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oxsnard posted:His net worth is probably negative, as he needs to keep debt payments up to not default. It's a very different situation from Bloomberg I would imagine Trump LLC is on the hook for all that debt, not Trump himself. Obviously he has some personal assets as collateral for some debt, but he'd still be pretty drat well off even if is "empire" went down in flames. EDIT: Tax.
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 20:43 |
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Kamala getting primaried by Steyer would be loving hilarious tbh
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 20:58 |
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Nairbo posted:Kamala getting primaried by Steyer would be loving hilarious tbh Because of the jungle primary system in California the most likely outcome would be Harris and Steyer facing off in the general.
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 21:05 |
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I mean we all laugh at Steyer, but based solely on his issues page, he'd come in to the left of 90% of the senate
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 21:06 |
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Groovelord Neato posted:It was great seeing her just ignore McCain but her health care plan doesn't raise enough and caving to the no tax on the middle class bullshit is disqualifying. She has to get elected. Just like that....disqualified. interesting
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 21:16 |
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oxsnard posted:I mean we all laugh at Steyer, but based solely on his issues page, he'd come in to the left of 90% of the senate Maybe Feinstein will wake up and realize she belongs nowhere near the Senate, immediately resign, and spend her time just telling telling her own grandkids that they're dumbshits who don't know how things work.
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 21:20 |
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Gyges posted:Maybe Feinstein will wake up and realize she belongs nowhere near the Senate, immediately resign, and spend her time just telling telling her own grandkids that they're dumbshits who don't know how things work.
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 21:20 |
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Kraftwerk posted:Is there any truth to Dems potentially losing a lot of house seats if Bernie is at the top of the ticket? Log off for like two weeks, man. You keep up with these chicken little posts believing all the negative nonsense out there you won't do anyone any good.
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 21:29 |
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Nate Silver posted:Biden, for instance, would be a heavy favorite if he wins Iowa, with an 80 percent chance of a delegate majority and an 84 percent chance of a plurality. His majority chances would fall to 20 percent following an Iowa loss, however. Sanders would be a slight favorite to win a majority after an Iowa win, with a 61 percent chance, but his majority chances would fall to 8 percent with a loss there. Warren would also be a slight favorite to win a delegate majority after an Iowa win, but Buttigieg would not be (although his position would be substantially strengthened). drawkcab si eman ym fucked around with this message at 21:40 on Jan 11, 2020 |
# ? Jan 11, 2020 21:38 |
They're desperate for a way to turbofuck Sanders out of the nomination, even if it means another 4 years of Trump.
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 22:24 |
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https://twitter.com/normmacdonald/status/1215024931383103488?s=20
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 23:06 |
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Trump isn't a billionaire and never was but he's still stupidly wealthy (his highest net worth was realistically in the 100-250 million dollar range) and there's a point where no matter how much you gently caress up you can't actually be out on the street. Plus his people were smart enough to put most of his personal debt into companies that went bankrupt. He's probably making the most money he ever has now that taxpayer dollars go directly to his companies. Bloomberg being 100 times wealthier than Trump ever was is a knock against Bloomberg. Especially since he got rich in any even stupider way.
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 23:09 |
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What I hope for is despite all of this obvious attempts at ratfucking that if Sanders or Warren or both manage to decisively beat Biden and Pete that it forces the establishment to grudgingly throw their weight behind them for the general so we avoid all of the "my candidate or bust" nonsense of the last election.
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 23:19 |
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Raenir Salazar posted:What I hope for is despite all of this obvious attempts at ratfucking that if Sanders or Warren or both manage to decisively beat Biden and Pete that it forces the establishment to grudgingly throw their weight behind them for the general so we avoid all of the "my candidate or bust" nonsense of the last election. That happens every election. How quickly people forget the PUMAs. Also Bernie or Bust.
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 23:24 |
This is a weird endorsement video but she makes some good points and maybe will appeal to people who wouldn't otherwise consider Sanders? https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1215307665037037573 IDK man, I've lost the ability to parse so much of what happens now.
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 23:25 |
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Endorsements are good, that's it. No need to overthink
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 23:28 |
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oxsnard posted:Endorsements are good, that's it. No need to overthink She's also a famous internet person I think? So that means any messages she sends out on Instagram or twitter won't be censored, like it could on TV. Politics becoming trendy is the best possible situation. Even if the fad runs out after the election, this is such a pivotal time for our country.
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 23:34 |
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I love Norm as a comedian, but I always thought of him as a conservative (he’s always claimed to be apolitical but his general biases seemed to lean that way). So going #YangGang is kind of a step up for him and it warms my heart a little. e: unless this is just him making a trademark bad joke sarcastically rather than sincerely. I don’t even know anymore.
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 23:37 |
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Cpt_Obvious posted:She's also a famous internet person I think? So that means any messages she sends out on Instagram or twitter won't be censored, like it could on TV. I'm gonna have flashbacks to the "Vote or Die" and MoveOn stuff from 2004. That poo poo was corporate sponsored messaging masquerading as grassroots though
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 23:38 |
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oxsnard posted:I'm gonna have flashbacks to the "Vote or Die" and MoveOn stuff from 2004. That poo poo was corporate sponsored messaging masquerading as grassroots though If p-Diddy needs to act like a complete moron on national television to get president Bernie, so be it.
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 23:43 |
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Warren has a new bankruptcy plan that is actually pretty good.
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 23:50 |
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Buttigieg only had high high hopes for a minute.
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 23:54 |
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sports posted:Buttigieg only had high high hopes for a minute.
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 23:56 |
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mcmagic posted:Warren has a new bankruptcy plan that is actually pretty good.
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# ? Jan 11, 2020 23:58 |
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:she also crossed a picket line in Nevada twice to stay at a hotel whose workers were on strike Culinary v Stations is one of those things that has been going on forever and ever, including Culinary holding protests at the headquarters of UFC when they had the same ownership. Culinary is one of the most well financed political players, could have bought Warren accommodations at another hotel if they really cared, and will probably endorse Anyone But Bernie because they’re concerned about M4A reducing labor’s need for the Union. https://twitter.com/meganmesserly/status/1216066285697503232 Like when I keep telling progressives here that unions aren’t always their friend, southern Nevada Culinary is the one I keep bringing up. They keep endorsing and electing shitlibs over progressives over and over. They also gave us Representative Horsford over two progressives in a primary some years ago. They are closer aligned to capital than a general community wellbeing.
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# ? Jan 12, 2020 00:01 |
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Built 4 Cuban Linux posted:Biden and Pete are going to try and drag Bernie down somehow, though I don't really know how'd they'd do it They're going to shout "Gun control Brady bill" a thousand times
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# ? Jan 12, 2020 00:04 |
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Craptacular! posted:
I don't care if the union does things I disagree with. That doesn't make it ok to undermine them when they're negotiating with capital.
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# ? Jan 12, 2020 00:04 |
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"there are no bad unions" is something I struggle with because there are some seriously hosed up and corrupt unions
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# ? Jan 12, 2020 00:05 |
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I was hoping I read that wrong, because the idea of the union buying different accommodations is absurd.
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# ? Jan 12, 2020 00:05 |
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oxsnard posted:"there are no bad unions" is something I struggle with because there are some seriously hosed up and corrupt unions I know the police union is appropriately monstrous, what are some of the others?
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# ? Jan 12, 2020 00:07 |
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kidkissinger posted:This is loving stupid. "If the union cares so much about people crossing their picket lines, why don't they pay for people to use another service?" Isn’t that exactly what unions want? Like when grocery store workers are striking they would prefer you go to a competitor rather than cross their picket line to shop at their store that they are currently on strike from.
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# ? Jan 12, 2020 00:08 |
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oxsnard posted:"there are no bad unions" is something I struggle with because there are some seriously hosed up and corrupt unions Is there a single police union that’s good?
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# ? Jan 12, 2020 00:08 |
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Judakel posted:I was hoping I read that wrong, because the idea of the union buying different accommodations is absurd. You’re right, but at the end of the day they’re more likely to endorse an incremental health plan like Warren’s regardless of picket lines because they’re with management in good healthcare being conditional to employment. But I also have become somewhat inoculated against labor protests since moving to Las Vegas. There’s a “SHAME ON (OUTFIT)” banner and two boomers in lawn chairs anywhere in the valley every two weeks. We’re a long way from the heydays of the years-long picket of the New Frontier as great moments in labor go.
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# ? Jan 12, 2020 00:09 |
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This is good news and I hope Sanders doesn't stop him https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/11/us/politics/michael-bloomberg-spending.html quote:Michael Bloomberg Is Open to Spending $1 Billion to Defeat Trump
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# ? Jan 12, 2020 00:09 |
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Kith posted:I know the police union is appropriately monstrous, what are some of the others? Longshoremen in some cities are very bad. I have observed some stuff from the "management side" so feel free to throw my observation in the trash. (I've always been pro union, but became more fervent about it after this particular job fwiw)
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# ? Jan 12, 2020 00:11 |
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RasperFat posted:Isn’t that exactly what unions want? yes, it's the part where he suggests the union should be paying for it that is the incredibly stupid part. do notice that he's now just trying to convince us that "actually it's ok because this union endorses politicians that are bad" which is ridiculous. we don't give up solidarity that easily.
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# ? Jan 12, 2020 00:13 |
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Unions are full of people and sometimes people are lovely, and there's plenty of cases where union leadership is colluding with management. But unions are still the best tool available for reducing the power disparity between labor and capital and you work with the tools you have.
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# ? Jan 12, 2020 00:13 |
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As far as second choice button for candidates who are not viable in a particular caucus, isn't Bernie generally second choice for Biden voters? And Biden's the one looking to come in under 15% Though honestly any attempt to extrapolate second choice nonviable candidates based on general polling is a fools errand. Each candidate is going to be very popular in specific locations and the distribution of supporters will not be even
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# ? Jan 12, 2020 00:17 |
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kidkissinger posted:yes, it's the part where he suggests the union should be paying for it that is the incredibly stupid part. Ah okay Warren’s campaign should have plenty of money to pay for a new hotel themselves. But we do need union reforms in this country. Aren’t there some counterproductive rules about who’s allowed to lead unions, especially public ones?
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# ? Jan 12, 2020 00:17 |
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kidkissinger posted:yes, it's the part where he suggests the union should be paying for it that is the incredibly stupid part. It’s a stupid passage of a rant that I’ve had for years. Progressives thinking the Union here is on their side are just not correct. I try not to let that color my opinion of unions as a whole. There are good and bad unions, and the local union has had good and bad leadership over the decades, but it is my belief, from both meeting the leader (we went to the same caucus one year) as well as having supported candidates opposing their candidates in primaries, that as it is currently constructed it is neoliberals to the core.
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# ? Jan 12, 2020 00:20 |