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Crowetron posted:I liked that Vega was doing his AI thing of trying to be helpful at all times because that's all he's programmed to do. He's not an evil SHODAN knock-off or a wise-cracking robo sidekick. He's just Clippy for killing demons. If Clippy could have regrets. Really looking forward to seeing what his role will be in Eternal. Alternatively, if they somehow forget/underplay the hook they left with the backup, I may break something.
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Jan 15, 2020 04:08
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Cocoa Crispies posted:I’m trying to figure out what classic Doom music this is based on. JerryLee posted:If Clippy could have regrets. ETPC posted:hey
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Jan 15, 2020 04:44
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i am so pumped for doom eternal, but i was thinking the other day about procedural games and how none of them are any good and then it hit me: the best procedural game of all time is teleglitch, and it isn't really even close and that game, due to how it did its levels and arenas, could be made 3d in a way that is pretty reasonable (think strafe but not bad) someone plz make this
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Jan 15, 2020 05:11
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As a person who likes a lot of procedural games, and absoltely loves Teleglitch, I gotta say that's a pretty rare take. Shine on, you crazy nutter.
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Jan 15, 2020 05:56
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I just looked up Teleglitch and that game looks like absolute trash what the hell?
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Jan 15, 2020 06:36
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teleglitch fuckin whips rear end
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Jan 15, 2020 06:37
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Teleglitch owns a lot but it can be super brutal and it goes for a certain aesthetic which can be hard to read for some.
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Jan 15, 2020 06:39
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Yah IMO teleglitch was pretty choice. If you don't mind top-down stuff, a lot of the weapon sounds/feel and the color palette and even just the tense exploring are in the wheelhouse for folks that enjoy retro FPS.
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Jan 15, 2020 06:39
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I don't mind top down games but from all the footage I could comb through it looks slow, ugly, and impossible to read. Like, people kept walking into things that suddenly open that I only then realized were supposed to be doors and every enemy looked like an unidentifiable blob. Also the way it did weird shadows to block line of sight made actually figuring out what a room looked like kind of nightmarish. I dunno, I guess I'm the minority or I'll like it more if I tried it but that game looked like the jankiest unfun poo poo at a glance.
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Jan 15, 2020 06:43
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Nah, Teleglitch is top shelf roguelike and pretty much the closest thing to Doom and Quake/2 in a non-FPS format. It's 75% off right now so you might as well try it.
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Jan 15, 2020 06:59
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GUI posted:That "cutscene" with Olivia is like 30 seconds long tops. The Olivia bit also has a small Tim & Eric Easter egg hidden in it too, so is worth it. The plot is hilarious and firmly tongue in cheek. I love the corporate speak codex entries for the creatures and areas. Doom 4 posted:If there is no obvious escape route and you have powered down your equipment, give yourself over to the demon willingly. Studies have shown that infuriating a demon by running away can cause additional frustration in the predator, and that may result in your body being too badly mutilated for useful post mortem study. Simply kneel down, close your eyes, and wait. Remember you can be as useful in death as you are in life.
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The Kins posted:[list]  "E1M1 is pretty nice."
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Jan 15, 2020 08:51
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Invisible Inc is actually the best procedural game but Teleglitch is pretty high up there if what you’re looking for is someone’s spiritual take on Westwood’s unsung Gauntlet clone Nox.
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Jan 15, 2020 09:12
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Oh how I loved Nox... more than Diablo, in fact.
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Jan 15, 2020 09:28
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Nox is a better game than Diablo2 in almost every regard, excepting the only ones that mattered in the end: Marketing/Hype, and The ability to sink a thousand hours into it grinding the same content. That they where released two weeks from each other was a total disaster, RIP Nox you where too good for us.
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Jan 15, 2020 10:07
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I need to pick up Nox on GOG at some point. When I was a kid I loved watching my dad play it. I really liked Teleglitch, but I never got far.
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Jan 15, 2020 10:15
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Teleglitch is playing Doom from the map, but it's Quake, but it's a roguelite.
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Serephina posted:Nox is a better game than Diablo2 in almost every regard, excepting the only ones that mattered in the end: Marketing/Hype, and The ability to sink a thousand hours into it grinding the same content. That they where released two weeks from each other was a total disaster, RIP Nox you where too good for us. What nox was rear end very fun but rear end
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Jan 15, 2020 10:42
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Nox's multiplayer was like top down Overwatch. It was the first time I recall all the now-typical modern multiplayer class features which makes sense coming from the company that defined the modern RTS. A real skill based game and they quoted Quake 3 and Unreal Tournament as inspiration for the design.
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Jan 15, 2020 10:52
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al-azad posted:Invisible Inc is actually the best procedural game but Teleglitch is pretty high up there if what you’re looking for is someone’s spiritual take on Westwood’s unsung Gauntlet clone Nox. Yes, thank you. Invisible Inc is waaaaay better than even Klei is giving it credit for, and it really needs to be ported. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJr8yI-q8AA
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Glagha posted:I just looked up Teleglitch and that game looks like absolute trash what the hell? Nah friend Teleglitch absolutely slaps, and I HATE procedurally generated garbage roguelike fuckoff poo poo games. 90s Cringe Rock posted:Teleglitch is playing Doom from the map, but it's Quake, but it's a roguelite. It's this. It's awesome. One of my fav indie games.
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Jan 15, 2020 13:23
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You guys are selling me Teleglitch so hard that I'll have to get it this evening...
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Jan 15, 2020 13:26
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I forgot that invisible inc was procedural which is probably an indication of how good it is I still maintain that teleglitch is fuckin aaaaaaaweeeeesome and should be remade as a FPS because it would work really really well
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al-azad posted:Nox's multiplayer was like top down Overwatch. It was the first time I recall all the now-typical modern multiplayer class features which makes sense coming from the company that defined the modern RTS. A real skill based game and they quoted Quake 3 and Unreal Tournament as inspiration for the design. The multiplayer kicked rear end.
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Jan 15, 2020 14:58
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Tim Thomas posted:I forgot that invisible inc was procedural which is probably an indication of how good it is Strafe is that game  I'm joking, Strafe sucks.
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Jan 15, 2020 16:57
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Guillermus posted:Strafe is that game Tim Thomas posted:and that game, due to how it did its levels and arenas, could be made 3d in a way that is pretty reasonable (think strafe but not bad) Tim Thomas posted:could be made 3d in a way that is pretty reasonable (think strafe but not bad) Tim Thomas posted:(think strafe but not bad) i'm just joshin but MAN strafe should have been so so much better!
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It definitely had potential and I don't mind the graphic style but the enemies, weapon sounds and maps are meh.
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Jan 15, 2020 17:12
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Guillermus posted:It definitely had potential and I don't mind the graphic style but the enemies, weapon sounds and maps are meh. Yeah I liked Strafe but it is really mediocre compared to what I hoped it would be. Teleglitch on the other hand is fun, but agressively difficult. Also for all the talk of how it's like Doom and Quake to a degree, I'm surprised nobody's mentioned it also being a lot like System Shock in tone.
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Jan 15, 2020 17:23
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Guillermus posted:You guys are selling me Teleglitch so hard that I'll have to get it this evening... Teleglitch would be real good if the enemies weren't unreadable blobs
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Jan 15, 2020 17:36
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Teleglitch is playing Doom from the map, but it's Quake & System Shock & Half-Life, but it's a roguelite.
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Jan 15, 2020 17:46
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dis astranagant posted:Teleglitch would be real good if the enemies weren't unreadable blobs  teleglitch is an ugly game about ugly things and it fuckin slaps i get that people don't like the art style but i struggle with the concept that people can't differentiate between the monsters 90s Cringe Rock posted:Teleglitch is playing Doom from the map, but it's Quake & System Shock & Half-Life, but it's a roguelite. right, which is why it would loving punish to just play not from the map maybe i should try to code it for gzdoom? who fuckin knows
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I find it hard to play for the same reasons I find it beautiful, I just can't handle playing it in 2D. 3D Teleglitch would be a hell of a thing, and probably easier to parse. I'm not saying DO IT, but
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if that rumored reboot of quake being done by machinegames is real and in active development, i hope they taking a very close look at teleglitch in terms of Vibe teleglitch is a precursor to dusk, imho
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The worst part of wolfenstein is the gameplay so I hope machine games doesn’t make quake.
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Jan 15, 2020 19:18
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Eh, they have at least three good Quake mappers working there, and DOPA was quite fine as a retro-ish episode. Maybe if they made a modern Quake they would fail to translate their skills but I would definitely be at least optimistically curious to see what they would do. (Not that I think such a reboot actually is happening. I think there were just some wishful-thinking comments from a dude.)
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quake is.... hm. i like quake more for the insane mods that it begat and the fabulous games that used the engine more than the game itself. like i can name at least five quake-engined games i like better than quake edit: hm it appears that i am wrong and that most of the five i'm thinking of (Half-Life, SiN, Kingpin, Soldier of Fortune, Hexen II) are Q2 engine  edit edit: yes i know that HL is goldsrc but you know what i mean
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Jan 15, 2020 19:27
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i want a intense character study/military cosmic horror sci-fi of what constant teleportation through countless nightmarish realms does to someone tbqh
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Jan 15, 2020 19:57
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ah, a character study of gamers
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ETPC posted:i want a intense character study/military cosmic horror sci-fi of what constant teleportation through countless nightmarish realms does to someone tbqh event horizon exists, tho?
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