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Der Shovel posted:Ooh is it Army OSHA time? I've got two! Forgotten Weapons recently uploaded a video of an ex-soviet 122mm howitzer firing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jC8QluMMELU There's some OSHA in the video as the comments, mostly from Finnish artillery crews which used the same gun as the 122H63, mention that the loader should never load the gun directly from behind as there's a risk of the gun firing immediately upon closing the breech and hitting the incorrectly positioned loader.
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Artillery is actually a form of long range communication. The only message it gets through is "gently caress you! " though.
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PurpleXVI posted:It would seem that a firing range, with weapons that have different propellant charges, should have no back yards out to the maximum distance of a given weapon and propellant charge. Yeah that was my first thought too
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PurpleXVI posted:It would seem that a firing range, with weapons that have different propellant charges, should have no back yards out to the maximum distance of a given weapon and propellant charge. I wonder if someone painstakingly did that, complete with a healthy safety margin. Then the army upgraded from blackpowder cannons firing preserved moose shells to ultra-high velocity titanium sabots, powered by an exotic propellant, realised that they had built a village at the end of the existing range, so decided a suitable solution would be a Word Memo pasted to the guns end of the range.
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By popular demand posted:Artillery is actually a form of long range communication. The only message it gets through is "gently caress you! " though. It can send a lot of messages though! Dear Grid Square, You look cold (fires white phosphorus) It's dark, and that's unsafe! (fires parachute illumination flares) Eat a pile of poo poo (fires standard HE) You, yes you, I see you, and gently caress you in particular! (fires copperhead laser guided shell) Lots of subtlety and nuance to be communicated 155mm at a time!
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Here's the full vid of that Nepalese waterfall road: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10SjlFFg77E TFW you realize that it's not just 2 dudes in a Landcruiser
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Dannywilson posted:Here's the full vid of that Nepalese waterfall road: The two first curves with no guardrail in place look like someone didnt stay on the road.
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Turrurrurrurrrrrrr posted:The two first curves with no guardrail in place look like someone didnt stay on the road. Maybe, but I'm guessing that it was probably debris pushed by the water that removed the guardrail.
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Cartoon Man posted:Buckle up... This is making me remember that horrible movie "Dragonfly", where the guys wife dies when her bus falls off a similar cliff during a landslide or something. It felt like it was on TV all the loving time, ugh
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Shut up Meg posted:Specifically this scene and what the captain would do. I know this is from a few pages ago but this is an interesting bit of fiction. People who were actually around to witness the incident that spawned this scene describe it as playing out something like this: One Delta operator was moving around the base with his AR-type rifle (CAR-15 or something) in storage condition. Storage condition is magazine out, chamber empty, with the hammer dropped on the firing pin. On an AR-15, when the hammer is down and the trigger is dead, you cannot move the safety off of fire, but the weapon is already cleared and safe. The officer goes up to hassle the operator. O: Your safety isn't on. D: The hammer is down. O: But your safety isn't on. D:Yeah but the hammer is down. O: Yeah but your safety isn't on. D: *sigh* This is my safety. *walks away* Naturally the last bit is what made its way into pop culture and dumb people use it as an excuse for bad weapons handling to this day. To answer your curiosities, Delta operators are just about the only group who can get away with flouting the rules and the admonitions of a commissioned officer outside their chain of command, for various reasons including that they are generally respected and trusted to not be idiots.
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Unlike Seal Teams, who, at one point in Afghanistan, weren't allowed to carry hand grenades IIRC.
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Smiling Jack posted:Unlike Seal Teams, who, at one point in Afghanistan, weren't allowed to carry hand grenades IIRC. Considering the scalping, the murdering fellow Americans, and the carrying of Trump flags, they probably shouldn't be allowed to operate at all.
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:Considering the scalping, the murdering fellow Americans, and the carrying of Trump flags, they probably shouldn't be allowed to operate at all. They'll never learn that it's wrong to shoot school girls and watch her friends try to drag her to safety if we keep inviting them to meet the president.
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:the murdering fellow Americans, Are you referring to the time they murdered a green beret or is this something different?
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speaking of scalping, a good bit of OSHA advice for service members: don't get blackout drunk in an active warzone!quote:A fascinating scalping incident occurred as the siege of the English forts at Oswego, NY, were about to commence. In May, 1756, French allied Indians skulked about the forts to inflict what casualties they could. Stephen Cross, a shipbuilder from Massachusetts, records on May 25th that "one of our soldiers came in from the edge of the woods, where it seems he had lain all night having been out on the evening party the day before and got drunk and could not get in, and not being missed, but on seeing him found he had lost his scalp, but he could not tell how nor when, having no others around. We supposed the Indians had stumbled over him in the dark, and supposed him dead, and taken off his scalp."30 Patrick Mackeller also mentioned the incident in his journal and added "he afterwards recover'd."31 i wonder if your lieutenant would be more pissed if you tried to come back from a patrol without your handgun or without your scalp?
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how exactly do you recover from missing all the flesh on the top of your skull circa the 1700s
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Squalid posted:i wonder if your lieutenant would be more pissed if you tried to come back from a patrol without your handgun or without your scalp? Is your scalp serialized? One of those being lost has a lot less paperwork.
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Lazyhound posted:how exactly do you recover from missing all the flesh on the top of your skull circa the 1700s Alcohol.
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Lazyhound posted:how exactly do you recover from missing all the flesh on the top of your skull circa the 1700s I guess if its all missing then theres nothing to get gangrene. Just clean bone.
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The car equivalent of breaking your ankle doing a fashion walk in artsy footwear  Lazyhound posted:how exactly do you recover from missing all the flesh on the top of your skull circa the 1700s First, scalping isn't the full-on "ear to ear, brow to nape" taking of the scalp, it's usually the top of the head. Better to imagine all the hair attached to a top knot, it's more than nominal but not thorough. Generally speaking, while the scalp does bleed profusely from its proximity to the brain and all the major arteries that supply it, it's actually fairly bare in terms of soft tissue that can cause lasting damage. A lot of conditions were just right for this guy to recover, including: not suffering a strike capable of damaging the skull, not initially bleeding out with a high BAC, no lasting infection, and some form of treatment to mitigate future exacerbation. It's basically a fair amount of skin on bone; your musculature is more the back, front, and sides of the head, not the top.
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Mistle posted:The car equivalent of breaking your ankle doing a fashion walk in artsy footwear It wasn't a scalping, but when I was like three, my sister smashed a plastic bucket over my head and the edge caught my scalp. There was so little bleeding my parents didn't know I was hurt that bad until I complained about the pain after my bath and my mom checked and found a gash several inches long that, again, wasn't really bleeding. So maybe these Native Americans used a plastic bucket on this dude.
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Uthor posted:"I bet we're going to see a car go by... 
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Hillary 2020 posted:Are you referring to the time they murdered a green beret or is this something different? Wasn't there a case a while back where they duct taped some marine's mouth shut and he died before they were planning to rape him on camera because he learned about them smuggling weapons or drugs in whatever third world shithole they were in?
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LifeSunDeath posted:it's like some ballet move Breakdancing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCYLEO9sIVQ
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Wasn't there a case a while back where they duct taped some marine's mouth shut and he died before they were planning to rape him on camera because he learned about them smuggling weapons or drugs in whatever third world shithole they were in? It's the same case, but you have the details mixed up. The Seals along with two Marine Raiders duct-taped that Green Beret and ended up suffocating him. https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/06/05/raiders-seals-planned-sexual-assault-in-green-beret-hazing-that-led-to-homicide/ quote:The Post reported Wednesday that through a stipulation of facts document it obtained and verified that not only were the two Navy SEALs and two Marine Raiders going to assault, duct tape and video record the illegal hazing of Melgar, but that they also planned to have a Malian man who was present sexually assault the 34-year-old staff sergeant on video.
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Did somebody just say [b]artillery excersise[b] and [b]Soviet artillery[b] inthe same sentence? Because I've got a short story from my late grandpa's turbulent youth. During his time as an artilleryman in the post-war Polish army my grandfather took a part in a routine live-fire excersise, probably on some precursor to Zeond posted:Forgotten Weapons recently uploaded a video of an ex-soviet 122mm howitzer firing: The goal is to score one hit in three shots, and there's about a dozen guys taking turns on the same gun. Finally it's my grandfather's turn, the gun is loaded, he gets into the shooter's position, pulls the trigger.. and wakes up in hospital, some two weeks later, with a broken spine. The gun exploded under him, threw him back, and smashed him back-first into a GAZ69 parked some twenty meters away. According to the family legend, the difference between him walking out of the hospital and him being permamently paralyzed and my father never being born was about one centimeter.
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SealHammer posted:I know this is from a few pages ago but this is an interesting bit of fiction. Thank you for the effortpost. That takes it from 'surely that's Hollywood bullshit' to 'that sounds like a story that someone in GIP would relate' - assuming that the officer later went on to accidentally shoot their own desk.
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Quick aside: that man seems to have plenty of upper body strength, wouldn't be be able to get around on crutches? WHY THE gently caress WOULD YOU NOT LOOK UP BEFORE MOVING A LADDER YOU rear end in a top hat
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It was intentional. I think the dude was mad about something like they were blocking a road or something like that (they weren't doing whatever he was mad about, he was just old and mad at the world). I think he either got arrested or at least talked to by the cops.
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By popular demand posted:Quick aside: that man seems to have plenty of upper body strength, wouldn't be be able to get around on crutches? Not if he can’t put weight on his legs.
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:It was intentional. I think the dude was mad about something like they were blocking a road or something like that (they weren't doing whatever he was mad about, he was just old and mad at the world). I think he either got arrested or at least talked to by the cops. I think it's because of the safety line attached to the ladders that crosses the sidewalk. What an rear end in a top hat.
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https://www.en24.news/2020/01/an-old-man-in-a-wheelchair-caused-a-painter-to-fall-on-a-ladder-video-san-martin-de-porres.html Found a few links but this seems to be one of the originals that isn't a tabloid site.
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JingleBells posted:This is why you wear the correct PPE when riding a motorbike: I'm surprised the car driver survived after that due to how many motorcyclists were there Lead out in cuffs posted:Yeah, reminds me of this: when im normal cycling i do try to remind myself that someone can murder me and not face any consequences for it
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