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Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.
What's a good free app to check CPU temps on mid 2014 Macbook Pro Retina?

The fan goes overdrive sometimes and I'm wondering if replacing the thermal paste will help. Seems simple enough. Could be a good weekend project. I can also redo the thermal paste in my PS4 if I buy a new tube of premium "paste."

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Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Howard Phillips posted:

What's a good free app to check CPU temps on mid 2014 Macbook Pro Retina?

The fan goes overdrive sometimes and I'm wondering if replacing the thermal paste will help. Seems simple enough. Could be a good weekend project. I can also redo the thermal paste in my PS4 if I buy a new tube of premium "paste."

Intel Power Gadget

American McGay
Feb 28, 2010

by sebmojo
iStat should work with the free version.

Pivo
Aug 20, 2004


American McGay posted:

iStat should work with the free version.

iStat Menus displays frequency and other rich info only if Intel Power Gadget is installed so it's still a great first step

Mister Speaker
May 8, 2007

WE WILL CONTROL
ALL THAT YOU SEE
AND HEAR
Any ideas why my HDD icons on my desktop are migrating to a different monitor every time I shut down and start up again? They never used to move but since I connected my LG TV they're moving on startup... but not to the LG TV. I have three monitors (two IPSLEDs, one 4K sitting above them, plus the TV across the room). Normally the HDD icons sit on the right IPSLED but they've started moving to the 4K monitor up top on startup. I'd like this not to happen, because it looks dumb.

Pivo
Aug 20, 2004


When you go into System Preferences -> Displays -> Arrangement, you should be able to drag the white menu bar (displayed on one of the displays) to the display of your choice. That signifies your primary display. I would wager that will change where your desktop icons go. This setting should persist, until it doesn't.

Mister Speaker
May 8, 2007

WE WILL CONTROL
ALL THAT YOU SEE
AND HEAR
I already tried that; the menu bar is on the right IPSLED display - the one the icons are supposed to stick to, but it doesn't keep them there.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




TACD posted:

…yea, the fact this didn't occur to me is probably part of my problem
This actually looks perfect, thanks! Though I think I'll try the analog route first in this case.

I just retired my physical stickies on the monitor and Kanban-style on my cube walls in favor of Trello.com cards.

This is the way.

Mister Speaker
May 8, 2007

WE WILL CONTROL
ALL THAT YOU SEE
AND HEAR
Not sure if this is a question more appropriate for one of the TV/entertainment centre threads, but I just got an NVidia Shield and I'm having trouble accessing its Plex server from my Mac.

The idea is I've got two HDDs in a Mediasonic ProBox that I pried from an old Mac Pro 1,1 tower I was using as my media centre. The drives are full of movies and TV shows of various quality. They play just fine on the Shield via Plex, there's no problem there. The issue I'm having is that I can't seem to access their contents over my network from my Mac. I want to be able to download new content and drop it on there. I can see the HDDs in the ProBox on my network, but I can't add or change their content.

We tried my roommate's PC and indeed it can see and add content to the drives just fine, so the issue is with my Mac's handling of the SMB protocol. Is there a solution that doesn't force me to unplug the drive and connect it to my computer every time I want to add new content?

virinvictus
Nov 10, 2014
SetApp is my new favourite Mac purchase of this year.

qutius
Apr 2, 2003
NO PARTIES

Mister Speaker posted:

Not sure if this is a question more appropriate for one of the TV/entertainment centre threads, but I just got an NVidia Shield and I'm having trouble accessing its Plex server from my Mac.

The idea is I've got two HDDs in a Mediasonic ProBox that I pried from an old Mac Pro 1,1 tower I was using as my media centre. The drives are full of movies and TV shows of various quality. They play just fine on the Shield via Plex, there's no problem there. The issue I'm having is that I can't seem to access their contents over my network from my Mac. I want to be able to download new content and drop it on there. I can see the HDDs in the ProBox on my network, but I can't add or change their content.

We tried my roommate's PC and indeed it can see and add content to the drives just fine, so the issue is with my Mac's handling of the SMB protocol. Is there a solution that doesn't force me to unplug the drive and connect it to my computer every time I want to add new content?

Are the drives with the plex content NTFS? That's likely why your mac can't write data to them.

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

I think they're connecting a Mac to a storage device over SMB, not connecting it directly to the Mac (ideally anyway). Are you authenticating as a specific user over SMB or as a guest? Macs generally do okay with SMB these days. this sounds like a permission thing.

Crunchy Black
Oct 24, 2017

by Athanatos
Yeah, wait, what!? You have a USB HDD(s) connected to a Shield trying to host them? That's not what that bit of hardware is designed to do, boss.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Crunchy Black posted:

Yeah, wait, what!? You have a USB HDD(s) connected to a Shield trying to host them? That's not what that bit of hardware is designed to do, boss.

The Shield/Shield Pro can be configured to use USB3 storage for a media/PLEX library. You can also set it up to use network mounted drives/NAS. At least it could as of the 2017 hardware.

EDIT: OK, I will concede you needed to install ES-File-Explorer for the keep-alive so the USB didn't go to sleep. Still super simple to set up drive on USB to be used with PLEX on the Shield.

Proteus Jones fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Jan 9, 2020

beuges
Jul 4, 2005
fluffy bunny butterfly broomstick
Figured this belongs here more than the Windows thread. I need to remote into my Mac from Windows 10 on my home LAN. Currently using VNC Viewer client on Windows and the built-in VNC server in Catalina, but it's a little slow for my liking. Is there a better set of applications that would give a snappier result? Ideally free, but I don't mind paying as long as it's not extortion.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



Jump Desktop is great.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

I like Jump Desktop. Support multiple protocols and has their own remote connection protocol too. It’s free if going from Windows to Mac, costs going the other way around.


https://jumpdesktop.com/

beuges
Jul 4, 2005
fluffy bunny butterfly broomstick
Thanks, just installed jump desktop and it seems a lot smoother.

Spikeness
Dec 4, 2009
I am sexually aroused by the thought of a 12 year old video game character in a bikini, just fy
Is it possible at all to have apple mail just read whats in my icloud email or does it always have to stay synced and have copies on all devices?

mike12345
Jul 14, 2008

"Whether the Earth was created in 7 days, or 7 actual eras, I'm not sure we'll ever be able to answer that. It's one of the great mysteries."





My mother's brand new macbook pro occasionally crashes, this time I took a look at the report


quote:

panic(cpu 2 caller 0xffffff80072284e7): "ATY,Boa::setPowerState(0xffffff81b67af000 : 0xffffff7f8a79e056, 1 -> 0) timed out after 45549 ms"@/BuildRoot/Library/Caches/com.apple.xbs/Sources/xnu/xnu-6153.61.1/iokit/Kernel/IOServicePM.cpp:5302
Backtrace (CPU 2), Frame : Return Address
0xffffff922be73b40 : 0xffffff8006b3bb1b
0xffffff922be73b90 : 0xffffff8006c733e5
0xffffff922be73bd0 : 0xffffff8006c64e5e
0xffffff922be73c20 : 0xffffff8006ae2a40
0xffffff922be73c40 : 0xffffff8006b3b207
0xffffff922be73d40 : 0xffffff8006b3b5eb
0xffffff922be73d90 : 0xffffff80072d24f9
0xffffff922be73e00 : 0xffffff80072284e7
0xffffff922be73e50 : 0xffffff80072280a9
0xffffff922be73e60 : 0xffffff800723f45e
0xffffff922be73ea0 : 0xffffff8007226e58
0xffffff922be73ec0 : 0xffffff8006b7d765
0xffffff922be73f40 : 0xffffff8006b7d291
0xffffff922be73fa0 : 0xffffff8006ae213e

BSD process name corresponding to current thread: kernel_task
Boot args: chunklist-security-epoch=0 -chunklist-no-rev2-dev

Mac OS version:
19C57

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 19.2.0: Sat Nov 9 03:47:04 PST 2019; root:xnu-6153.61.1~20/RELEASE_X86_64
Kernel UUID: C3E7E405-C692-356B-88D3-C30041FD1E72
Kernel slide: 0x0000000006800000
Kernel text base: 0xffffff8006a00000
__HIB text base: 0xffffff8006900000
System model name: MacBookPro16,1 (Mac-E1008331FDC96864)
System shutdown begun: NO

System uptime in nanoseconds: 38672314213103
last loaded kext at 38083476823172: >usb.IOUSBHostHIDDevice 1.2 (addr 0xffffff7f8aba4000, size 45056)
last unloaded kext at 38145609392641: >!UAudio 320.49 (addr 0xffffff7f8de53000, size 434176)
loaded kexts:
@kext.AMDRadeonX6000 3.0.4
@kext.AMDRadeonServiceManager 3.0.4
> !AGraphicsDevicePolicy 4.5.21
@fileutil 20.036.15
@AGDCPluginDisplayMetrics 4.5.21
> !AHV 1
|IOUserEthernet 1.0.1
|IO!BSerialManager 7.0.2f4
> !AUpstreamUserClient 3.6.8
> AGPM 111.4.1
> !APlatformEnabler 2.7.0d0
> X86PlatformShim 1.0.0
> pmtelemetry 1
> AGDCBacklightControl 4.5.21
> !A!IKBLGraphics 14.0.3
@Dont_Steal_Mac_OS_X 7.0.0
> !AThunderboltIP 3.1.3
> BridgeAudioCommunication 6.60
> !AMCCSControl 1.13
> !AMuxControl2 4.5.21
> !ATopCaseHIDEventDriver 3420.1
> !AHIDALSService 1
> !ABridgeAudio!C 6.60
> !AGFXHDA 100.1.422
> !A!IPCHPMC 2.0.1
> !A!ICFLGraphicsFramebuffer 14.0.3
> !A!ISlowAdaptiveClocking 4.0.0
> !AAVEBridge 6.1
@filesystems.autofs 3.0
> BCMWLANFirmware4355.Hashstore 1
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> BCMWLANFirmware4377.Hashstore 1
> !ABCMWLANBusInterfacePCIe 1
@filesystems.hfs.kext 522.0.9
@BootCache 40
@!AFSCompression.!AFSCompressionTypeDataless 1.0.0d1
@!AFSCompression.!AFSCompressionTypeZlib 1.0.0
> !AVirtIO 1.0
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@private.KextAudit 1.0
> !ASmartBatteryManager 161.0.0
> !AACPIButtons 6.1
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> !AAPIC 1.7
$!AImage4 1
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$TMSafetyNet 8
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|EndpointSecurity 1
@kext.AMDRadeonX6100HWLibs 1.0
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|IOAVB!F 800.17
> !ASSE 1.0
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> !AHIDKeyboard 209
> !AActuatorDriver 3420.2
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> IO!BHIDDriver 7.0.2f4
> !AMultitouchDriver 3420.2
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> IOPlatformPlugin!F 6.0.0d8
|IO!BHost!CUARTTransport 7.0.2f4
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> !AOnboardSerial 1.0
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|IOEthernetAVB!C 1.1.0
@kext.triggers 1.0
> usb.cdc.ncm 5.0.0
> usb.cdc 5.0.0
> usb.networking 5.0.0
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> !ABCMWLANCore 1.0.0
> mDNSOffloadUserClient 1.0.1b8
> IOImageLoader 1.0.0
|IO80211!FV2 1200.12.2b1
> corecapture 1.0.4
|IOSkywalk!F 1
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@filesystems.hfs.encodings.kext 1
|IOAudio!F 300.2
@vecLib.kext 1.2.0
|IOSerial!F 11
> usb.!UVHCIBCE 1.2
> usb.!UVHCI 1.2
> usb.!UVHCICommonBCE 1.0
> usb.!UVHCICommon 1.0
> !AEffaceableNOR 1.0
|IOBufferCopy!C 1.1.0
|IOBufferCopyEngine!F 1
|IONVMe!F 2.1.0
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> !AThunderboltDPInAdapter 6.2.4
> !AThunderboltDPAdapter!F 6.2.4
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> !A!ILpssI2C 3.0.60
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|IOThunderbolt!F 7.4.7
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> usb.!UXHCI 1.2
> !AEFINVRAM 2.1
> !AEFIRuntime 2.1
> !ASMCRTC 1.0
|IOSMBus!F 1.1
|IOHID!F 2.0.0
$quarantine 4
$sandbox 300.0
@kext.!AMatch 1.0.0d1
> !AKeyStore 2
> !UTDM 489.60.3
|IOSCSIBlockCommandsDevice 422.0.2
> !ACredentialManager 1.0
> KernelRelayHost 1
> !ASEPManager 1.0.1
> IOSlaveProcessor 1
> !AFDEKeyStore 28.30
> !AEffaceable!S 1.0
> !AMobileFileIntegrity 1.0.5
@kext.CoreTrust 1
|CoreAnalytics!F 1
|IOTimeSync!F 800.14
|IONetworking!F 3.4
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|IO!S!F 2.1
|IOUSBHost!F 1.2
> usb.!UCommon 1.0
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> !ABusPower!C 1.0
|IOReport!F 47
> !AACPIPlatform 6.1
> !ASMC 3.1.9
> watchdog 1
|IOPCI!F 2.9
|IOACPI!F 1.4
@kec.pthread 1
@kec.corecrypto 1.0
@kec.Libm 1

Anyone know what's up?

Crunchy Black
Oct 24, 2017

by Athanatos

Proteus Jones posted:

The Shield/Shield Pro can be configured to use USB3 storage for a media/PLEX library. You can also set it up to use network mounted drives/NAS. At least it could as of the 2017 hardware.

EDIT: OK, I will concede you needed to install ES-File-Explorer for the keep-alive so the USB didn't go to sleep. Still super simple to set up drive on USB to be used with PLEX on the Shield.

Okay I misunderstood. I thought you were trying to host a Plex library for *other devices* to access with a Shield. Carry on.

Dicty Bojangles
Apr 14, 2001

The Shield keeps any usb storage awake just fine without needing any help. Maybe this wasn't the case before but it hasn't been an issue for mine in the entire time I have owned it.

American McGay
Feb 28, 2010

by sebmojo

mike12345 posted:

My mother's brand new macbook pro occasionally crashes, this time I took a look at the report


Anyone know what's up?
Hold down D during boot to enter diagnostic mode and see if it comes up with anything. I was getting kernel panics which turned out to be a bad stick of ram.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Crunchy Black posted:

Okay I misunderstood. I thought you were trying to host a Plex library for *other devices* to access with a Shield. Carry on.

No, I think I misunderstood what they were trying to do. You're correct, the Shield won't act like a NAS without some serious loving around with it.


Dicty Bojangles posted:

The Shield keeps any usb storage awake just fine without needing any help. Maybe this wasn't the case before but it hasn't been an issue for mine in the entire time I have owned it.

It could be. It's probably been about two years since I've used mine since I found the video quality and overall responsiveness lacking compared to my ATV 4K, so I'm sure there have been improvements and bug fixes since then.

Generic Monk
Oct 31, 2011

how do you update macos to point updates if you've used the dosdude patcher? i've been stuck on 10.15.0 since i updated

Mister Speaker
May 8, 2007

WE WILL CONTROL
ALL THAT YOU SEE
AND HEAR
Near as I and a very knowledgeable buddy can tell, my issue with the Shield / Plex / external HDDs holding Movies & TV boils down to my Mac OS not playing nice with the SMB1 protocol (whether it's the Shield or the Mac that's not playing nice, using an outdated version of the protocol I don't know). I had him poke around on my desktop with Teamviewer after confirming that my roommate's PC can in fact access the HDDs connected to the Shield no problem, and that was his assertion.

So we moved on to an OS update, in hopes that a newer version of OSX would handle the SMB protocol in a way that works with the Shield. This is long overdue anyway, since I'm a luddite on Sierra (fears of updates breaking my creative software, plugin libraries, etc.). Unfortunately since this is a Mac Pro 5,1 I'm hitting a wall at "High Sierra requires a firmware update" to proceed. We've reset the PRAM/NVRAM, the SMC, disconnected all peripherals and the update seems to take, but I'm still met with the same "High Sierra requires a firmware update" screen on relaunching the app. Buddy suspects the culprit may be my GPU, which is a Radeon Sapphire RX 580 - it's not explicitly on the list on High Sierra's page for Metal-supported cards, but some similar models are and buddy asserted that it should be fine since "all the Radeon cards support that anyway."

I'm not sure what to do here, I kind of feel dead in the water. Totally comfortable staying on Sierra for the rest of my computer's natural life, and we're not even sure if updating the OS will make it play nice with the Shield. The other comedy option would be installing something like Windows via Boot Camp and using that as a backdoor to drop movies & TV shows onto the Shield's HDDs.

Of course, as at least one of you has noted I'm sort of using the idea of Plex completely backwards anyway and probably would not have these issues if the HDDs were connected tHe RiGhT wAy, directly to my computer for the Shield to access via the network. There are a couple of issues with this, namely that I'd rather not have my beefy work machine on all the time to wake just so I can watch some lovely movie when I come home drunk... But moreso to how possible it is: I am almost out of USB ports, a 10-port hub AND a four-port USB3.1 PCI card are completely occupied, this computer already has eight hard drives plus a ProRAID connected to it for backup, and perhaps most importantly, I'm also completely out of AC outlets.

Mister Speaker fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Jan 14, 2020

MarxCarl
Jul 18, 2003

Generic Monk posted:

how do you update macos to point updates if you've used the dosdude patcher? i've been stuck on 10.15.0 since i updated

Under Mojave, the updates would just show up like normal, but always later than my non-patched Mac, or I'd download the patcher and run it.

I would recommend a full backup before the update, and having a current dosdude installer USB stick available, as I would sometimes have to redo the post installs to get things back up and running.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



Mister Speaker posted:

Near as I and a very knowledgeable buddy can tell, my issue with the Shield / Plex / external HDDs holding Movies & TV boils down to my Mac OS not playing nice with the SMB1 protocol (whether it's the Shield or the Mac that's not playing nice, using an outdated version of the protocol I don't know). I had him poke around on my desktop with Teamviewer after confirming that my roommate's PC can in fact access the HDDs connected to the Shield no problem, and that was his assertion.

If anything, support in newer OS' has dropped SMB access even further, and you'll have to do some meddling in Terminal that will hopefully get it working again.

I had to run this line

code:
sudo defaults write /Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/com.apple.smb.server SigningRequired -bool FALSE
for an iOS app to talk to my Mac again, but it's likely to be a different but related thing if you're trying to read from another device to the Mac.

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

Mister Speaker posted:

Near as I and a very knowledgeable buddy can tell, my issue with the Shield / Plex / external HDDs holding Movies & TV boils down to my Mac OS not playing nice with the SMB1 protocol (whether it's the Shield or the Mac that's not playing nice, using an outdated version of the protocol I don't know). I had him poke around on my desktop with Teamviewer after confirming that my roommate's PC can in fact access the HDDs connected to the Shield no problem, and that was his assertion.

So we moved on to an OS update, in hopes that a newer version of OSX would handle the SMB protocol in a way that works with the Shield. This is long overdue anyway, since I'm a luddite on Sierra (fears of updates breaking my creative software, plugin libraries, etc.). Unfortunately since this is a Mac Pro 5,1 I'm hitting a wall at "High Sierra requires a firmware update" to proceed. We've reset the PRAM/NVRAM, the SMC, disconnected all peripherals and the update seems to take, but I'm still met with the same "High Sierra requires a firmware update" screen on relaunching the app. Buddy suspects the culprit may be my GPU, which is a Radeon Sapphire RX 580 - it's not explicitly on the list on High Sierra's page for Metal-supported cards, but some similar models are and buddy asserted that it should be fine since "all the Radeon cards support that anyway."

I'm not sure what to do here, I kind of feel dead in the water. Totally comfortable staying on Sierra for the rest of my computer's natural life, and we're not even sure if updating the OS will make it play nice with the Shield. The other comedy option would be installing something like Windows via Boot Camp and using that as a backdoor to drop movies & TV shows onto the Shield's HDDs.

Of course, as at least one of you has noted I'm sort of using the idea of Plex completely backwards anyway and probably would not have these issues if the HDDs were connected tHe RiGhT wAy, directly to my computer for the Shield to access via the network. There are a couple of issues with this, namely that I'd rather not have my beefy work machine on all the time to wake just so I can watch some lovely movie when I come home drunk... But moreso to how possible it is: I am almost out of USB ports, a 10-port hub AND a four-port USB3.1 PCI card are completely occupied, this computer already has eight hard drives plus a ProRAID connected to it for backup, and perhaps most importantly, I'm also completely out of AC outlets.

Sierra did have some issues with SMB I believe so your course of action seems reasonable.

Haven’t messed with the old Mac Pros in a while but I vaguely remember that for some reason you might need the original GPU installed in order to flash the firmware successfully.

Fake edit: maybe this will help, it’s for Mojave, but does involve using the high Sierra boot rom flashing thing: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/mp5-1-what-you-have-to-do-to-upgrade-to-mojave-bootrom-upgrade-instructions-thread.2142418/

Binary Badger
Oct 11, 2005

Trolling Link for a decade


Did you follow the exact instructions? When you see that screen:



You shut it down, and wait for the power light to go off. Then, when you power it up, you press and hold the power button until you hear a tone; you don't let go until you see the power light start to blink rapidly; then there may be a thermometer on the screen and the optical drive tray will open; you know the update has been successful when the drive tray closes by itself.

If you decide to go to Mojave, you'll have to do the same thing again, except if you don't have a Mojave GPU installed, it'll refuse to install.

That Sapphire RX580 will definitely work with Mojave, but I believe as LC says you must have the original GPU installed (or one with a supported EFI ROM) just to get HS to install.

You also might have to reformat your main hard drive as if it's corrupted in any way, it will interfere with the special boot loader the system installer has to write to do the firmware upgrade.

Binary Badger fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Jan 15, 2020

Binary Badger
Oct 11, 2005

Trolling Link for a decade


Generic Monk posted:

how do you update macos to point updates if you've used the dosdude patcher? i've been stuck on 10.15.0 since i updated

Download a newer installer (current is 10.15.2), install it on a USB drive, then run the latest patcher on that drive and boot the installer and install over your current if I'm not mistaken.

There's also something that's being worked on called OpenCore that will allow you to use point updates as if you had a supported machine, but it requires keeping a Mojave boot drive installed to work properly.

Binary Badger fucked around with this message at 03:20 on Jan 15, 2020

Mister Speaker
May 8, 2007

WE WILL CONTROL
ALL THAT YOU SEE
AND HEAR

Binary Badger posted:

You shut it down, and wait for the power light to go off. Then, when you power it up, you press and hold the power button until you hear a tone; you don't let go until you see the power light start to blink rapidly; then there may be a thermometer on the screen and the optical drive tray will open; you know the update has been successful when the drive tray closes by itself.

Yes I was very attentive to the exact instructions. Waited a bit after the power light went off, held power button until light flashed and tone played. I don't have an optical drive anymore, both those bays hold SSDs. I didn't see a thermometer icon on the screen either. We even removed all peripherals except for one monitor and my keyboard, reset NVRAM/PRAM and SMC, and tried the process again, to no avail.

The GPU is the only thing I can think of, although your comment about the boot drive (a 1TB SSD on the PCI bus) has me a bit worried as well... First Aid shows no problems with the boot drive, is it possible there's some hidden corruption? I wish I had the original GPU lying around somewhere to suss this out. Anyway like I said upgrading is not a huge concern for me especially since the only reason I'd be doing it is to fix this SMB issue - and I don't even know that it'll do that, given some others' comments here.

EL BROMANCE posted:

I had to run this line

code:
sudo defaults write /Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/com.apple.smb.server SigningRequired -bool FALSE
for an iOS app to talk to my Mac again, but it's likely to be a different but related thing if you're trying to read from another device to the Mac.

I ran this code by buddy and he said it was worth a try, but alas, still no joy. I'm far from a code monkey, can you think of any variations on that line that might work?

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

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No clue sorry, and it didn't fix the connection from my Kodi install running on a firestick (which previously worked) so i'll probably do some more digging around at some point, if I find anything that sounds useful I'll let you know.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Mister Speaker posted:

Yes I was very attentive to the exact instructions. Waited a bit after the power light went off, held power button until light flashed and tone played. I don't have an optical drive anymore, both those bays hold SSDs. I didn't see a thermometer icon on the screen either. We even removed all peripherals except for one monitor and my keyboard, reset NVRAM/PRAM and SMC, and tried the process again, to no avail.

The GPU is the only thing I can think of, although your comment about the boot drive (a 1TB SSD on the PCI bus) has me a bit worried as well... First Aid shows no problems with the boot drive, is it possible there's some hidden corruption? I wish I had the original GPU lying around somewhere to suss this out. Anyway like I said upgrading is not a huge concern for me especially since the only reason I'd be doing it is to fix this SMB issue - and I don't even know that it'll do that, given some others' comments here.

For what it’s worth I’m on a Mac Pro 5,1 with an RX580 and 1TB PCIe SSD and have gone from Sierra > High Sierra > Mojave successfully.

Toast Museum
Dec 3, 2005

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Posting this here mostly because my own searches only turned up outdated information:

C:\Program Files\Boot Camp\BootCamp.exe -StartupDisk Mac

and

C:\Program Files\Boot Camp\BootCamp.exe -StartupDisk BootCamp

Set the boot OS to macOS or Windows, respectively. Some notes:

  • This applies to the version of BootCamp that's supplied for 2019 iMacs (and presumably 2019 MacBooks, but I haven't tested the version in that bundle). Older versions use a different syntax and, more importantly, can't see APFS partitions.
  • This version of BootCamp can be installed on at least some older Macs, though you may need to use a transform file to suppress the installer's attempts to install drivers. I've tested it on 2018 iMacs and am about to test it on 2016 models as well. There is no UI when installed on older Macs, but the command-line command works.
  • Previous versions had you specify the partition names after the parameter; that's not the case here.
  • The command must be run as administrator.

I think there's still a way to do the same with terminal commands in macOS, but that's changed as well, and I need to dig into that next.

Binary Badger
Oct 11, 2005

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Mister Speaker posted:

Yes I was very attentive to the exact instructions. Waited a bit after the power light went off, held power button until light flashed and tone played. I don't have an optical drive anymore, both those bays hold SSDs. I didn't see a thermometer icon on the screen either. We even removed all peripherals except for one monitor and my keyboard, reset NVRAM/PRAM and SMC, and tried the process again, to no avail.

The GPU is the only thing I can think of, although your comment about the boot drive (a 1TB SSD on the PCI bus) has me a bit worried as well... First Aid shows no problems with the boot drive, is it possible there's some hidden corruption? I wish I had the original GPU lying around somewhere to suss this out. Anyway like I said upgrading is not a huge concern for me especially since the only reason I'd be doing it is to fix this SMB issue - and I don't even know that it'll do that, given some others' comments here.


I ran this code by buddy and he said it was worth a try, but alas, still no joy. I'm far from a code monkey, can you think of any variations on that line that might work?

Any way you can just throw in a standard spinner, like a 7200/5400 250-500 GB SATA drive, wipe it, and try the firmware update again?

If the HS/Mojave installer detects that it's being asked to create a boot drive for an SSD, if the SSD is not a Samsung or recognized OEM manufacturer that makes Apple SSDs (SanDisk or Toshiba) it may refuse / fail to create the virtual partition for where the firmware updater will written to. If it's a standard platter drive it just does it regardless of make.

When reviving 5,1s from 2010 I had to throw in standard spinners a lot to get to HS.

Mister Speaker
May 8, 2007

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I might actually have an HDD backup of my boot SSD lying around to try that, yeah. Walk me through that again, you're saying drop in the HDD, boot from it, and try the firmware update again? Why wipe it?

Binary Badger
Oct 11, 2005

Trolling Link for a decade


Yeah, run the firmware update while booted from the HDD, as the installer should see that the boot / startup device is an HDD and not an SSD and not refuse to write the update code to the hidden EFI reserved area on that device.

When you boot from the SSD, the installer checks to see if it's an SSD made by an Apple OEM, if it doesn't find the right ID, then it'll refuse to write the updater into the hidden area and you'll get the nonupgrading loop you're currently trapped in.

The new BootROM should have a version number in an xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx format instead of what it is now.

On my Mac 5,1 running Mojave, the latest BootROM (and likely the last revision it'll ever get from Apple) is 144.0.0.0.

Binary Badger fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Jan 17, 2020

UnfurledSails
Sep 1, 2011

I remember like 10 years ago there was an option to manually turn off a Macbook's trackpad by pressing the Option key 5 times or something like that. Does that feature still exist? My new Macbook has a much larger trackpad and my hands brush against it causing all sorts of unintended stuff to happen. Whatever automatic disabling there might be is not really working, so I'd like to have the option to manually disable my trackpad with a hotkey.

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Rick
Feb 23, 2004
When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.
For whatever reason in the last month, I've been unable to see my external drive when it's plugged in via a firewire/thunderbolt adapter. The drive shows up if instead use a USB A cable.

It doesn't show up in the disk utility when plugged in to the firewire adapter, but at least the adapter shows up in system profile. So my first thought was maybe the firewire cable was bad, so I swapped it out, but nothing. I did notice the thunderbolt adapter is hot, which makes me think it might actually be the problem. But I've also done some googling and apparently with external drives sometimes Mac OS just loses them and eventually it will come back. Anyone else have this experience?

The computer that needed the firewire is long gone, so I think it might be time to replace this drive anyway, and I might do that instead of spending $30 on a thunderbolt adapter (especially since external drives are like $60 for 3TB right now), but, also my macbook only has two USB ports and one has a microphone in it 100% of the time. I have a hub but it's unreliable. So putting that thunderbolt port to work is desirable.

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