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Jan 6, 2020 15:51
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i think that’s a comparison someone posted a few months ago that’s like “blizzcon 2018 culling of stratholme preview VS what the game looks like currently”. but i’m just now noticing the 6-wide command card in the blizzcon preview. what’s the deal with that
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Jan 6, 2020 17:01
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FoolyCharged posted:Oh hey, they put the editor and customs in. Anyone seen if they did much with either of those? All I know is they've been progressively adding data to the map file format but I have no idea what it's for.
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Jan 6, 2020 20:01
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e: Nevermind looks like this was already asked!
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Jan 7, 2020 01:19
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uniball posted:but i’m just now noticing the 6-wide command card in the blizzcon preview. what’s the deal with that Part of the updated UI, which was so hugely unpopular that when I mentioned that I hated it to the bluetags running the demo stations they were like "yyyyyyeah that's what everyone's said so far".
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Jan 7, 2020 23:12
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Just played a game and when I selected group 2 full of riflemen my Paladin was also following the orders I was giving them despite being only in group1. 
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Jan 13, 2020 21:02
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clan towa does it again...this time winning a 6 hour and 12 minute mountaineer on Upper Kingdom! here's the replay, here's the vid. there are chapter timestamps in the youtube description the highlights:
 (he blocked me and deleted his messages after we won)  quote:(120:26 / All) Timbx: i am upset
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Jan 14, 2020 03:40
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Jan 14, 2020 05:52
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If you are reading this post then Nunoh is a liar and a coward. Fight me IRL on the internet
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Jan 14, 2020 05:58
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uniball posted:clan towa does it again...this time winning a 6 hour and 12 minute mountaineer on Upper Kingdom! Having some real difficulty wrapping my head around this.
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Jan 14, 2020 06:03
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 I had to keep nagging him to turn his rent-a-DoS service back on, so in the end I think it was only about 20 minutes in total before he ran out of Monero or whatever.
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Jan 14, 2020 06:20
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lmao y'all are doing the lords work.
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Jan 14, 2020 06:39
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I don’t want to play WC3 I just want to watch y’all do this again and again. I mean, really, a reprisal in the form of a DDOS attack??? In TYOOL 2020?!?! OVER A WARCRAFT 3 STRATEGY??! Y’all are truly, honestly, awesome people.
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Jan 14, 2020 06:44
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I'm speechless.
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Jan 14, 2020 10:53
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Holy poo poo, absolute kings the lot of you
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Jan 14, 2020 23:08
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quote:they posted a link from a malicious link shortener in my twitch chat and got iggy's home IP address, then ddos'd him out of the game Extremely hardcore salt
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Jan 15, 2020 00:28
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I really enjoy at about the hour and 40 min mark when one of you mentions they have a friend coming over in an hour and you all say "Oh well, I'm sure this will be settled by then."
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Jan 15, 2020 00:33
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I mean, to their credit that's not necessarily a lie. From what I understand most people call it quits before the game hits 3 hours.
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Jan 15, 2020 00:43
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that game was absolutely settled the moment they stopped attacking my expansion on bottom, probably before that point as well
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Jan 15, 2020 00:53
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the combination of no win record and Reforged being fully AT vs. RT means the vast majority of our opponents have extremely limited patience for our bullshit. our average gamelength on most maps in the beta mappool is around 30 minutes for gods sake. shameful anyway iirc we weren't sure they were an Arranged Team until well into the post-perch-assault stage.
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Jan 15, 2020 02:06
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man the lengths some people will go to to prove they're not being loving clowned on all levels
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Jan 15, 2020 06:51
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"I'm not owned! I'm not owned!" I continue to insist as I shrink and transform into a score screen.
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Jan 15, 2020 09:37
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uniball posted:the combination of no win record and Reforged being fully AT vs. RT means the vast majority of our opponents have extremely limited patience for our bullshit. our average gamelength on most maps in the beta mappool is around 30 minutes for gods sake. shameful Hadn't heard about the combination of AT and RT. Is this for live as well as beta, or unknown? That seems like a pretty dumb idea, even if it would probably help with queue times. Is it known if there is actually going to be a proper ladder with stats, like back in the day?
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Jan 15, 2020 13:38
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Sticko posted:Hadn't heard about the combination of AT and RT. Is this for live as well as beta, or unknown? That seems like a pretty dumb idea, even if it would probably help with queue times. There's a proper ladder for War3 now, always has been, there's just nobody playing it. I don't know if this real bad $30 remake is gonna make a player-base reappear.
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Jan 15, 2020 13:54
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I was hoping to get back into War3 with the release of the update so I definitely think there would at least be a small boost.
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Jan 15, 2020 13:57
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Elephunk posted:There's a proper ladder for War3 now, always has been, there's just nobody playing it. Oh I know there is still is one for classic (and that noone plays it - I managed to push up to top couple of dozen by just going bloodlust tauren). I was just getting worried about the comment on no win records. I kinda wish that they would bring fix the record and stat website that they had back in the day, but that is probably too much to ask for.
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Jan 15, 2020 14:05
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I wish I could get my old icons back!
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Jan 15, 2020 14:12
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There's win records and unlockable icons in reforged beta but they're getting reset at release so they matter even less than normal. There doesn't seem to be any ELO matchmaking, it just puts you in a game against anybody, which makes the AT vs RT thing dumb, but if they add that I think it will work very well. The only reason I stopped playing WC3 is because the AT playerbase totally dried up, in 2018 there were <10 3v3 AT games being served per week, and absolutely no 4v4 AT games happening at all no matter how long you searched. Being able to match vs RT is better than nothing and honestly at high levels RT players are better than most people give them credit for. Reforged also lets you search in the 4v4 queue as a 2s AT team (which will put you on a 4s team with 2 randoms) which is an exciting new game type that's already delivered some great games for us.
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Jan 15, 2020 14:37
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Elephunk posted:There's a proper ladder for War3 now, always has been, there's just nobody playing it. Serious mansplainy post here They said "like back in the day" so clearly they know a ladder already exists. They're asking about the remake, duh.
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Jan 15, 2020 22:03
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With Starcraft II's release in 2010, Blizzard decided that matching AT vs RT was ok, so long as they compensated for it by making AT teams have a big adjusted MMR (match making rating) advantage relative to an RT team made up of players of the same individual MMR. This meant that an identical mid diamond AT team would be expected to maul an identical mid diamond RT team, but the RT team would gain more points and MMR if they won. Of course this system was ruthlessly exploitable and I did so for years. Eventually it was fixed so that going 5-0 in placements would almost never place your AT directly into master league, but you can still exploit the poo poo out of it by doing repeated placements with good players to rack up wins for XP and portraits. An especially infamous player named PROTOTYPE had a number of 'Bronze league' friends he'd partner up with to do 3v3 team games, who were in fact master/diamond in skill. I ran into him a few times, usually losing because unless I was in an AT, his exploitation meant whoever my non-party ally was sucked. Oh that's another thing, you can still search 4v4 with a party of 3 in Sc2 and it counts toward your individual RT rank, not AT. It's very beneficial and became a standard thing to do at master league level. There's probably little to no ranking system in the beta, so the game has little data to work with knowing how much advantage to assign AT vs RT.
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Jan 16, 2020 01:21
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Flayer posted:I wish I could get my old icons back! I unlocked the Rifleman several times, the Sorceress, Huntress and Headhunters once. I tried really hard to keep logging in once a month 2005-2006 to keep all my unlocks, but eventually messed up like everyone. I still swear one of my account wipes happened after only like 2.5 months instead of 3 like they said  The thing about AT vs RT is, even if they make a really big MMR disadvantage for the AT team, it's still at worst a double edged sword for good players. It can cut against them if their teamwork is subpar, but cut for them if they're well practiced and organized together. Teamwork and planning ability is a huge X factor the system can't prepare for. It gives the best players another tool to potentially get even further ahead. But I think it's probably for the better overall, as it cut match search times down in SC2. Back in 2014, Heart of the Swarm 2v2 AT vs RT was so common that most players in my 2v2 RT Diamond division were underwater with significantly more losses than wins. I was too, like 15-17, 19-20, the very game I equalized 25-25 was what promoted me to Master. Until that moment I'd thought I was underperforming, but the promotion proved it was just the AT vs RT dynamic. Since the system sounds similar, I bet that sorta thing could happen again in Reforged.
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I don't give a rat's butt for 1 second about my record or MMR or icon loot boxes, as long as the system
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Jan 16, 2020 04:18
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I wonder what the deal is with Reforged. The Starcraft remaster was pretty solid, and the additions they made (art instead of just text on the screen between missions) were pretty cool. Everything looks about what you'd expect from such an undertaking except maybe the Hydralisk Den. Meanwhile, Reforged seems like they bit off way more than they could chew - redone voice acting, redone in-game cutscenes, redone lore, new campaign maps, new UI! That's on top of just updating every single model and graphic in the game, which is obviously a much bigger undertaking for Warcraft 3 than Starcraft. Especially when they said they were updating all the repeat models and such (which is a really cool feature.) But not only is Reforged late, it seems like they've dropped a lot of the things they claimed to be working on. For better or worse, there won't be any new voice acting, the in-game cutscenes will be as they were in Warcraft 3, the story won't be changed, and it's unclear if the maps will be altered at all. Horizon Burning fucked around with this message at 04:31 on Jan 17, 2020 |
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Jan 17, 2020 04:27
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Horizon Burning posted:But not only is Reforged late, it seems like they've dropped a lot of the things they claimed to be working on. For better or worse, there won't be any new voice acting, the in-game cutscenes will be as they were in Warcraft 3, the story won't be changed, and it's unclear if the maps will be altered at all. Every one of those concessions is for the better, and I can only hope it's because someone in Blizzard has some sense.
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Jan 17, 2020 05:09
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:Every one of those concessions is for the better, and I can only hope it's because someone in Blizzard has some sense. Oh, definitely. Don't get me wrong, I wasn't particularly interested in any of that as I haven't paid any attention to Warcraft since Frozen Throne wrapped up, but it just seems very strange to advertise that sort of thing, take pre-orders on it, have the Stratholm demo... and then drop it all. I would've liked it just to see what would've been different.
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Jan 17, 2020 05:46
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Almost all of the things that Reforged dropped weren't because of time constraints, it was because of the massive backlash to them changing. The only reason the art style remained instead of going back to a more cartoony/WoW aesthetic was because Blizzard already made the vast majority of models and couldn't shoulder the cost of refactoring them.
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Jan 17, 2020 06:14
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:Every one of those concessions is for the better, and I can only hope it's because someone in Blizzard has some sense. Yeah but you just know its Activision pressuring them to deliver something so they have a skeleton crew working on remastered
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Jan 17, 2020 07:32
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I wonder if they fully realized how many models and doodads they would need HR remasters for beyond the models used in actual melee games. There are a lot of unique units in the campagins that don't appear in ladder matches, and when you're already crunched on time and budget, I can't imagine wanting to spend much on units that appear for about three minutes on one Kael'thas map
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Anyone got the discord link for those playing WC3 right now? I am in it and got another goon playing but can't create him an invite.
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