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For me, the Interior Ministry emphasizes how small Ashina is relative to the grand scheme of things. It's not being conquered by the actual army, it's being dealt with by what is just internal security forces.
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Meanwhile I'm over here thinking it's a completely internal power struggle going on. As in it's Ashina's Interior Ministry
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# ? Jan 14, 2020 02:02 |
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It came up in another thread recently, but the whole "pulling your soul out of your rear end" thing is commonly associated with kappas and water. Drowning victims, uh, often have prolapses and that's where the myth comes from (please don't look up prolapse).
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Bellmaker posted:It came up in another thread recently, but the whole "pulling your soul out of your rear end" thing is commonly associated with kappas and water. Drowning victims, uh, often have prolapses and that's where the myth comes from (please don't look up prolapse). We're goons we all know what that is
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# ? Jan 14, 2020 02:48 |
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Incidentally ThornBrain you did exactly the opposite of what I did with the Monkey Party: I saw them and thought "there's no way I'm not getting stuck in" and leaped into the middle of them, sword a whirlin it ended badly
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# ? Jan 14, 2020 03:50 |
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You can anti-air desthnlow the monkeys when they do the bellyflop. That is all.
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Ciaphas posted:Incidentally ThornBrain you did exactly the opposite of what I did with the Monkey Party: I saw them and thought "there's no way I'm not getting stuck in" and leaped into the middle of them, sword a whirlin
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# ? Jan 14, 2020 15:49 |
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anilEhilated posted:I just snuck up and flamethrower'd the poo poo out of them. Which is actually the official CDC sanctioned way to deal with large groups of heavily armed monkeys. After all, if they have guns, then they could also have rabies. Best to burn the lot of them.
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# ? Jan 14, 2020 21:17 |
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The backstory for this place is rough. Viewer discretion is advised. Don't worry, I kill all of them.
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# ? Jan 18, 2020 21:03 |
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Why you aren't vacuuming loot from the dead? It's driving me cray-cray Edit: Balloon of Wealth, but still cray-cray. NHO fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Jan 18, 2020 |
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It's been said many times that the backstory is rough, but what exactly is rough about it? There are some sensitive topics I handle decently without a warning, and some specifically I'd need that warning. I'll ask under spoiler tags just in case: Is it sexual assault? Cruelty to disabled people? Torture and body horror?
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# ? Jan 18, 2020 22:47 |
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I believe those statues are the who the sugars are named after.
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# ? Jan 18, 2020 23:10 |
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god please help me posted:Cruelty to disabled people? Torture and body horror? Decently sure of the first, oh yeah absolutely to the second. So why did they yeet the kids anyway? Is it part of the ritual to gain immortality? Or will we find out later?
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# ? Jan 19, 2020 00:42 |
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SSNeoman posted:Decently sure of the first, oh yeah absolutely to the second. They didn’t intentionally yeet the kids, the other kids just died instead of becoming Immortal and then being able to share that immortality which the survivor doesn’t do anyway. The Centipede thing is what they have and they were trying to upgrade by making a fake Kuro, which didn’t work and led to a bunch of kids getting sick and dying and the Divine Child living. Wiseblood posted:I believe those statues are the who the sugars are named after. The sugars are named after the Headless that you fight, which is why you get the permanent versions of the sugars from the Headless.
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# ? Jan 19, 2020 01:08 |
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Centipede Boy reminds me of those creepy guys in the Breath of the Wild shrines. Is that a Buddhist thing?
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# ? Jan 19, 2020 03:29 |
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Bellmaker posted:Centipede Boy reminds me of those creepy guys in the Breath of the Wild shrines. Is that a Buddhist thing? Yup Sokushinbutsu Monks who self mummify in pursuit of enlightenment. They stave and dehydrate themselves to death. This method was popoular in ding ding ding Shugendo buddhism, which preached severe ascetism. The shugendo version of self mummification involved almost 10 years of subsisting on pine needles, resins and seeds from the mountain forests of its region, which leads the person to become severely emaciated with little if any fat, they then aim to die in meditation, leaving behind a wonderfully preserved mummy without the use of any preservatives.
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# ? Jan 19, 2020 04:34 |
This is my favorite area in the game and the extremely hosed-up backstory is a huge part of it. The moment you figure it out hits comparably to Dark Souls' "oh, that's what I've been walking on at the bottom of New Londo".
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# ? Jan 19, 2020 08:05 |
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Ah, here we go Why are From Software's worlds so messed up and depressing? They need to bring back whoever wrote metal wolf chaos for a game or two, just to lighten the mood. So if the knight's son was murdered by the monks on the mountain, why is he hanging out with them and attacking Sekiro? Surely he'd want to be friends with the dude who just showed up and started wrecking everyone who had a hand in harming his son. (I have a feeling there's a reason that's logical and very depressing.)
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# ? Jan 19, 2020 12:53 |
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Crazy Achmed posted:Ah, here we go Robert was sick, the knight brought him along on the quest to find a way to heal him. They met the monks who took Robert to "heal him" and told the knight to protect them in return, then presumably they're just sandbagging and lying about the treatment taking a long time.
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# ? Jan 19, 2020 13:06 |
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And you're a little wrong about the Robert's dad's armor. The helmet isnt the part thats Japanese, its the arm and leg sections. He is wearing a very syncretic armor. Very European in form but very Japanese in execution, as if it was made to order but the armorsmiths, unfamiliar with European methods, chose to use their own. The helmet is a cabasset, and many Japanese smiths adapted or utilized foreign designs.
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# ? Jan 19, 2020 14:44 |
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The facemask on the helmet looked fairly japanese Also I believe that several japanese noblemen got given european plate armor as gifts from portugese traders and the like, and these were highly prised.
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# ? Jan 20, 2020 01:55 |
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Lord_Magmar posted:The sugars are named after the Headless that you fight, which is why you get the permanent versions of the sugars from the Headless. Yes, and the statues are of them with heads.
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# ? Jan 20, 2020 02:21 |
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So, with all the talk that's been done about this place's backstory, it has not (so far) been as bad as I was expecting. I mean, except for the descriptions of those pinwheels. Those are creepy as gently caress. (I'm not, by the way, saying it's not dark and awful, just not as bad as I had feared/come to expect)
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# ? Jan 20, 2020 16:23 |
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I mean, we all seen Senpou assassins. You can't make that deformed shape from normal human without starting early and inflicting a lot of pain in the process.
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NHO posted:I mean, we all seen Senpou assassins. You can't make that deformed shape from normal human without starting early and inflicting a lot of pain in the process. I think the Senpou Assassins are actually implied to be some sort of spiritual being not related to humans? But I might be very wrong. Anyway, it's worth noting that the Senpou Temple Monks seem to be at odds with the Ashina Clan too, given Isshin's disdain for their "rats" and the way they're clearly protecting themselves from the direction the Ashina would arrive from.
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# ? Jan 21, 2020 06:03 |
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Just jump at them and kill them in the air, Thorn. They even told you in a hint.
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# ? Jan 25, 2020 21:02 |
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Overlord 1 and 2 are both really fun games, 2 maybe more than 1.
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# ? Jan 25, 2020 22:21 |
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47 must have gotten his briefcase technology from those bomb monks.
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# ? Jan 25, 2020 22:38 |
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About enemy ninjas jumping to some places and not others, the way it's usually done is there's a navmesh which indicates what areas the NPCs can walk and it can have "off-mesh links" for things like jumps. Basically specific areas are marked as "you can jump from here to there".
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# ? Jan 25, 2020 22:59 |
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The double blade dudes are a huge pain in the butt. Good job dealing with them that well!
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# ? Jan 25, 2020 23:15 |
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This is one of those games that I'm never gonna remember the entire story for. Do those long - arm centipede bosses have anything to do with the immortal monk guys?
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# ? Jan 26, 2020 09:14 |
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They might the results of Senpou experiments. They might also just be centipede-themed furries. In Ashina it could go either way.
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# ? Jan 26, 2020 19:23 |
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When you took out the first bomb-throwing monk, I had to go back and watch it again to see that there was a bomb thrown by another monk about to hit you. Because it looked like the one you killed exploded a second after you killed him. And a game like this giving enemies dead-man's-switch bombs wouldn't be out of place, I feel. Also I had to go back to that deadpan "holy poo poo" a few times.
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# ? Jan 26, 2020 20:17 |
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At the beginning part to the level, you can totally backstab that monk on the deck without pulling him away. For some reason the guy looking right at you doesn't notice.
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# ? Jan 26, 2020 20:35 |
Does the game explain why the Infested text is in the water versus speaking with the monk directly? I don't understand why Ashina Castle would trigger a difference. Only thing I can think of is that the monk drowned himself.
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# ? Jan 26, 2020 23:26 |
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Ashina Castle is just one of the game's passage-of-time points of no return. He's one of the immortals so he probably just threw it in the water to destroy it.
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# ? Jan 27, 2020 08:57 |
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What gets me about Senpou Temple is just how picturesque it looks. So colourful and cheery. It's like the one thing from a Soulsborne game that seems like a tourist destination. So of course the Fromsoft story writers would go "haha, yeah, that's where they killed all the children."
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# ? Jan 28, 2020 06:46 |
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To quote another excellent game: Mountains'r nice.
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# ? Jan 29, 2020 00:14 |
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Morroque posted:What gets me about Senpou Temple is just how picturesque it looks. So colourful and cheery. It's like the one thing from a Soulsborne game that seems like a tourist destination. I didn't quite grok what was going on until roughly when I met a later NPC. made the bad feelings about stabbing all those "buddhist" monks go away, toot-sweet
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RareAcumen posted:This is one of those games that I'm never gonna remember the entire story for. Do those long - arm centipede bosses have anything to do with the immortal monk guys? If you look closely, you can actually see centipedes crawling all over the two oldest monks, so they definitely do. Donkringel posted:Does the game explain why the Infested text is in the water versus speaking with the monk directly? I don't understand why Ashina Castle would trigger a difference. Only thing I can think of is that the monk drowned himself. The monk didn't drown himself, but probably died of old age, just like his compatriot; his book was then thrown into the water as trash, much like the buddhist statues you see around it. As for why that happened...well, we won't see that for a while yet, but there's very much a religious conflict going on in the background. As a general rule, the closer you are to the waters, the further you get from Buddhism. Lord_Magmar posted:Anyway, it's worth noting that the Senpou Temple Monks seem to be at odds with the Ashina Clan too, given Isshin's disdain for their "rats" and the way they're clearly protecting themselves from the direction the Ashina would arrive from. The monks are playing both sides: there are monks working for Ashina, but their assassins seem to be doing their own thing. Isshin's rats are different though: those guys are all from the Interior Ministry, who in turn have their hands in pretty much every pie. thetruegentleman fucked around with this message at 23:32 on Jan 29, 2020 |
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