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BeefThief posted:Why did the emperor make multiple smokes and why was Smoke in charge of the first order? The other Snokes were failed designs a la Alien Resurrection. Snoke proper looked all hosed up and disfigured so I guess Palpatine never perfected him, he just sent the best one he had (at the time of his death?) to take over the failsafe order. Basically a throwaway pet dark wizard who can hold the fort until Palpatine can suck someone’s soul out and return.
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do i need to see the first two to understand this one?
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Jan 13, 2020 01:48
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numberoneposter posted:do i need to see the first two to understand this one? there IS no understanding this one.
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Jan 13, 2020 01:49
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numberoneposter posted:do i need to see the first two to understand this one? Don’t worry about it
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numberoneposter posted:do i need to see the first two to understand this one? Honestly, its harder to understand if you did.
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numberoneposter posted:do i need to see the first two to understand this one? No. The only things that matter plot-wise are that Han and Luke died before this movie. Everything else is retconned, re-explained or tossed in the trash.
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Jan 13, 2020 01:51
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Barudak posted:Honestly, its harder to understand if you did. Pretty much. Going into it and knowing JJ's style of "story writing" I didn't spend 99% of the movie asking the screen "what happened to . . . ". People who watched this one and skipped the previous two probably had fewer questions.
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Jan 13, 2020 01:52
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I feel like I have a good understanding of the plot from the 2nd one simply from all the youtube backlash I've seen.
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Jan 13, 2020 02:21
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Everyone, the movie was bad.
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Jan 13, 2020 02:23
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Barudak posted:Honestly, its harder to understand if you did. lol
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Jan 13, 2020 02:39
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I hear if you copy all three Blu-ray’s to your hd it unlocks a secret TikTok link that shows reys hooha
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Jan 13, 2020 03:32
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If he snokes he pokes.
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Jan 13, 2020 04:08
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numberoneposter posted:I feel like I have a good understanding of the plot from the 2nd one simply from all the youtube backlash I've seen. You don't need to watch the 2nd (8th) sequel movie if you're going to watch RoS - the only TLJ plot point they don't retcon or ignore is the fact that Luke is now dead.
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Jan 13, 2020 04:10
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skasion posted:The other Snokes were failed designs a la Alien Resurrection. Snoke proper looked all hosed up and disfigured so I guess Palpatine never perfected him, he just sent the best one he had (at the time of his death?) to take over the failsafe order. Basically a throwaway pet dark wizard who can hold the fort until Palpatine can suck someone’s soul out and return. You go to starwar with the Snoke you have not the one you wish you had
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Jan 13, 2020 05:47
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skasion posted:The other Snokes were failed designs a la Alien Resurrection. Snoke proper looked all hosed up and disfigured so I guess Palpatine never perfected him, he just sent the best one he had (at the time of his death?) to take over the failsafe order. Basically a throwaway pet dark wizard who can hold the fort until Palpatine can suck someone’s soul out and return. But why would the first order follow random deformed guy who just appeared out of nowhere?
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Jan 13, 2020 08:03
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lol why the gently caress does anyone actually try to debate the merits of anything in the "sequel trilogy" a giant corporation bought the rights to star wars and hastily crapped out a bunch of lovely bland focus grouped design by committee turds made solely for the purpose of exploiting the prestige of the original trilogy, thats all there is to it imo, that by itself explains every plot hole and every stupid decision
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Jan 13, 2020 08:12
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jimmyjams posted:lol why the gently caress does anyone actually try to debate the merits of anything in the "sequel trilogy" Because doing so means those people will have to face that they wasted their lives obsessing over a fat man's story for children.
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Jan 13, 2020 08:55
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Gianthogweed posted:But why would the first order follow random deformed guy who just appeared out of nowhere? ✅nice throne room ✅sounds evil ✅appears to have plan ✅magic lightning Who wouldn’t serve this guy?
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Jan 13, 2020 12:53
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I mean their last guy didn't exactly have a lot of qualifications beyond looking creepy.
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Jan 13, 2020 13:02
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Colonel Cancer posted:I mean their last guy didn't exactly have a lot of qualifications beyond looking creepy. Multi-term senator turned chancellor, war hero who returned stability to the galaxy, personally survived multiple assassination attempts including one by a child-stealing cult whose leader he personally killed before wiping them out to the last man, and lays pipe like a plumber
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Bogus Adventure posted:Because doing so means those people will have to face that they wasted their lives obsessing over a fat man's story for children. "Story for children" would imply it's understandable that they're not very good because they weren't intended to be. The OT were actually good films though.
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Jan 13, 2020 13:12
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Barudak posted:Multi-term senator turned chancellor, war hero who returned stability to the galaxy, personally survived multiple assassination attempts including one by a child-stealing cult whose leader he personally killed before wiping them out to the last man, and lays pipe like a plumber A backwater (literally) hick who somehow bumbled his way into becoming the Fuhrer, and then got replaced by a creepy weirdo who wears capes and only whispers. It's almost like the child stealing cult has assassinated and replaced him with their own agent!
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Jan 13, 2020 13:22
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Gianthogweed posted:But why would the first order follow random deformed guy who just appeared out of nowhere? he has the force. he makes them do what he wants with his mind control
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Jan 13, 2020 13:57
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eh i'm not really feeling these disney star wars movies they feel a bit forced
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Jan 13, 2020 14:11
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It's heavily implied Sheev made Anakin with the Force. He should have just made another one instead of a weird looking Snoke. Maybe the process goes catawumpus when you don't have a womb to gestate your Force homunculus in? Were there no women in the loyalist legion that hid out on Lightning Moon who could have volunteered?
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Jan 13, 2020 14:29
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if palpatine survived at the end of return of the jedi, why didn't he just keep running the empire?
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Jan 13, 2020 15:56
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BeefThief posted:if palpatine survived at the end of return of the jedi, why didn't he just keep running the empire? He didn’t survive, he’s dead. It says so right in the opening crawl
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Jan 13, 2020 15:59
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There was a part in tRoS where Rey said “I’m just so tired” and I immediately chimed in with “of all these Star Wars” like pavlov’s dog.
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Jan 13, 2020 16:10
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it's in the JJ cut, i'm sure
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Jan 13, 2020 16:13
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revwinnebago posted:"Story for children" would imply it's understandable that they're not very good because they weren't intended to be. Stories for children are cool and good, but some people develop unhealthy obsessions with them.
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Colonel Cancer posted:A backwater (literally) hick who somehow bumbled his way into becoming the Fuhrer, and then got replaced by a creepy weirdo who wears capes and only whispers. It's almost like the child stealing cult has assassinated and replaced him with their own agent! How dare you accuse a man wounded by them goddamn cowardly Jedi of being an agent, that man has given his all for this here galaxy <slaps the side of his speeder covered in imperial flag decals>.
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Jan 13, 2020 16:33
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Its sort of funny how george was so salty about not winning best director at the 78 oscars for star wars that he went back and made his stupid special editions to poo poo on the people who did win oscars.
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Mozi posted:eh i'm not really feeling these disney star wars movies they're all a bunch of hyperdrivel
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Burns posted:Its sort of funny how george was so salty about not winning best director at the 78 oscars for star wars that he went back and made his stupid special editions to poo poo on the people who did win oscars. My name is attached to the Perfect Blockbuster that enchanted a generation and became a cultural juggernaut. Better wait 20 years and start defacing it with redundant scenes and CGI clutter! NGL I was a teenager when they came out and we were starved for New Star Wars so we ate it up, but I'm not sure what I can add to the volumes that already exist about how criminal it is that the dude memory holed the classic version of Star Wars. Lucas, testifying before congress about the practice of the Turner Broadcasting Company colorizing old black and white movies posted:“People who alter or destroy works of art and our cultural heritage for profit or as an exercise of power are barbarians,” he said. “[And] if the laws of the United States continue to condone this behavior, history will surely classify us as a barbaric society.” 
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Owlbear Camus posted:IMaybe the process goes catawumpus when you don't have a womb to gestate your Force homunculus in? Were there no women in the loyalist legion that hid out on Lightning Moon who could have volunteered? Title crawl. EPISODE X The process has gone CATAWUMPUS. Taxation on trade routes has again blahblahblah....
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BeefThief posted:if palpatine survived at the end of return of the jedi, why didn't he just keep running the empire? He did the evil version of what Yoda and Obi Wan did.
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Moola posted:it all makes sense now He's the hero we all deserved. Owlbear Camus posted:NGL I was a teenager when they came out and we were starved for New Star Wars so we ate it up, but I'm not sure what I can add to the volumes that already exist about how criminal it is that the dude memory holed the classic version of Star Wars. There's always Harmy's Despecialized Editions.
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