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WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Turkey owning the M40 highway is a death sentence to the Kurds. Its basically the sudentland. Just a matter of time.

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JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

Turkey owning the M40 highway is a death sentence to the Kurds. Its basically the sudentland. Just a matter of time.

This is so incredibly grim.

Herostratus
May 1, 2013

Gimmick Account posted:

According to the Guardian, Turkey has already deployed 2000 of its Syrian auxiliaries to Libya in an attempt to turn the tide again.

Erdogan really is the final nail in the coffin of the Syrian Revolution. If you were to put a gun against my head and forced me to take anything positive out of this, I'd say 'Well, maybe this will at least take some pressure off the Kurds', but yeah, I'm not particularly feeling that, either.

So we have Turks and Syrians fighting Russians and Sudanese on Lybian soil. Its like the Spanish Civil War all over again.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Randarkman posted:

Check out 'the Last Ottoman Generation' for a pretty recent book about the last generation of Ottoman military and administrative officials and the role they played in the post-WWI Middle East.

MinisterSinister posted:

Ah yes, I just read this one a few months ago. Definitely recommend it.

As for Turkey, Zurcher's Turkey: A Modern History might be a bit dry and textbook-like, but it is an excellent and comprehensive overview of Turkish history from the birth of the republic to the first years of Erdoğan's administration.

Thanks all, I didn't manage to find a reasonable copy of Last Ottoman Generation or Shaykh of Shaykhs here yet (don't want to ship from the US) but Turkey was available locally. Cool!

Saladman
Jan 12, 2010
NYT released security cam footage of the Iran AA attack https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/14/world/iran-plane-crash-video.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage showing clearly two missiles fired, which would certainly explain why some people were filming already during the second missile launch. The second missile is fired a few seconds after the first missile explodes. Fairly Gut wrenching even if it’s grainy security cam footage from a long distance.

Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

Turkey owning the M40 highway is a death sentence to the Kurds. Its basically the sudentland. Just a matter of time.

If you mean M4, the regime controls almost all of it.

Gimmick Account posted:

According to the Guardian, Turkey has already deployed 2000 of its Syrian auxiliaries to Libya in an attempt to turn the tide again.

Erdogan really is the final nail in the coffin of the Syrian Revolution. If you were to put a gun against my head and forced me to take anything positive out of this, I'd say 'Well, maybe this will at least take some pressure off the Kurds', but yeah, I'm not particularly feeling that, either.

IMO the death knell of the revolution (at least the radical phase of it--the death knell of the original revolution was when the jihadists took over) was Turkey pulling rebels out of Aleppo to fight the Kurds. This is just a more blatant version of the same thing, which is subordinating their interests to Turkish interests in exchange for whatever protection Turkey's willing to offer, because the rebels don't really have anywhere else to turn.

Frond
Mar 12, 2018

Al-Saqr posted:

gently caress my life I wish someone would start dropping bombs on haftar already. I am sick and tired of these fascist animals gaining any ground.

Don’t fret, the “Invincible Salafi Warriors” from the SNA will turn the tide.

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Saladman posted:

NYT released security cam footage of the Iran AA attack https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/14/world/iran-plane-crash-video.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage showing clearly two missiles fired, which would certainly explain why some people were filming already during the second missile launch. The second missile is fired a few seconds after the first missile explodes. Fairly Gut wrenching even if it’s grainy security cam footage from a long distance.
Link for non-subscribers?

TK-42-1
Oct 30, 2013

looks like we have a bad transmitter



Grouchio posted:

Link for non-subscribers?

Just go incognito. It should let you in if my experience is anything.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

TK-42-1 posted:

Just go incognito. It should let you in if my experience is anything.

Hah that works, thanks. It still wants you to log in but the video is unobstructed and playable. Also holy poo poo, that's easily in visible range and they'd probably be able to see the navigation lights if they looked outside.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Sinteres posted:

If you mean M4, the regime controls almost all of it.


IMO the death knell of the revolution (at least the radical phase of it--the death knell of the original revolution was when the jihadists took over) was Turkey pulling rebels out of Aleppo to fight the Kurds. This is just a more blatant version of the same thing, which is subordinating their interests to Turkish interests in exchange for whatever protection Turkey's willing to offer, because the rebels don't really have anywhere else to turn.

Yes m4. The right side of the highway connectd iraq and syrian kurdistan. The left is of neglible importance. The other crossing is 40km south and doesnt have the throughput as m40.Reinforcing either canton is going to be hard with a 3 or 4x longer distance to cross.

Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN

TK-42-1 posted:

Just go incognito. It should let you in if my experience is anything.

mobby_6kl posted:

Hah that works, thanks. It still wants you to log in but the video is unobstructed and playable. Also holy poo poo, that's easily in visible range and they'd probably be able to see the navigation lights if they looked outside.

Firefox has plenty of extensions you can use to avoid paywalls for the big papers like the NYT, WaPo, Financial Times, etc.

Count Roland
Oct 6, 2013

Helsing posted:

Firefox has plenty of extensions you can use to avoid paywalls for the big papers like the NYT, WaPo, Financial Times, etc.

Can you link to any? I've looked but can only find one for scholarly journals.

Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN

Count Roland posted:

Can you link to any? I've looked but can only find one for scholarly journals.

https://github.com/iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-firefox

Count Roland
Oct 6, 2013


Huh, I didn't even know there were extensions outside of Firefox's own website search. But why wouldn't there be.

Thanks.

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

Count Roland posted:

Huh, I didn't even know there were extensions outside of Firefox's own website search. But why wouldn't there be.

Thanks.

Another option is Content Block Helper, which lets you pick and choose which scripts to load on a site. With a bit of detective work you can figure out the ones that control accounting and page access and disable them.

Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004

The new Idlib cease fire sure doesn't seem to have held up long since Russia and the regime were still bombing today and the regime appears to have captured some villages since then. One odd thing that may or may not affect diplomacy involving Russia for a while is that Putin's entire government, including familiar names like Lavrov and Shoigu, resigned. It seems to have been at his direction, so maybe everything is in place to move forward and will run smoothly from there, but some degree of disruption seems likely.

Gniwu
Dec 18, 2002

Sinteres posted:

The new Idlib cease fire sure doesn't seem to have held up long since Russia and the regime were still bombing today and the regime appears to have captured some villages since then. One odd thing that may or may not affect diplomacy involving Russia for a while is that Putin's entire government, including familiar names like Lavrov and Shoigu, resigned. It seems to have been at his direction, so maybe everything is in place to move forward and will run smoothly from there, but some degree of disruption seems likely.

No, the government reshuffle is just for show and won't affect anything. Putin did that for cosmetic reasons, because when he steps down from the presidency in 2024 (while keeping all the power, as in 2008), he needs some figurehead other than Medvedev (who has become extremely unpopular and will no longer be of much use as a heat-sink for discontent) to fill the position of presidential sockpuppet. Right now it's looking like the job will go to tax official Mikhail Mishustin, an unthreatening nobody.

And the 'Idlib ceasefires' never existed in the first place. They were agreed to purely for PR reasons, and broken by the regime at the next tactical opportunity where they would have attacked anyway.

Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004

Gimmick Account posted:

And the 'Idlib ceasefires' never existed in the first place. They were agreed to purely for PR reasons, and broken by the regime at the next tactical opportunity where they would have attacked anyway.

Sure, I have no illusions about the regime's good faith, but some of them have held (with violations limited to shelling and the occasional bombing) for months. This one didn't last a week.

twerking on the railroad
Jun 23, 2007

Get on my level

Gimmick Account posted:

. Right now it's looking like the job will go to tax official Mikhail Mishustin, an unthreatening nobody.

I dunno, looking at pictures I can't help but notice that he is in fact BALD, rather than hairy. I'm not sure the Russian public will tolerate such a break with tradition.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...a85d_story.html

lol donnie is so predictable

Lum_
Jun 5, 2006

Also available on Chrome.

https://github.com/iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-chrome

Squalid
Nov 4, 2008


I think imposing and threatening to impose tariffs is the one thing about the Presidency that is actually fun for Trump.

Well that and the rallies.

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

US troops were injured in Iran missile attack despite Pentagon initially saying there were no casualties

Called it.

Thump!
Nov 25, 2007

Look, fat, here's the fact, Kulak!




It’s not exactly like they were hiding it or anything. TBIs and stuff take a little while for symptoms to present. No one even got shrapnel from the attack.

3rdEyeDeuteranopia
Sep 12, 2007

Also, if you don't get anything documented when it happens, it becomes very hard to claim that you had PTSD or other issues from it later. If you don't retire after 20 years, then unless something is documented when you get out it is pretty much impossible to get it covered otherwise.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

3rdEyeDeuteranopia posted:

Also, if you don't get anything documented when it happens, it becomes very hard to claim that you had PTSD or other issues from it later. If you don't retire after 20 years, then unless something is documented when you get out it is pretty much impossible to get it covered otherwise.

and remember you're encouraged to NOT document it because hooah/

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010
https://twitter.com/gtconway3d/status/1217981703983116290

Cable Guy
Jul 18, 2005

I don't expect any trouble, but we'll be handing these out later...




Slippery Tilde
I'm starting to feel a little tinfoil about this.... Almost a dozen? Why the initial delay? Why are we hearing more about this now when the timing seems... uh... significant?

Like I said, it may just be :tinfoil: but I guess we'll see in the next few days.

Edit: dang, possibly wrong thread - thought I was in US-Pol but will leave it here.

Cable Guy fucked around with this message at 10:04 on Jan 17, 2020

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

Thump! posted:

It’s not exactly like they were hiding it or anything. TBIs and stuff take a little while for symptoms to present. No one even got shrapnel from the attack.

Also the general public tends to interpret "casualties" as an euphemism for deaths.

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020

Cable Guy posted:

I'm starting to feel a little tinfoil about this.... Almost a dozen? Why the initial delay? Why are we hearing more about this now when the timing seems... uh... significant?

Like I said, it may just be :tinfoil: but I guess we'll see in the next few days.

Edit: dang, possibly wrong thread - thought I was in US-Pol but will leave it here.

People in military didnt want Trump have a hush response so they held back the injury report. Also if the Iranian tell you ahead of time and you still stand too close to the targets its on you.

mystes
May 31, 2006

If Trump covered up casualties in the attack, this is clearly worse than Benghazi.

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

mystes posted:

If Trump covered up casualties in the attack, this is clearly worse than Benghazi.
BENGHAZI BENGHAZI BENGHAZI

BUT HER EMAILS

has become

AL-ASAD AL-ASAD AL-ASAD

BUT HIS PHONE CALL

:getin:

Mr.Unique-Name
Jul 5, 2002

3rdEyeDeuteranopia posted:

Also, if you don't get anything documented when it happens, it becomes very hard to claim that you had PTSD or other issues from it later. If you don't retire after 20 years, then unless something is documented when you get out it is pretty much impossible to get it covered otherwise.

As long as there's a record that you were involved in something like that, it typically will get reviewed and you'll talk about it in your discharge medical exam. If you have health issues that can be linked to it then they typically will be during disability considerations, unless they changed something in the last 15 years.

Hope that nothing that could potentially cause your issues happened and was recorded in your medical records prior to enlisting, though.

mitztronic
Jun 17, 2005

mixcloud.com/mitztronic

Cable Guy posted:

I'm starting to feel a little tinfoil about this.... Almost a dozen? Why the initial delay? Why are we hearing more about this now when the timing seems... uh... significant?

Like I said, it may just be :tinfoil: but I guess we'll see in the next few days.

Edit: dang, possibly wrong thread - thought I was in US-Pol but will leave it here.

I thought that TBIs commonly have a delay before they show. All of these soldiers have TBIs or concussions from the blasts.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Cable Guy posted:

I'm starting to feel a little tinfoil about this.... Almost a dozen? Why the initial delay? Why are we hearing more about this now when the timing seems... uh... significant?

Like I said, it may just be :tinfoil: but I guess we'll see in the next few days.

Edit: dang, possibly wrong thread - thought I was in US-Pol but will leave it here.

its because trump was gonna go to war if he heard anything about wounds. plus some bad brain injuries dont manifest right away.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
there's more concussions "covered up" (probably just not noticed) by high school sports leagues every season.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

mystes posted:

If Trump covered up casualties in the attack, this is clearly worse than Benghazi.

The intelligence community has destroyed presidencies before for lack of loyalty. The military knows it, the gop knows it, the umpires know it.

Trump hasnt shown the proper respect for the cia or FBIs miticulous work.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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A casualty is when a soldier is killed, surrenders/is captured, or when they sustain injuries that make them unfit for duty.

In this case they are technically "casualties" in that the missiles were really loud and had shockwaves that resulted in Americans being temporarily rendered unfit for duty because they were sent to Germany to get looked at and as a result weren't active for a time.

Getting sick in the line of duty to the point that it renders you unfit for duty also constitutes a "casualty" in military terms. This is a tempest in a teapot.

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Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>

Fojar38 posted:

A casualty is when a soldier is killed, surrenders/is captured, or when they sustain injuries that make them unfit for duty.

In this case they are technically "casualties" in that the missiles were really loud and had shockwaves that resulted in Americans being temporarily rendered unfit for duty because they were sent to Germany to get looked at and as a result weren't active for a time.

Getting sick in the line of duty to the point that it renders you unfit for duty also constitutes a "casualty" in military terms. This is a tempest in a teapot.

Trump was tweeting 'All is well' literally as ballistic missiles were raining down on US bases. It was an exceptionally weird response to having american bases hit with strategic missiles and I doubt anyone who saw that response real time didn't wonder wtf was going on.

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