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Tarnop posted:I didn't realise that giving an example of a bad scene in response to a request for the same was considered gauche. Are there any other important rules of etiquette for this thread? Sometimes when you say something on a forum, people will challenge you on it or ask questions or make their own insights. It's okay don't take it personally, and welcome to the thread 
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Neo Rasa posted:Look up how when developing Raiders of the Lost Ark he originally wanted Jones/Marion to have like a ~ten year age difference between them so that the "I was a child! I was in love!" line was to literally mean that she was like 10 while he was 21 and he wanted that because it "makes it more interesting." Isn’t that implied in the movie anyway? I understood it to mean exactly that
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Jan 14, 2020 17:39
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sponges posted:“My little green friend” The way it syncs up with the music is top-notch Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:Just loving imagine how incredibly satisfying that whole sequence must have been for Palpatine, in-universe. He's having fun, as all Sith do
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Jan 14, 2020 17:48
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Jewmanji posted:Isn’t that implied in the movie anyway? I understood it to mean exactly that The point of the movie is that Dr. Jones, a college professor, used to sleep with his college-age students. After things went badly with Marion, he regretted it - hence why he’s now freaked out by the eyelid girl. Marion is upset because, although she initiated things, she now realizes that Indy should have tactfully turned her down due to the power imbalance. Lucas and Spielberg aren’t seriously considering changing Dr. Jones to a kindergarten teacher, because that would make no sense for the film. The entire basic premise is that Jones is a historian. The question is how ‘interestingly’ scuzzy they can make the college teacher without losing the audience, as with One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest.
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Jan 14, 2020 17:58
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:The point of the movie is that Dr. Jones, a college professor, used to sleep with his college-age students. After things went badly with Marion, he regretted it - hence why he’s now freaked out by the eyelid girl. Kindergarten Cop's original script was pretty hosed up
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Jan 14, 2020 18:32
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I mean, it’s also a major recurring gag in Raiders that Jones is not in fact a cool badass dude, but a nerdlord with a gun who gets constantly owned, fucks up regularly, and ultimately accomplished nothing since the ark would have toasted the nazis with or without his help. In that context, the reveal that he’s also a creeper who was macking on a 13 year old makes absolute sense, and was probably only cut because they realized it was a bridge too far for audiences to accept
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Jan 14, 2020 18:54
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RBA Starblade posted:Actually between Luke wanting to bang his sister and now Anakin popping off to his mom it's looking to me like Lucas was going for something Ben's last act was kissing his cousin, once-removed.
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Jan 14, 2020 18:57
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Pinterest Mom posted:Ben's last act was kissing his cousin, once-removed. Yet another thing they just remade from the OT instead of doing something new, the ending of RoS verifies that if you kiss a Skywalker you become a Skywalker
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Jan 14, 2020 19:54
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STAR WARS EPISODE X THE PHANTOM SKYWALKER The dead speak! The galaxy has received a mysterious vision, a promise of HOPE in the voice of the late LUKE SKYWALKER. POE DAMERON and his husband FN-2187, heroes of ROGUE SQUADRON, got secret offscreen kisses from Luke and became SKYWALKERS. Meanwhile, Empress REY SKYWALKER rages in search of the phantom Skywalkers, determined to destroy any threat to her power….
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Jan 14, 2020 20:04
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Halloween Jack posted:STAR WARS It would have been insanely good if they went directly from Last Jedi to this.
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Jan 14, 2020 20:05
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I'm down for an episode x where boyega (not finn) digs up the sabers and has some bond/indy with a lightsaber space romps e: woah just got weirdly scooped on this lol
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Jan 14, 2020 20:06
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Episode X: Too Many Skywalkers
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Jan 14, 2020 20:07
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Guy A. Person posted:Episode X: Too Many Skywalkers Hey I'm skywalkin' here!
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Jan 14, 2020 20:21
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Every death star causes a corresponding skywalker, or perhaps vice versa
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Jan 14, 2020 20:22
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Oops All Skywalkers
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I dunno if I thought of it, or someone else in this thread thought of it, where maybe the title Rise of Skywalker meant that a new kind of Jedi would come out of the movie and they'd be called Skywalkers. I guess the idea was much too ambitious for them, and goes against Disney's simple idea of there being nothing wrong with the Jedi.
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Detective No. 27 posted:I dunno if I thought of it, or someone else in this thread thought of it, where maybe the title Rise of Skywalker meant that a new kind of Jedi would come out of the movie and they'd be called Skywalkers. I thought this might be the meaning too.
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Jan 14, 2020 20:44
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Skywalkers in flight Afternoon delight
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:I mean, it’s also a major recurring gag in Raiders that Jones is not in fact a cool badass dude, but a nerdlord with a gun who gets constantly owned, fucks up regularly, and ultimately accomplished nothing since the ark would have toasted the nazis with or without his help. In that context, the reveal that he’s also a creeper who was macking on a 13 year old makes absolute sense, and was probably only cut because they realized it was a bridge too far for audiences to accept That idea is squashed because Kasdan just tells George "no, George, that's hosed up" and Spielberg bridges into aging her up from that an ambiguous amount. The whole spitballing Indiana Jones transcript is amazing because it's a great idea of 3 different creatives with different styles working out a big idea in collaboration. Darko fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Jan 14, 2020 |
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Jan 14, 2020 20:54
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Halloween Jack posted:STAR WARS This is so much better than the actual Episode 9 premise that I'm going to make it CANON. Just an excellent short story.
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Jan 15, 2020 00:37
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Bad scene: The overly long light saber duel between Obi Wan and Anakin where they scale falling towers, fight on top of lava scooping droids? and it eventually ends because the height advantage provided by a gently rolling lava beach is insurmountable.
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Jan 15, 2020 00:58
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Good prequel scenes: any episode 3 scenes with villains in them Bad scenes: Pretty much everything else. Top-tier garbage would be someone doing spin moves while Christopher Lee's pasted-on head floats over the screen, amid the mounting horror that you waited two hours for this
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Jan 15, 2020 01:10
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Infidelicious posted:Bad scene: fans: show us two bad-rear end jedi at the height of their power also fans: no not like that
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Jan 15, 2020 01:45
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he has the (moral) high ground also anakin is like, standing on top of a floating platform and jumping straight at him, standing on a river bank. in the fighting all over the towers, they were clinging onto all sorts of nonsense and neither of them had firm footing. you are right, however, in that george lucas should have used more extensive greenscreen and cgi to make the 'gently rolling lava beach' look like a more precarious piece of high ground. there are too many sets and not enough vfx in the prequels
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Jan 15, 2020 01:57
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ungulateman posted:he has the (moral) high ground   
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it's actually a pretty steep hill when you look at it although it's not as immediately visually clear as it could be.
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Horizon Burning posted:fans: show us two bad-rear end jedi at the height of their power to be fair the fight between obi wan and anakin is ridiculously fast and ferocious it doesn't build well but starts with a bang
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Jan 15, 2020 02:06
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Horizon Burning posted:fans: show us two bad-rear end jedi at the height of their power More like show me an interesting fight between two friends with any amount of emotional depth, not wub wub wub tssszzchchch for an eternity then try and pull it back with Obi Wan's monologue .
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ungulateman posted:there are too many sets and not enough vfx in the prequels
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This comes up endlessly and I think it was SMG who finally pointed out that what it actually is that they used some new digital technique or overlaid something or other to make the cgi blend in with the models a bit better so it all looked the same, which obviously succeeded very well at the cost of everyone on earth thinking the latter along with the marketing at the time about the cgi effects
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The action sequence in the control panel room is particularly good. Infidelicious posted:wub wub wub tssszzchchch for an eternity Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 02:49 on Jan 15, 2020 |
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Infidelicious posted:More like show me an interesting fight between two friends with any amount of emotional depth, not wub wub wub tssszzchchch for an eternity then try and pull it back with Obi Wan's monologue The endless sword battle on the erupting volcano is more interesting than the speechy stuff. Specifically, the point of the volcano battle is that it’s a repetition of Throne Room without Luke’s pacifism or Vader’s radical leftism - the two crucial elements that fans ignored. Since the volcano is also, narratively, the last Star Wars action scene, it’s a culmination of not just that failure but of all the previous failures. It’s the ultimate expression of this endless Star Wars cycle of combat between misguided liberals and dipshit fascists. Picture two lightsabers twirling into eachother, forever. But then, “A New Hope” now specifically refers to Padme’s radical act of suicide and to the emergence of Vader. The pacifism and radical leftism are isolated from the chaff of the sword-fight. It’s the ultimate twist. TLJ’s ‘meta’ stuff is artless and redundant by comparison. Obiwan and Anakin’s dialogue during the volcano scene isn’t as important because it’s just two characters who have reached philosophical conclusions that are entirely coherent, entirely opposite, and wrong.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Padme’s radical act of suicide Way past cool!
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:This is so much better than the actual Episode 9 premise that I'm going to make it CANON. Just an excellent short story.
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I liked the Mustafar duel, it's kind of a showcase of two powerful Jedi at their peak, they're so competent their fighting is more like a rehearsed dance, each anticipating the others moves both because they know each other so well but also because of their skill in the force. It's also technically impressive because Ewan and Hayden really nailed the choreography. I just wish that Anakins saber was green or something to distinguish it better against Obis
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Just gonna take this saber, its not like youll need it anymore.
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McCloud posted:I liked the Mustafar duel, it's kind of a showcase of two powerful Jedi at their peak, they're so competent their fighting is more like a rehearsed dance, each anticipating the others moves both because they know each other so well but also because of their skill in the force. The choreography making it look like a rehearsed dance is not a positive thing. For too much of the fight it doesn't actually look like they're trying to hit each other, it's just 15 minutes of that awful sword-tapping that infests the prequels. I suppose the problem is that visually there's not much difference between "anticipating the others moves both because they know each other so well but also because of their skill in the force", and repeating a rote sequence of moves in which it's clear that both participants know that they're not going to hit their opponent.
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Tarnop posted:The choreography making it look like a rehearsed dance is not a positive thing. For too much of the fight it doesn't actually look like they're trying to hit each other, it's just 15 minutes of that awful sword-tapping that infests the prequels. Jedi fights should just be Scanners.
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Tarnop posted:The choreography making it look like a rehearsed dance is not a positive thing. For too much of the fight it doesn't actually look like they're trying to hit each other, it's just 15 minutes of that awful sword-tapping that infests the prequels. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0mUVY9fLlw
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