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In It For The Tank posted:Winds might come out but Dream never will. It also wouldn't surprise me if we got another split book either (e.g "The Winds of Winter" and a "A Time for Wolves") Imagine if he did another meanwhile back at the wall
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Kylaer posted:WoT has fans? There's some guy with a popular Youtube channel that reviews fantasy books and shows that swears it is the greatest fantasy epic ever, and Amazon has a series coming out based on it. Anyone actually read this and can give me an idea how it compares to ASoIaF because the few things I've read about it look pretty terrible.
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Jan 9, 2020 23:13
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There’s a whole thread devoted to the books. It skews to a younger audience and can be quite long winded but Jordan was a good writer. It’s been pretty good on my reread I’ve been doing but it’s definitely fantasy.
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Jan 9, 2020 23:19
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Gimmedaroot posted:There's some guy with a popular Youtube channel that reviews fantasy books and shows that swears it is the greatest fantasy epic ever, and Amazon has a series coming out based on it. Anyone actually read this and can give me an idea how it compares to ASoIaF because the few things I've read about it look pretty terrible. I absolutely loved it when I was 14 and it had some of the most plausible battle scenes. But it gets bogged down hard in the later books and is then finished by Sanderson.
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Jan 9, 2020 23:51
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I love Wheel of Time, but it has hella pacing issues toward the middle. It's pretty standard stuff tho. Should make for good TV if they cut the chaff. It holds the honour of being one of the many series Eragon liberally ripped entire plotlines out of! Anyway WoT is great, if you like fantasy. It's pretty decent as a first fantasy series, maybe? but idk if that's actually true or just because I was already a giant nerd in grade school, so I dug it right away. e: that said i actually never finished it but i look fondly back at the ones i have read and manage to re-read whenever i try to get thru it. there's a lot of fuckin books man
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Is my boy P Jakes still making videos or did the show kill him?
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Invalid Validation posted:There’s a whole thread devoted to the books. It skews to a younger audience and can be quite long winded but Jordan was a good writer. It’s been pretty good on my reread I’ve been doing but it’s definitely fantasy. 'Quite long winded' in the sense that stage 4 pancreatic cancer is 'Quite bad'. You're underselling it a bit.
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banned from Starbucks posted:Is my boy P Jakes still making videos or did the show kill him? He's branched out a bit since there effectively no more material. Last i saw he had some podcast vid about the Mando
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Jan 10, 2020 16:07
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I liked WoT a lot as a teenager and from what I remember there being some elements in it that were really good. I don't know how much I'd enjoy it as an adult though
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Deptfordx posted:'Quite long winded' in the sense that stage 4 pancreatic cancer is 'Quite bad'. You're underselling it a bit. Nah not really, I’m up to book 9 and it’s not as slow as I remember it. Probably because I didn’t have to wait years between books. At least there’s an ending that GoT will never have.
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Jan 10, 2020 16:23
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genericnick posted:I absolutely loved it when I was 14 and it had some of the most plausible battle scenes. But it gets bogged down hard in the later books and is then finished by Sanderson. Someone in this thread said, regarding this, "Robert Jordan experienced combat in Vietnam, Brandon Sanderson experienced combat in tabletop RPGs." And holy poo poo, looking at Jordan's Wikipedia page, it says he was awarded a distinguished flying cross and a bronze star during his two years of service, which sounds like he must have done something significant. Anyone know what the details were for these?
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Jan 10, 2020 17:22
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Kylaer posted:Someone in this thread said, regarding this, "Robert Jordan experienced combat in Vietnam, Brandon Sanderson experienced combat in tabletop RPGs." Someone in the WoT thread said they were Jordans nephew/cousin.
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Kylaer posted:Someone in this thread said, regarding this, "Robert Jordan experienced combat in Vietnam, Brandon Sanderson experienced combat in tabletop RPGs." He was a door gunner on a helicopter, you can probably guess.
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Jan 10, 2020 17:36
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I mean I can't deny I found that scene where a wizard riding a griffin emptied his entire mana pool in the form of deadly fireballs into a defenseless orcish rice farm co-op pretty realistic.
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Found an article that says he was more educated than the average enlisted man and was originally going to be assigned to a clerical role in Vietnam, but asked to be assigned as a door gunner instead. Guess he really didn't want to be a healbot.
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Jan 10, 2020 18:14
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In the end, neither ASoIaF or WoT are as good as the Chronicles fo Amber. And that's okay.
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Gimmedaroot posted:There's some guy with a popular Youtube channel that reviews fantasy books and shows that swears it is the greatest fantasy epic ever, and Amazon has a series coming out based on it. Anyone actually read this and can give me an idea how it compares to ASoIaF because the few things I've read about it look pretty terrible. It's complete right now. That's how it contrasts. You can read it all! How it compares is that asoiaf will also be completed one day by the same author!
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Jan 11, 2020 05:01
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Imma be honest, I tried and failed to read the last two books 3 times before I ran into a version of them mixed together into one gently caress-huge book. Somehow, that made the whole thing click for me. A feast for dragons I think it was called?
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Jan 11, 2020 10:43
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chaosapiant posted:I outright enjoy all five books, and the series as a whole. This is my take as well, thanks for reading my post.
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Jan 11, 2020 13:03
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BrotherJayne posted:Imma be honest, I tried and failed to read the last two books 3 times before I ran into a version of them mixed together into one gently caress-huge book. Somehow, that made the whole thing click for me. I know there's a version of the last two combined called A Ball of Beasts. I keep meaning to re-read the series and finish with that, but I keep getting distracted before I get that far. Anyone know if that's any good?
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Thanks, WoT just looked really generic when it came out and I had stopped reading fantasy by then because so many cookie cutter stories had burned me out. And I heard the middle books were like Feast For Crows and Dance With Dragons but drawn out for FAR longer. I'm fine with Feast and Dance, but two tomes are enough to slow down an epic. Preston Jacobs is still making ASoIaF videos. He dropped one yesterday about a Winds of Winter chapter titled "Mercy". Otherwise he talks about the Mandolorian and Watchmen series on a collaborative podcast. Best Vietnam vet fantasy author I've read Glen Cook's The Black Company series. Big influence on GRRM, not really a kids fantasy series, and based on Cook's platoon in Vietnam. And it was completed.
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Soysaucebeast posted:I know there's a version of the last two combined called A Ball of Beasts. I keep meaning to re-read the series and finish with that, but I keep getting distracted before I get that far. Anyone know if that's any good? I can vouch for feast for dragons, and know where to get that epub. No idea on the other
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BrotherJayne posted:I can vouch for feast for dragons, and know where to get that epub. No idea on the other https://ballofbeasts.weebly.com They do a “copyright check” to make sure you own AFFC and ADWD. It asks for the last word of ADWD’s epilogue.
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Nice! TY I'll try that one instead on the next read
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Soysaucebeast posted:I know there's a version of the last two combined called A Ball of Beasts. I keep meaning to re-read the series and finish with that, but I keep getting distracted before I get that far. Anyone know if that's any good? I really liked Ball of Beasts when I read it. There’s some neat stuff like a chapter from Sam’s perspective from Feast and then the same events from Jon’s perspective from Dance that are set up back to back.
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Jan 11, 2020 19:50
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Bobby Digital posted:https://ballofbeasts.weebly.com Is it both books in full, just intertwined as one, or do they cut out bits of the story?
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chaosapiant posted:Is it both books in full, just intertwined as one, or do they cut out bits of the story? I haven’t read it yet (found the link and downloaded it after it was mentioned) but here’s the chapter listing: Prologue: ADWD 1 Prologue: AFFC 1 The Prophet: AFFC 2 The Captain of Guards: AFFC 3 Cersei I: AFFC 4 Tyrion I: ADWD 2 Daenerys I: ADWD 3 Brienne I: AFFC 5 Jon I: ADWD 4 Bran I: ADWD 5 Tyrion II: ADWD 6 Samwell I: AFFC 6* Jon II: ADWD 8* Arya I: AFFC 7 Cersei II: AFFC 8 Jaime I: AFFC 9 Brienne II: AFFC 10 Sansa I: AFFC 11 The Kraken’s Daughter: AFFC 12 Tyrion III: ADWD 9 Davos I: ADWD 10 Jon III: ADWD 11 Daenerys II: ADWD 12 Cersei III: AFFC 13 Reek I: ADWD 13 Bran II: ADWD 14 The Soiled Knight: AFFC 14 Tyrion IV: ADWD 15 Davos II: ADWD 16 Brienne III: AFFC 15 Samwell II: AFFC 16 Daenerys III: ADWD 17 Jon IV: ADWD 18 Tyrion V: ADWD 19 Davos III: ADWD 20 Jaime II: AFFC 17 Cersei IV: AFFC 18 The Iron Captain: AFFC 19 The Drowned Man: AFFC 20 Brienne IV: AFFC 21 The Queenmaker: AFFC 22 Arya II: AFFC 23 Alayne I: AFFC 24 The Princess in the Tower: AFFC 41 The Merchant’s Man: ADWD 7 Cersei V: AFFC 25 Reek II: ADWD 21 Jon V: ADWD 22 Tyrion VI: ADWD 23 Daenerys IV: ADWD 24 The Lost Lord: ADWD 25 The Windblown: ADWD 26 The Wayward Bride: ADWD 27 Brienne V: AFFC 26 Samwell III: AFFC 27 Jaime III: AFFC 28 Tyrion VII: ADWD 28 Jon VI: ADWD 29 Davos IV: ADWD 30 Cersei VI: AFFC 29 The Reaver: AFFC 30 Daenerys V: ADWD 31 Melisandre I: ADWD 32** Jaime IV: AFFC 31 Brienne VI: AFFC 32 Reek III: ADWD 33 Tyrion VIII: ADWD 34 Cersei VII: AFFC 33 Jaime V: AFFC 34 Cat of the Canals: AFFC 35 Samwell IV: AFFC 36 Cersei VIII: AFFC 37 Brienne VII: AFFC 38 Jaime VI: AFFC 39 Cersei IX: AFFC 40 Bran III: ADWD 35 Jon VII: ADWD 36 Daenerys VI: ADWD 37 The Prince of Winterfell: ADWD 38 The Watcher: ADWD 39 Jon VIII: ADWD 40 Tyrion IX: ADWD 41 The Turncloak: ADWD 42 The King’s Prize: ADWD 43 Daenerys VII: ADWD 44 Alayne II: AFFC 42 Jon IX: ADWD 45 Brienne VIII: AFFC 43 Cersei X: AFFC 44 Jaime VII: AFFC 45 The Blind Girl: ADWD 46 A Ghost in Winterfell: ADWD 47 Tyrion X: ADWD 48 Jaime VIII: ADWD 49 Jon X: ADWD 50 Daenerys VIII: ADWD 51 Samwell V: AFFC 46 Theon VII: ADWD 52 Daenerys IX: ADWD 53 Jon XI: ADWD 54 Cersei XI: ADWD 55 The Queensguard: ADWD 56 The Iron Suitor: ADWD 57 Tyrion XI: ADWD 58 Jon XII: ADWD 59 The Discarded Knight: ADWD 60 The Spurned Suitor: ADWD 61 The Griffin Reborn: ADWD 62 The Sacrifice: ADWD 63 Victarion: ADWD 64*** The Ugly Little Girl: ADWD 65 Cersei XII: ADWD 66 Tyrion XII: ADWD 67 The Kingbreaker: ADWD 68 The Dragontamer: ADWD 69 Jon XIII: ADWD 70 The Queen’s Hand: ADWD 71 Daenerys X: ADWD 72 Epilogue: ADWD 73 *These chapters have been combined into one for A Ball of Beasts **This chapter has been renamed The Red Priestess in A Ball of Beasts ***This chapter has been renamed The One of Two Gods in A Ball of Beasts
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Boonoo posted:I really liked Ball of Beasts when I read it. Yeah, Feast for Dragons did that too I'm curious as to how they'll differ
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Gimmedaroot posted:Best Vietnam vet fantasy author I've read Glen Cook's The Black Company series. Big influence on GRRM, not really a kids fantasy series, and based on Cook's platoon in Vietnam. And it was completed. I'm not sure being completed helped The Black Company.
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A Ball of Beasts was good and I recommend reading that instead of 4&5.
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https://twitter.com/GRRMspeaking/status/1216763123195092992
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cool. i guess. i am kinda waiting for the next installment of that, which will hopefully come out after winds.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:cool. i guess. i am kinda waiting for the next installment of that, which will hopefully come out after winds. lmao nice one
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mossyfisk posted:I'm not sure being completed helped The Black Company. I'm not sure I would even call it completed, since he wrote a sidequel last year that retroactively alters the entire narrative (or maybe not) and he's been threatening to write a concluding volume for the last fifteen years.
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Some great comments on his last couple of (re)tweets. https://twitter.com/Capitan00teri/status/1215059307408084994 https://twitter.com/citizenmonarch/status/1215023994199592960 No one has given a poo poo enough about Wild Cards to respond substantively or answer the question.
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Everytime someone talks about this series not finishing before they die I remember that GRRM outlived Tom Clancy lmfao
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I think you’ll find that they will make Tom Clancy games till the end of time while Gurm will be forgotten immediately. Who is laughing then? It’s me.
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Invalid Validation posted:I think you’ll find that they will make Tom Clancy games till the end of time while Gurm will be forgotten immediately. Who is laughing then? honestly i am kinda surprised they never pulled off a good GOT/ASoLaF game. the best i can think of is a mount and blade mod. they had a really meh DA type rpg i believe. i remember hearing rumors one of the big publishers had one in the works but its way to late now.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:honestly i am kinda surprised they never pulled off a good GOT/ASoLaF game. the best i can think of is a mount and blade mod. they had a really meh DA type rpg i believe. i remember hearing rumors one of the big publishers had one in the works but its way to late now. The GoT mod for Crusader Kings II is pretty good
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Invalid Validation posted:I think you’ll find that they will make Tom Clancy games till the end of time while Gurm will be forgotten immediately. Who is laughing then? That book has definitely aged, especially the 1 dimensional characters, but holy gently caress I loved that when I read it in highschool. But I was like super into SLCMs, GLCMS, SLOCs and Glocks back then. Which is a title I stole from some policy review, and definitely should have been turned into a nursery rhyme. slick'm glick'm slocks and glock around the world they tick and tock slick'm and glick'm let you see you better not mess with slocs near me too bad they couldn't save the jock at the highschool from that angry glock I don't know it's like a commentary on militarizing the world, but like, expecting that never to come home to us? or something? i don't know I need to get back to work.
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