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Jan 15, 2020 19:08
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Does anyone really believe Warren wasn't behind it after she wouldn't shake Sanders's hand?
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Jan 15, 2020 19:10
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There is no 2nd choice. It is ride or die Bernie. It has always been this and we were fooling ourselves to think otherwise.
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Jan 15, 2020 19:12
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kidkissinger posted:Her attempt to poision the well for Bernie will not work. The liberals WILL bend the knee. The science of Marxism is invincible and history is on our side. My coworkers discussed last night's debate. We literally wear lanyards by the way (  for me  ). They didn't mention the sexism spat at all but did speak a lot of common nonsense about Warren having good plans, and Bernie being angry with no idea how to reach his goals, and such, but point is they agreed - they're voting blue no matter who.
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SuperKlaus posted:My coworkers discussed last night's debate. We literally wear lanyards by the way ( As long as you don't work for a DC ThinkTank or media company we can probably divert you to the gulag. I'll put in a word with the commissar.
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Groovelord Neato posted:Does anyone really believe Warren wasn't behind it after she wouldn't shake Sanders's hand? It is shocking how easily Warren could have back pedaled on this. “Well, Bernie said something like ‘the road to the presidency is just going to be harder for a woman because misogyny’, but it was taken out of context. As a woman blah blah blah.”
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Jan 15, 2020 19:17
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Man, that Michael Moore podcast just lays it all out there. Plus, the excerp from her book where she literally goes "I don't remember the words that are said in on record conversations." If you believe her over him at this point it's due to a preexisting bias. If Warren had backpeddled the way Capt Obv suggested, this would be nothing and we could go back to loling at the pearl clutching over the non-offensive script. Or, as others suggested, if she just decided to break bad for real and go whole hog with it, she'd at least have possibly moved the needle a bit. She's dishonest AND poo poo at politics.
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Jan 15, 2020 19:22
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Madmarker posted:Yeah, Warren's attacking of Bernie has really hosed her here. This is extremely good art and if Bernie decides to come out harder against Warren after this (he won't) it would make some great merchandise.
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Actually the very entertaining thing is my coworkers complained of media bias in the questions Warren received versus Butt. "Butt, what are your strengths?" V "Warren, how do you stop your weaknesses?". This is very interesting as I think I can use basic recognition that corporate media sucks as a wedge to pry in and dislodge their beliefs that Sanders didn't fight for Clinton in 2016 and so forth, and set them on the true path.
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Jan 15, 2020 19:26
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Halloween Jack posted:Had to have high, high hopes for the women Oh godDAMNIT I just got that tune out of my head, now it's back  
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Jan 15, 2020 19:27
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My favorite part about the (general) election is that, if somebody I don't like ends up getting the nomination, I can just leave that bubble blank, because I live in California and the Electoral College exists. This is also my least favorite part about the election.
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https://twitter.com/IlhanMN/status/1217507453052628994?s=20 ilhan's got tweets following trying to patch the rift that warren opened. sucks that she's gotta take that role thanks to warren being a shithead opportunist
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CPColin posted:My favorite part about the (general) election is that, if somebody I don't like ends up getting the nomination, I can just leave that bubble blank, because I live in California and the Electoral College exists. I'm just thankful that my trumpist relatives all live in New York so the same applies to them.
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Hellblazer187 posted:Man, that Michael Moore podcast just lays it all out there. Plus, the excerp from her book where she literally goes "I don't remember the words that are said in on record conversations." If you believe her over him at this point it's due to a preexisting bias. Hillary campaign staffers: not even once.
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Jan 15, 2020 19:39
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Saw some new head-to-heads vs Trump on https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/ Florida: Sanders +6 Biden +2 Warren +2 Buttigieg 0 Michigan: Bloomberg +7 Biden +6 Sanders +5 Buttigieg +4 Warren +3
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Jan 15, 2020 19:40
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Built 4 Cuban Linux posted:Saw some new head-to-heads vs Trump on https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/ is michigan one of the handful of states bloomberg is targeting?
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Jan 15, 2020 19:43
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i try not to get too excited about "potential head to head" polling since the accuracy of these polls is usually dubious, but they tend to favor the incumbent more than they should, so I'll accept that as a 10 point win for Bernie in Florida
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Jan 15, 2020 19:45
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Hellblazer187 posted:Man, that Michael Moore podcast just lays it all out there. Plus, the excerp from her book where she literally goes "I don't remember the words that are said in on record conversations." If you believe her over him at this point it's due to a preexisting bias. Here's the link for anyone that wants it: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/michael-moore-4/rumble-with-michael-moore I'm not a fan of Moore but he's right more often than not and probably has a better political analysis than most pundits out there.
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Someone in the thread was saying they wondered how DKos was handling this but didn't want to check for fear of a heart attack. The entire first page is on impeachment stuff right now. Top post on the second page is a poll for who won the debate, and surprisingly the Kos crowd has Bernie winning with 53% of the vote, and Warren a distant second with 25%.
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Jan 15, 2020 19:47
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Gripweed posted:Let's game out what would happen if this works. Let's say that Warren ends up the nominee. Then what happens in the general? Trump already referenced this debacle at a rally, he said it didn't sound like something Sanders would say. And we've known for months what his anti-Warren strategy would be; "Pocahontas" she lied about being a Native American to advance her career. But now he has a second example of Warren lying to advance her career, and one we all saw her do live on television! That will destroy her credibility. Trump will bring it up constantly and every time he does every single Sanders supporter, which is at least a solid 20% of Dem voters, will be reminded "oh yeah she is a loving liar" Only an absolute madman would do anything in the general other than vote for Trump’s competition. There’s no way anyone who’s for Bernie can stay home after 2016, even if it’s Biden against Trump.
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Jan 15, 2020 19:48
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:Only an absolute madman would do anything in the general other than vote for Trump’s competition. There’s no way anyone who’s for Bernie can stay home after 2016, even if it’s Biden against Trump. If it's a standard dem, it's the amoral vs the immoral. I'll still vote D no matter what because "soulless middle manager" is still better than "actual death cult" but I'm way past the point of blaming someone else for being BoB.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:Only an absolute madman would do anything in the general other than vote for Trump’s competition. There’s no way anyone who’s for Bernie can stay home after 2016, even if it’s Biden against Trump. It's too bad because his supporters will stay home. So the only moral choice in the primary is to vote Sanders.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:Only an absolute madman would do anything in the general other than vote for Trump’s competition. There’s no way anyone who’s for Bernie can stay home after 2016, even if it’s Biden against Trump. I'll vote third party or leave the presidency blank.
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Hellblazer187 posted:If it's a standard dem, it's the amoral vs the immoral. I'll still vote D no matter what because "soulless middle manager" is still better than "actual death cult" but I'm way past the point of blaming someone else for being BoB. Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 19:53 on Jan 15, 2020 |
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:Only an absolute madman would do anything in the general other than vote for Trump’s competition. There’s no way anyone who’s for Bernie can stay home after 2016, even if it’s Biden against Trump. come to my apartment on election day if Biden is on the ticket against Trump to witness the madness firsthand.
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I don't want to back seat mod, but talking about who you'l vote for in the general is specifically against thread rules because it leads to massive, pointless derails.
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Does anyone have a Warren campaign suspension -watch setup yet? I want to guess she ends her campaign before the Iowa caucus.
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Mat Cauthon posted:Here's the link for anyone that wants it: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/michael-moore-4/rumble-with-michael-moore I said this earlier this morning but, Moore is decorum poisoned when it comes to solutions, but he's been 100% right about the problems since the 90's. He's also like Bernie by being the only dude with the balls to publicly move the discourse, even when it's incredibly unpopular.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:Only an absolute madman would do anything in the general other than vote for Trump’s competition. There’s no way anyone who’s for Bernie can stay home after 2016, even if it’s Biden against Trump. Oh yeah for sure man, I can't wait to vote for Joe Biden so he can dither around not passing M4A or ending the wars or closing the immigrant camps or stopping children from being stolen from their parents or doing something about worsening income inequality and ever more exploitation economy that is one bad day away from another generation wrecking crash because ....midterms? Bipartisanship? Some other bullshit? Meanwhile all the middle class liberals will breath a sigh of relief about having someone back in the White House to do things "the right way" and lose any motivation they had to change things.
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Young Freud posted:Does anyone have a Warren campaign suspension -watch setup yet? She won't drop out until at least after NH. If she comes in third or worse in both, she's done. She isn't getting back her supporters who went to Bernie, and any defections from Biden are going to Mayor Butt.
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Built 4 Cuban Linux posted:Saw some new head-to-heads vs Trump on https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/ Bloomberg wins Michigan by 7 against Trump. Sure, ok.
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Jan 15, 2020 19:57
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Bernie +6 in Florida is pretty lit.
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ratbert90 posted:After a long day of supporting womens rights and fighting for equality, Bernie comes home, kicks off his shoes and looks around to make sure nobody is there. Basicall this https://youtu.be/60dFtPjk_I0
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https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1217505562360983555 what the hell is this
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Jan 15, 2020 19:58
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Groovelord Neato posted:Does anyone really believe Warren wasn't behind it after she wouldn't shake Sanders's hand? Yes, most Warren voters absolutely believe that.
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oxsnard posted:https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1217505562360983555 A sex assaulting liar.
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oxsnard posted:https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1217505562360983555 James 'O Keefe stirring some poo poo again
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