped by his Captains not being all that sympathetic and Paulie cracking a Cinderella joke at Johnny's expense. Phil is having none of it though, if the US Marshals could make him cry like that, what else can they make him do? The implication is clear, what can they make him say? Who can they make him give up? Christopher nods and declares openly that he has to agree with Phil, infuriating Tony who growls,"Oh you do, do you?" back at him. Luckily for them all, a non-mobbed up guest passes by and notes how terrible what just happened was, and now they're all a united front including Phil, agreeing that Johnny was just emotional because he loves his daughter so much. But the cracks have shown now. Until now Phil was satisfied with his current spot, of being the go-between for Johnny and the rest of the Lupertazzis. Now he's seen a weakness in his chosen Boss, and an opportunity for himself he would have never thought possible even a year ago, and that Tony has been dreading for a long time. Marie Spatafore is up late at night watching a movie about somebody pretending to be something they're not when Vito comes out fully dressed and explains he's off to conduct some business. She's confused, this late at night? He simply tells her to go to sleep and heads out the door. Tony and Carmela meanwhile lie in bed considering the odd turns the night took. Carmela points out how lucky they have been, not just with the house and the kids but the recent hospital stay as well. Tony considers for a moment and then retorts that you make your own luck in life. Johnny Sack returns to prison, dressing quietly in his orange jumpsuit, not responding to his lawyer's promise to come by tomorrow. He walks stoically to his tiny prison cell and settles down on the bunk. He's collected again, but it's too late, the damage has already been irreparably done. A New York Associate called Sal and his partner find themselves in unfamiliar territory, as they enter a gay nightclub to confront the bartender about money he owes. Happily for him he has the cash, which they collect with distaste, looking around uncomfortably at the men dancing, embracing and kissing all around them. They move on through the crowd... and walk directly into Vito Spatafore, dressed in leather, leading a shirtless man in a leather harness towards the bar to buy him a drink. Vito, who seconds earlier was openly happy and content being truly himself after a full day of being reminded he was pretending to be something he isn't, immediately goes on the defensive. He tries to tell Sal that this is some kind of joke. They don't believe a word of it of course, asking him if he is a "fag", getting confrontational with Vito's dance partner until Vito intervenes. He insists again it is a joke, and Sal pointedly tells him to say hello to his wife when he gets home. They leave, a terrified Vito shouting after them to insist they say nothing. He returns home and collects a gun from the bedside drawer, waking Marie. He gives her a kiss and tells her to go back to sleep, he needs to take a shower. She rolls sleepily back over and dozes off, while he quietly slips out of the house and makes his way to a motel. Settling on the bed, he braces himself and then puts through a call to Silvio Dante. It's 3 in the morning and Silvio isn't happy to be woken, assuming it must be something to do with Tony. Vito, doing everything he can to sound breezy and unconcerned, says he was just calling to check in that Tony was all right himself, and a grumpy Silvio says the last he saw him he was enjoying his dessert. Vito is glad to hear it, but... uhh... is there anything else going on? There isn't, of course, so Vito tells a bleary-eyed Silvio to call his cell if he needs anything. Too tired to really grasp that something is off, Silvio goes back to sleep. In the motel, Vito considers. The call was to test the waters, see if Sal had already started talking and, if so, had it gotten to Silvio. It seems that so far it hasn't... but he knows it's only a matter of time now. His secret life has been exposed and this time not by somebody easily intimidated like Finn. He stares at his gun, alone in a motel room at 3 in the morning, his life in ruins, and considers his options.  Tony returns to therapy, where he discusses what has become his most pressing concern: his perceived weakness. He explains how he collapsed while trying to unlace his shoes before the wedding, and admits that while a lot of the people he works with are his friends, they're also "loving jackals". Even before this he'd been noticing certain looks, that his decisions were being second-guessed in a way they never were before. Melfi, who IS a good psychologist as she insisted but sometimes has surprising blind spots, fails to grasp just how truly significant what he is talking about is. She's thinking of this in terms of Tony's own self-confidence having been damaged by his weakness post-recovery, and her advice is more about shoring up his confidence than truly grasping his intent or the seriousness of his predicament. He's already seen Phil Leotardo - an rear end in a top hat for sure but also extremely loyal - openly question his Boss in front of a different Family simply for crying during one of the most emotionally draining and devastating moments of his life. He's been treated with kid gloves since he returned, people scrape out his onions for him because they hurt his tummy. He can't unlace his own shoes. Dante mothers him and openly calls him a convalescent, even Carmela referred to herself as his "mommy" at one point. Christopher called his strategy a "pussy-rear end move" and openly sided with Phil over the Johnny situation. When Melfi tells Tony to act as if he's the same old Tony and only let them see what he allows them to see. "I've been thinking the same thing" Tony agrees, and thanks her for the advice. Slightly sarcastically, she says she is happy to be of service, with no idea what decision she's just reinforced. Outside Satriale's, Bobby is playing basketball, while Christopher and Paulie get what sun they can on this overcast day. Tony nods to them as he exits the car driven by Perry, very clearly states he doesn't NEED a chair to sit on when Paulie orders Perry to grab him one, and considers his options. He eyes up Bobby, a giant but also fat, and with a grin asks him what he weighs. Bobby happily admits he's around 265, and Tony smiles and moves on. He looks at Paulie's exposed arms, he doesn't remember what Paulie said in the hospital room but he can see it for himself: the muscle definition Paulie once prided himself on is gone. Not getting what he wants her, he heads inside to the back room where Silvio, Carlo, Murmur and Dante are at the table and greet him as he arrives. Christopher, Paulie and Bobby follow him in, and he asks Silvio if he's heard from Vito since he's tried calling him twice (presumably about their new golden goose in the Planning Department) but hasn't been able to reach him. Silvio hasn't, but notes that he did get an odd call in the middle of the night. Patsy suggests he can get "Bissell" (Peter LaRosa) to make him a sandwich. Tony declines, and goes back to his inspection of the men seated at the table. Fat Bobby drinking beer. Great big Dante who is far too friendly for what he wants. Perry, covered in muscles and a real hothead. And there it is. Carefully turning his ring around, Tony mentally braces himself then steps up and demands to know what Perry's problem is. The bewildered bodyguard/driver has no idea what he means, and Tony angrily demands to know why he slammed the refrigerator door? Perry is REALLY confused now, he didn't even open the fridge, he got his coke off the counter. Oh? So he's ARGUING with Tony now, is he? Perry doesn't know how to react at all, trying his best to explain but unable to say anything that Tony can't immediately proclaim is calling HIM a liar. The others are silent now, as confused as Perry but smart enough to say nothing. Perry stands up, not confrontational, if anything he puts his hands up to show he intends no threat. With contempt, Tony smirks and looks at the others, noting,"This loving guy, huh?".... and then punches him right in the loving mouth. Perry goes down hard as the others rise to their feet with gasps of shock. Tony looms over the downed Perry, who touches the blood on his mouth and, just as Tony planned, completely loses his temper just like he always does. The others see it coming too and scream out warnings to him not to do it, as he launches himself up and at the older, fatter man... who for all his faults is thinking with PERFECT clarity right now and is absolutely prepared for the clumsy, rage-blinded lunge of a man who relies on his big muscles to win fights.  Tony puts him down brutally, trapping his swinging arm and slamming him into the fridge, delivering solid punches and knees to an unprepared stomach till he's down on his knees and then finishing him off with another hard right to the mouth. Perry goes down and stays down, the unwitting victim of Tony's shaken confidence. "YOU GOT ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY!?!" he demands of the groaning bodyguard, then casts accusing looks at the others around the table who all lower their gaze and keep their mouths shut. He's silently asked them the same question and THIS time there is no second-guessing or division. They just watched Tony beat the absolute poo poo out of a young, powerfully built man, not a single one of them is thinking of him as a convalescent anymore. He turns and walks without another word into the bathroom, affecting an air of complete disdain, hard breathing the only sign of any physical exertion. The door closing is the cue of the others to take action, as they move to help Perry up and figure out what to do with him now. Inside the bathroom, Tony stops to look in the mirror. Melfi's semi-bemused talk about Alpha Males and not showing vulnerability reinforced an idea that Tony already had and probably would have done anyway. But she was more accurate than she knew. Tony's idea of re-establishing his status is built on an incredibly toxic understanding of masculinity, but sadly an accurate one for the audience this whole farce was designed for. Johnny Sack cried when his daughter's wedding was ruined, and a man with a lifetime history of utter loyalty turned on him immediately. Tony decided he couldn't be seen as anything other than a powerful, virile man who is NEVER to be questioned, and he achieved it through unnecessary brutality and violence. He never doubted his friends liked him, but he also never doubted they would take advantage of weakness. What he has shown them is his version of strength, and now he can feel satisf- He suddenly lurches from the mirror to the toilet and vomits copiously. Who knows what internal damage he has done to his still healing body, but the vomit is an unpleasant shade of red. It's insane, he's a middle-aged overweight man who only six weeks earlier came out of a coma AND surgery AND had to work himself up to walking for more than a few minutes without getting exhausted, and he just got into a fistfight with a young bull of a man? Tony staggers back to his feet and back over to the sink, washing out his mouth and looking back into the mirror. He can't help but laugh, both at the absurdity of the situation but also over the fact that, for good or bad, his adrenalin is pumping and he feels alive. "You make your own luck" he told Carmela, and right now he feels like he's very lucky indeed. He survived a second assassination attempt, he isn't in jail, he can still fight, he's still HIMSELF.... and then he's launching himself at the bathroom again to vomit up a fresh batch of bloody vomit.   Adrenalin rush or no, Tony Soprano may be alive and think he's forging his own destiny, but let's not mistake one fact: he IS very, very lucky. 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I like the Tony fight because it’s anime as gently caress
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