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Jan 16, 2020 02:52
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^^^^gripweed!!! https://twitter.com/handleyzo/status/1217619189181112320?s=19
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Jan 16, 2020 02:53
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She might actually believe what she was saying but her handling of the whole thing without providing any context at all makes it very hard to give her the benefit of the doubt.
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Jan 16, 2020 02:53
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Steyer’s likability probably jumped a few points.
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Jan 16, 2020 02:53
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Meanwhile Mayor Pete continues to pander to his core demo: https://twitter.com/mattdpearce/status/1217625015417475072
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Jan 16, 2020 02:54
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CubanMissile posted:Steyer’s likability probably jumped a few points. i have been dying to see that clip with the curb music played over it when steyer walks up.
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Jan 16, 2020 02:55
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Warren won’t drop this and is gonna end up having some god awful press conference.
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Jan 16, 2020 02:56
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mcmagic posted:She might actually believe what she was saying but her handling of the whole thing without providing any context at all makes it very hard to give her the benefit of the doubt. That seems more like trying to passively aggressively prove yourself to be telling the truth. If you know CNN will hot mic you, create a scene where you declare your innocence, but make sure you phrase it in a half assed way where Bernie doesnt respond "you know what I actually said." "You called me a liar in public" is ambiguous enough to make the publicity the subject instead of what she said. And CNN works with it because the drama gets them money.
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Jan 16, 2020 02:58
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I guess at this point what does she have to lose? What do any of them have to lose? For the top four candidates in this race, this is all their absolute last chance to be president. Three of them are too old and this is literally Pete's only chance to get out of local politics. So gently caress it, why not burn bridges?
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Jan 16, 2020 02:58
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Honestly I think the best thing for Sanders to do is just ignore her from now on, ghost her completely. Let her campaign flail and lash out as they fade in the polls, it's only going to make her look worse
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Jan 16, 2020 02:59
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Was going to post “incoming claims that Bernie is gaslighting Warren” but it’s sadly already happening. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.la...e%3F_amp%3Dtrue
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Jan 16, 2020 03:00
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rscott posted:Honestly I think the best thing for Sanders to do is just ignore her from now on, ghost her completely. Let her campaign flail and lash out as they fade in the polls, it's only going to make her look worse Agreed. He can't sink to her level. I don't think he even called her a liar, did he? I'm pretty sure he was just "hell no I didn't say that"
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Jan 16, 2020 03:01
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They're going to see stuff like that crappy 538 poll saying "wow Warren's favorability is up!", decide that correlation DOES equal causation, get encouraged and double down on this line of attack. And even if Warren did somehow turn this into a primary win she's guaranteed to lose the general election because she's basically torched her credibility on this.
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Jan 16, 2020 03:01
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rscott posted:Honestly I think the best thing for Sanders to do is just ignore her from now on, ghost her completely. Let her campaign flail and lash out as they fade in the polls, it's only going to make her look worse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlOSdRMSG_k
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Jan 16, 2020 03:03
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Gripweed posted:I guess at this point what does she have to lose? What do any of them have to lose? For the top four candidates in this race, this is all their absolute last chance to be president. Three of them are too old and this is literally Pete's only chance to get out of local politics. So gently caress it, why not burn bridges? This isn't Pete's only chance. We'll be dealing with the little poo poo for years. I could see him trying to primary Bernie in 4 years if Bernie wins and runs again.
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Jan 16, 2020 03:06
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I liked Warren. Then the DNA test destroyed like 80% of that because it's was an astoundingly bad, dumb, thing to do. Now I have zero support for her and at this point I actively dread thinking about having to vote for her after her surely doomed general election campaign.
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Jan 16, 2020 03:07
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Mat Cauthon posted:She knew that mics were rolling and tried to set him up. Yep. Wouldn't be shocked if one of her campaign folks tipped off CNN to let them know she was going to "confront" him. This whole thing this stupidly obviously coordinated. Warren and her advisor "pals" want to get their narrative going and CNN wants to do to politics what Food Network did to cooking shows - lots of one dimensional fake personalities yelling and ganache-ing with drama bombshells conveniently appearing whenever viewer attention needs to be boosted.
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Jan 16, 2020 03:09
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Lame Devil posted:Was going to post “incoming claims that Bernie is gaslighting Warren” but it’s sadly already happening. quote:Watching the Tuesday night kabuki in slo-mo, you can see that Sanders (I-Vt.), who’s notoriously irritable and suffers from cardiac issues, was riled by whatever Warren said, and by her refusal to be touched. He shook a finger at her. Then again. He seemed intent on freeing her right hand to grab it. Holy poo poo.
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Jan 16, 2020 03:09
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Meatball posted:Agreed. He can't sink to her level. He just said "No, I didn't say that" then CNN asked Warren why he said it. Like with that spurious script Warren supporters were saying was a terrible attack on her, when it was actually very mild and measured criticism about how if she could grow her base.
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Jan 16, 2020 03:09
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CNN is going to scream non-stop about this, huh? I really hope this doesn't stick on the other networks.
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Jan 16, 2020 03:13
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Roluth posted:CNN is going to scream non-stop about this, huh? I really hope this doesn't stick on the other networks. I mean confrontation audio was a wet fart that people can decipher how they want and won't change anyone's minds and seems like most people have decided gently caress Warren so imagine it will die out since it's not being effective.
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Jan 16, 2020 03:15
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Roluth posted:CNN is going to scream non-stop about this, huh? I really hope this doesn't stick on the other networks. MSNBC had quite a few people actually criticizing them for such obscene obvious bias. I was pleasantly surprised.
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Jan 16, 2020 03:16
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quote:“It means to tell the truth no matter what the cost is,” Mr Steyer said. “For a while now, I have drawn it on my hand every day to remind myself to always tell the truth. I later discovered that it has traditionally been known as a Jerusalem cross.” 
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Jan 16, 2020 03:16
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Draynar posted:I mean confrontation audio was a wet fart that people can decipher how they want and won't change anyone's minds and seems like most people have decided gently caress Warren so imagine it will die out since it's not being effective. I hope you are right. Just...why now, and why Bernie? That's the big thing I'm stuck on. Does she think she can recapture the leftists she lost when she crashed a not so long ago? Is she trying to grab centrist credentials? Why go negative on such a dumb comment?
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Jan 16, 2020 03:19
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Ytlaya posted:Not surprising. She's the type of person to always interpret things in ways that are favorable to her own self-image and ambitions. She has probably convinced herself that she was telling the truth, because acknowledging otherwise would both imply bad things about herself and (in her understanding) hurt her political ambitions. She’s the Peggy Hill of this primary.
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Jan 16, 2020 03:20
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I did see a lot of pieces on other major networks criticizing Warren and especially CNN for this whole nonsense, as well as how Bernie was treated during the debate. I don't think this is going to have a huge impact, but I'm afraid its gonna be *just* enough to help Biden.
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Jan 16, 2020 03:22
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Roluth posted:I hope you are right. Just...why now, and why Bernie? That's the big thing I'm stuck on. Does she think she can recapture the leftists she lost when she crashed a not so long ago? Is she trying to grab centrist credentials? Why go negative on such a dumb comment? Because he's the only candidate she could realistically go after. The Media wouldn't play ball if she was going after Biden. The media already laid the ground work with the whole Bernie Bro bullshit in 2016.
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Jan 16, 2020 03:23
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Roluth posted:I hope you are right. Just...why now, and why Bernie? That's the big thing I'm stuck on. Does she think she can recapture the leftists she lost when she crashed a not so long ago? Is she trying to grab centrist credentials? Why go negative on such a dumb comment? I think she's also bad at attacking other candidates, or at least someone with bad instincts for it. It's why she's someone who goes in on more complicated policy first.
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Jan 16, 2020 03:27
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https://mobile.twitter.com/CarlBeijer/status/1217617717198495745
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Jan 16, 2020 03:27
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Roluth posted:I hope you are right. Just...why now, and why Bernie? That's the big thing I'm stuck on. Does she think she can recapture the leftists she lost when she crashed a not so long ago? Is she trying to grab centrist credentials? Why go negative on such a dumb comment? She wants a job in the Biden admin just like how she shrugged Bernie off in 2016 cause Hillary made a deal with her. She's poo poo and not to be trusted to deliver a "progressive" administration.
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Jan 16, 2020 03:27
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What a loving joke. If other media don't tear this sham to pieces..
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Jan 16, 2020 03:29
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SeANMcBAY posted:She wants a job in the Biden admin just like how she shrugged Bernie off in 2016 cause Hillary made a deal with her. She's poo poo and not to be trusted to deliver a "progressive" administration. And to get it she torched her carefully manicured persona and made that impossible with the stupidest scheme in the world.
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Jan 16, 2020 03:30
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I think Steyer might be my #2 candidate now lol
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Jan 16, 2020 03:30
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Yeah what the gently caress. I actually like Steyer more than Warren.
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Jan 16, 2020 03:31
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Don't trust a ho, don't trust me.
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Jan 16, 2020 03:32
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SeANMcBAY posted:She wants a job in the Biden admin just like how she shrugged Bernie off in 2016 cause Hillary made a deal with her. She's poo poo and not to be trusted to deliver a "progressive" administration. I still don't believe this is what she's going for, if for no other reason than her campaign really is dumb enough to think this would help her chance of winning. Remember, these are the people who thought the DNA test was a good idea.
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Jan 16, 2020 03:33
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Roluth posted:I hope you are right. Just...why now, and why Bernie? That's the big thing I'm stuck on. Does she think she can recapture the leftists she lost when she crashed a not so long ago? Is she trying to grab centrist credentials? Why go negative on such a dumb comment? She wants to win and Bernie is in her lane, ahead of her. It's now or never. That's all there is to it.
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Jan 16, 2020 03:34
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Tom Steyer is just a minor threat
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KIM JONG TRILL posted:I think Steyer might be my #2 candidate now lol Steyer is above Pete, Amy and Biden, not like that is a hard bar to clear. Maybe better than Yang too? He may be a billionaire and have some bad opinions, but at the minimum he's human and not senile.
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