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BDA
Dec 10, 2007

Extremely grim and evil.

Helianthus Annuus posted:

i was thinking about getting one a while ago, but i got spiced out by the fact that they require special strings. a ball on each end

Is that still true? I thought most headless guitars these days were designed to work with regular strings.

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Chip McFuck
Jul 24, 2007

We droppin' like a comet and this Vulcan tried to Spock it/These Martians tried to do it, but knew they couldn't cop it

Anime Reference posted:

"Full scale" is kind of a fake idea since guitars have never had a canonical scale, but since they're specifically aping a Tele here you could argue that to be full scale it'd have to be 25.5".

Sure, I get that. A guitar is a guitar. I like to think of myself as relatively plugged into the repair scene, so I was surprised to learn that people had been using "full scale" and "long scale" interchangeably. Forgive me, Dan Erlewine.

For Steinbergers: You dont need double ball strings anymore. Those strings just make it easier to change them and (some say) work better with the trem. The only thing I wish is that Steinberger would reissue the HH models instead of the HSS or HSH stuff.

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
In addition to getting my old guitar back in action (it's mostly ready to go except for the 12ish year old strings I've still got on it) ive had the itch to get a bass to plink around on. I can't justify spending a lot of money since Ive never played bass before so I rolled the dice and looked around at the pawn shop by my work and boy were those instruments not in good condition.

As for the whole "talking about/spending money on fancy gear instead of actually practicing/writing" thing I have much more experience with visual art than music and that concept is not unique to one type of art. I have seen plenty of artists at the peek of technical skill who have done all their art on an entry level Wacom tablet and a laptop and also plenty of people at like just barely novice level posting reviews of their new $3k Cintiqs.

Rifter17
Mar 12, 2004
123 Not It
On the trend of trying to not talk about gear: does anyone have resources for comping over modal jazz? I'm primarily a bass player so I understand my role on bass is to keep the root harmony alive. On guitar, the impression I'm getting from Jazz Theory and Practice by Hellmer is that anything goes in this loosey goosey world of modal jazz.

Tangentially related, any good resources regarding modal jazz theory?

rio
Mar 20, 2008

Anime Reference posted:

Excellent. I've been bitten by the jazz bug and while I'm planning to head to Guitar Center this weekend to try out some hollowbodies I've heard that Teles are a surprisingly popular alternative.

Excellent! Do you know Ed Bickert? He is really well know for being a jazz telecaster guy. Teles are great for everything but are surprisingly great for jazz too.

Dr. Faustus
Feb 18, 2001

Grimey Drawer

kidkissinger posted:

That's very cheap for an electric. Are these better than my garbage Epiphone Les Paul?
I bought the one pictured, and I love it. My father bought one, too; and he didn't like the tuners. Otherwise, he loves his.

I bought a trans-cherry one, he bought a black one. We are both very surprised by what you get for the money. I intend to have the pickups replaced (I don't know how to do hollow-body electronics) but there might be an obvious problem (mine has some small amount of crushed binding but is otherwise a great value) but this is my (perhaps late) endorsement. Grab one if you haven't already.

I haven't read the replies since so if I'm late to the party please forgive me.

Siivola
Dec 23, 2012

It seriously boggles the mind how cheap stuff can be if you can just find large enough a factory.

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

:stonk:

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR

Those Teuffel's are great for tweaking tonewood nerds. The bars are made of solid hardwoods so can be swapped out if you want a different wood to change the sound.

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Siivola posted:

It seriously boggles the mind how cheap stuff can be if you can just find large enough a factory.

and also don't pay the workers anything

BDA
Dec 10, 2007

Extremely grim and evil.

rio posted:

Excellent! Do you know Ed Bickert? He is really well know for being a jazz telecaster guy. Teles are great for everything but are surprisingly great for jazz too.

Nope, but I was watching some Tim Lerch videos and he gets a fantastic tone. I'll check out Ed Bickert too.

Clayton Bigsby
Apr 17, 2005

Anime Reference posted:

Nope, but I was watching some Tim Lerch videos and he gets a fantastic tone. I'll check out Ed Bickert too.

Don’t forget Julian Lage.

monolithburger
Sep 7, 2011

DreadCthulhu posted:

That's true. Same thing in photo actually. The shittiest $300 kit will deliver fantastic work in the right hands. The problem is actually getting out there and doing the work, going through the years of sucking. Ain't nobody got time to go to the gym and lift every day for the next 10 years. Instead we gotta discuss the best creatine brand on Internet forums.

As per Mick Gordon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmUvKe0wlgI&t=1253s

This is absolutely not related to the discussion, but the compression on this podcast gives me the screaming shits. Instant ear fatigue.

ASenileAnimal
Dec 21, 2017

a few days away from my first jam where im on guitar and really wishing i had practiced playing while standing up more :frogsiren:

punishedkissinger
Sep 20, 2017

ASenileAnimal posted:

a few days away from my first jam where im on guitar and really wishing i had practiced playing while standing up more :frogsiren:

i'm such a baby for playing in the exact same position every time. I kind of want to get one of those little foot lifters and keep it in my case at all times so i can always play with plenty of support from my right leg.

AnimalChin
Feb 1, 2006

Helianthus Annuus posted:

i was thinking about getting one a while ago, but i got spiced out by the fact that they require special strings. a ball on each end

on the one hand, that sounds awesome and a lot easier to change strings

but im not sure i like being locked into a specific kind of guitar string

You can get adapters that let you use regular old strings.

Lumpy
Apr 26, 2002

La! La! La! Laaaa!



College Slice

Rifter17 posted:

On the trend of trying to not talk about gear: does anyone have resources for comping over modal jazz? I'm primarily a bass player so I understand my role on bass is to keep the root harmony alive. On guitar, the impression I'm getting from Jazz Theory and Practice by Hellmer is that anything goes in this loosey goosey world of modal jazz.

Tangentially related, any good resources regarding modal jazz theory?

I love Jens Larson's channel for jazz stuff (note: I do not play jazz, but I love learning about it....) and he's done a ton of videos on comping you might find helpful: Jens comp videos

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

darkwasthenight posted:

Those Teuffel's are great for tweaking tonewood nerds. The bars are made of solid hardwoods so can be swapped out if you want a different wood to change the sound.

Gotta say this intrigues me

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

Brawnfire posted:

Gotta say this intrigues me
Look up the prices.
Those half-moon things under the strings? Bespoke swappable pickups with "custom magnets."
The maker's page notes that most of the parts are custom-made, including some of the screws, which may indicate a few loose ones.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

SelenicMartian posted:

Look up the prices

Intrigued no longer

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR

Brawnfire posted:

Gotta say this intrigues me

It's a great troll.

"I've designed a revolutionary metal-framed guitar!"
"But but but TONEWOOD!"
"If tonewood is so important then how do you like THESE apples, nerds?? That'll be five thousand dollars thanks."

Luna
May 31, 2001

A hand full of seeds and a mouthful of dirt


Have you guys seen the new Charvels? The Joe Duplantier model looks good. The specs are similar to the previous one and is a good guitar for the money.

https://www.zzounds.com/item--CHA2976181

Rifter17
Mar 12, 2004
123 Not It
The metal that runs from the neck to the bridge just is a slider for the pickups to connect. So all of the tension is shifted to the bars on top. Then you just swap and mix and match bars to your heart's content.

I saw someone with a Truffel guitar once (not the birdfish), and I said that I recognized it and that those guitars are expensive. He then asked me if I knew how much they are and I said "yes." I think he wanted me to say a number, but I don't know why.

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Luna posted:

Have you guys seen the new Charvels? The Joe Duplantier model looks good. The specs are similar to the previous one and is a good guitar for the money.

https://www.zzounds.com/item--CHA2976181


it looks like it should come with a 20% off coupon for a van mural


Rifter17 posted:

I saw someone with a Truffel guitar once (not the birdfish), and I said that I recognized it and that those guitars are expensive. He then asked me if I knew how much they are and I said "yes." I think he wanted me to say a number, but I don't know why.

he wanted validation for his dumb purchase

Siivola
Dec 23, 2012

I desperately want to like Charvel's new superteles but they're just not clicking for me. :sigh:

Props for them and Fender for trying weird old poo poo and seeing if it sticks, though.



The eighties called, they said we can have their old guitars.

Siivola fucked around with this message at 20:31 on Jan 16, 2020

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009



Thankyou sir may I have another. These have been out since last August and still noone's selling them down my way.

edit: I should add this was flagged on everythingsg.com months before official delivery (3-5 months from Aug 2019) so someone's been naughty and let the cat out of the bag before NAMM.

ewe2 fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Jan 16, 2020

osker
Dec 18, 2002

Wedge Regret
Has anyone messed with Harley Benton guitars from Thomann?

Luna
May 31, 2001

A hand full of seeds and a mouthful of dirt


The Muppets On PCP posted:

it looks like it should come with a 20% off coupon for a van mural


he wanted validation for his dumb purchase

Is it necessary to be a oval office?

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

darkwasthenight posted:

It's a great troll.

"I've designed a revolutionary metal-framed guitar!"
"But but but TONEWOOD!"
"If tonewood is so important then how do you like THESE apples, nerds?? That'll be five thousand dollars thanks."

going for the lucrative tonewood/audiophile niche I see

punishedkissinger
Sep 20, 2017

gimme the lowdown on those tonewood amp things

DreadCthulhu
Sep 17, 2008

What the fuck is up, Denny's?!
Favorite channels of people teaching guitar? I'm a fan of Ben Eller and Jake Lizzio, they seem on top of their stuff. One is more guitar chops and the other seems more theory / song-writing oriented:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agmKvakQT6g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-j4g0ktPGw

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

Luna posted:

Is it necessary to be a oval office?

Clearly U Need Tonewood

DreadCthulhu
Sep 17, 2008

What the fuck is up, Denny's?!
Back to being a filthy consumerist swine:

I'm most likely going to give a Strandberg Boden Fusion 6 a try see how I like it, and return it / flip it if I don't. It's got all of that stuff I'm looking for: carbon reinforced neck, ergonomics, multi-scale, stainless steel jumbo frets, chambered, headless, lots of pickup selection options, non-FR tremolo, super light... it's just hard to ignore given all of that. I'm concerned I might get one of those units that made it paste their sloppy QC, BUT I'm asking the Sweetwater people to go over it with a microscope otherwise I'm def returning it, and we have a half-decent relationship that I hope they don't want to poop on.

We'll see how it goes.

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Luna posted:

Is it necessary to be a oval office?

what? it looks like 1974 took a dump in the corner of the factory

if you told me it was a new merle haggard signature series i'd totally believe you


DreadCthulhu posted:

Favorite channels of people teaching guitar?

rick beato's alright though he seems to piss a lot of people off for some reason

The Muppets On PCP fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Jan 16, 2020

NonzeroCircle
Apr 12, 2010

El Camino
I've been bingeing this guy (Shred, formerly known as "Shredmaster Scott") recently, leans more towards theory and musicality than technique. His humour is probably a bit marmite but if you like Uncle Ben Eller you'll be fine.



https://www.youtube.com/user/smanthei7

When he starts playing stuff like Crazy Train or Reign in Blood in retrograde inversions...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3GV8n8QJRw

NonzeroCircle fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Jan 16, 2020

OutOfPrint
Apr 9, 2009

Fun Shoe

The Muppets On PCP posted:

rick beato's alright though he seems to piss a lot of people off for some reason

Rick Beato has great information, but his opinions and tastes in music are Boomer incarnate.

Siivola
Dec 23, 2012

OutOfPrint posted:

Rick Beato has great information, but his opinions and tastes in music are Boomer incarnate.
All his "old producer yells at cloud" videos are extra frustrating to watch because he's smart, he knows the job and even seems to listen to the music he complains about in good faith. He just never actually thinks his argument through – if Prince could be funky with a drum machine, quantizing your drummer to gently caress can't possibly make a drum break "not funky"!! :argh:

He's great when he's got Rhett and Dave in the studio for a freeform chat, though. Those videos are some of my favourite guitar content.

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
the one where he's screwing with stems from some lovely radio rock tracks because everything's perfectly on grid was pretty entertaining

AnimalChin
Feb 1, 2006

osker posted:

Has anyone messed with Harley Benton guitars from Thomann?

I've got this explorer and it seems really really nice - even before you factor in how cheap it was.

Beware of shipping though. Both me and my housemate ordered HB guitars at literally the same time. Mine showed up in a week, his took almost a month.

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ASenileAnimal
Dec 21, 2017

ewe2 posted:



Thankyou sir may I have another. These have been out since last August and still noone's selling them down my way.

edit: I should add this was flagged on everythingsg.com months before official delivery (3-5 months from Aug 2019) so someone's been naughty and let the cat out of the bag before NAMM.

drat thats the exact shade of green i want for all of my guitars and basses. ive wanted something with p90s too. most excited for this so far cause its an epi and i might be able to afford it

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