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Niric posted:There's a lot to parse in this article, both good and bad, but I thought this was an interesting take even though there's an awful lot to disagree with. It seems to come from a Brexit & Blue Labour sympathetic position, so there's certainly plenty of arguable and downright infuriating assumptions and statements, but the account of centrism and its electoral failings in particular I thought was well made, and it's worth reading the whole thing to get a slightly different analysis that's critical of both liberal centrism and Corbyn-style leftism. quote:While there will be nothing like a fully federal system, devolution will doubtless go further. Unending discussion of the break-up of the UK is a talking cure for depressed progressives, not realistic analysis. quote:If only people aged between 18 and 24 had voted in the general election, Corbyn would have won an enormous majority. No doubt this is partly because of Corbyn’s promise to abolish student tuition fees and the difficulties young people face in the housing and jobs markets. But their support for Corbyn is also a by-product of beliefs and values they have absorbed at school and university. According to the progressive ideology that has been instilled in them, the West is uniquely malignant, the ultimate source of injustice and oppression throughout the world, and Western power and values essentially illegitimate. quote:Humanities and social sciences teaching has been largely shaped by progressive thinking for generations, though other perspectives were previously tolerated. The metamorphosis of universities into centres of censorship and indoctrination is a more recent development, and with the expansion of higher education it has become politically significant. By over-enlarging the university system, Blair created the constituency that enabled the Corbynites to displace New Labour. No longer mainly a cult of intellectuals, as in Orwell’s time, progressivism has become the unthinking faith of millions of graduates.  quote:The resistance to progressivism in social matters is focused chiefly on law and order and immigration. There is no detectable enthusiasm for the restoration of traditional family structures or sexual mores. Working-class voters want security and respect, not a wholly different form of life. quote:For the two wings of British progressivism – liberal centrism and Corbynite leftism – the election has been a profound shock. It is almost as if there was something in the contemporary scene they have failed to comprehend. They regard themselves as the embodiment of advancing modernity. Yet the pattern they imagined in history shows no signs of emerging. Any tendency to gradual improvement has given way to kaleidoscopic flux. Rather than tending towards some rational harmony, values are plural and contending. quote:Liberal or Corbynite, the core of the progressivist cult is the belief that the values that have guided human civilisation to date, especially in the West, need to be junked. e: 1981 brought us riots in Brixton, Toxteth, Handsworth, Chapeltown, and Moss Side. Progressivism was probably to blame. Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 15:17 on Jan 16, 2020 |
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Apraxin posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1217000076264050688 Events have overtaken. Big Ben won't be Bonging for Brexit. https://uk.news.yahoo.com/brexit-day-big-ben-elizabeth-tower-chimes-fundraiser-120708446.html
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Results of the Momentum poll are in, 70% for backing RLB & a whopping 52% for Rayner (will of the people &c)
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There's an airport in China I went to once where they built the entire terminal in just one big straight line. It didn't really make the gates easy to get to but it was somehow impressive
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BizarroAzrael posted:People keep talking up Singapore Changi airport, but I'm not clear on why besides a water feature, but I guess I'll see in March. It literally has TWO butterfly farms that you can visit on airside, also, there is an outdoor smoking terrace if you want a puff (just being able to get outside can be nice though). Oh and the 'water feature' happens to be a koi carp pond, pretty impressive for an airport really! TRIXNET fucked around with this message at 16:16 on Jan 16, 2020 |
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Guavanaut posted:1st-10th they came for the SEO experts. This is a good joke. Also at my last UK job (not actually my last job now - I lost my new job in Canada - well, technically I resigned, because they were wankers) my boss asked me "How do you find a good SEO person?". Obviously the response is to just google "SEO".
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:There's an airport in China I went to once where they built the entire terminal in just one big straight line. It didn't really make the gates easy to get to but it was somehow impressive Dubai airport is like this too, I once had a ~12 hour layover there on the way back from Australia and it took me half an hour to walk from one end to the other
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:We're letting Luton off far too easily in the terrible airport stakes. Somehow exists in the quantum state of always being far too crowded, while also being a loving trek from any point A to B. Eh. Luton's pretty inoffensive. Easier to get to from lots of places than either London or Birmingham airports. Calling it "London Luton" is a piss take, though.
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Little regional airports are the best airports. Southampton is pretty great; it takes less than five minutes to walk from one end of the place to the other and the gates are all in one big room. And it has a train station right there. Easter Island airport has one gate, no obnoxious luxury shops, and an overall extremely relaxed attitude. Kansai International in Osaka is pretty big and a bit of a weird layout but it's built on an artificial island and the long rail bridge out to it, especially on the misty overcast day I was there, has extremely strong Myst vibes. I have a lot of thoughts about airports.
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Borrovan posted:Results of the Momentum poll are in, 70% for backing RLB & a whopping 52% for Rayner (will of the people &c) Interested to know how the also-rans scored, if you have those numbers.
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KOGAHAZAN!! posted:Interested to know how the also-rans scored, if you have those numbers. Contentiously, they just asked "should we back RLB/Rayner y/n"
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BizarroAzrael posted:Contentiously, they just asked "should we back RLB/Rayner y/n" Was it even a question that Momentum would back the Continuity Corbyn Candidate?
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Apraxin posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1217000076264050688 I know the press never really challenged the Tories, but we are some how entering an even worse stage.
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All this talk of airports is making me think of some of the stuff my parents told me about flying in the pre-9/11 world and it sounds just so incredibly chilled compared to now. My first flight was sometime just after they beefed up all the theatre of security. Very much want to get the plane up to Barra at some point as it's one of the only places in the world a commercial airport uses a beach as a runway. The departure lounge is literally a couple of tables in what looks like a church hall and the only scheduled service is to and from Glasgow lol JeremoudCorbynejad posted:My favourite airport is Katmandu airport because it's just so relaxing to know that pilots have to have special training to land there, and it's exciting seeing all those mountains zip by as your plane carefully snuggles into the runway It's between that and St Helena, where they decided to build the thing on a rocky outcrop which in the mid-atlantic had predictable results - pretty hair raising! ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Jan 16, 2020 |
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:My favourite airport is Katmandu airport because it's just so relaxing to know that pilots have to have special training to land there, and it's exciting seeing all those mountains zip by as your plane carefully snuggles into the runway
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WhatEvil posted:Eh. Luton's pretty inoffensive. Easier to get to from lots of places than either London or Birmingham airports. Not compared to "London Southend" and "London Oxford" it isn't. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbAal7jIWQ4
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Apraxin posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1217000076264050688 The sycophancy is deeply disturbing, as is the open acceptance that loving 500 grand is something the coutnry couldn't just. Pay. Like, 500 grand is the kind of money I personally could probably have accessed at one point, had I remained in full time work. It's such a pittance they should be laughing him out of the room when he say we need to loving crowdfund it.
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Payndz posted:I haven't flown into it, but Queenstown airport in NZ must also be pretty exciting because on one of the roads in, you can look aross the mountain valley and see airliners flying past below you. Gibraltar is quite fun, it has a level crossing because the runway goes across the only road on/off the rock.
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ThomasPaine posted:can someone who knows about trains tell me why the district line no longer goes to southend Yes. It never did. Hope this helps. e: Less sarcastically, while the District and Metropolitan Railway did once share some tracks with the London, Tilbury and Southend Railway to get their services out into Essex (from Bromley-by-Bow to Upminster) they built their own tracks alongside almost immediately and there's no interchange between the two, and running four-rail electrification all the way out there would be a stupendous waste of time and money particularly when there's cross-platform interchange at four stations along the way and the completely different running conditions between metro and commuter rail services. goddamnedtwisto fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Jan 16, 2020 |
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Yes. It never did. Hope this helps. it did at one point apparently, but only seasonally
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sinky posted:On that subject, what's going to happen with Gibraltar in our glorious Brexit future? IIRC the withdrawal agreement was pretty vague last time I checked, the usual platitudes about making sure there won't be a hard border, but without any mechanism as to how. But it will undoubtedly become a huge issue when the fash need something else to distract the gammons with.
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ThomasPaine posted:can someone who knows about trains tell me why the district line no longer goes to southend
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ThomasPaine posted:it did at one point apparently, but only seasonally Right, but see my expansion of the answer - they could only do that in the days when the District Line was steam-powered, as soon as it was electrified there was no way of running a direct service.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Right, but see my expansion of the answer - they could only do that in the days when the District Line was steam-powered, as soon as it was electrified there was no way of running a direct service. Ah I missed that, thanks. I saw an article on it a few months back and all the transit chat reminded me.
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sinky posted:On that subject, what's going to happen with Gibraltar in our glorious Brexit future? Saw it off and drag it into the Irish Sea to be a mid-point for the Boris Bridge
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Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj International in Mumbai is the nicest airport I've ever been in. They have signs at the entrance saying something like 'this is a quiet airport, no announcements, please respect other people's tranquility'. The layout is wide and scattered with sofas and things to sit on, the lighting is soft and it has at least one garden populated with local vegetation inside. Everyone going in visibly relaxes, and the materials used are great at reducing noise. It's a huge difference from the hair-raising trip to get there from the center of Mumbai which probably also helps.
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thespaceinvader posted:The sycophancy is deeply disturbing, as is the open acceptance that loving 500 grand is something the coutnry couldn't just. Pay.
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ThomasPaine posted:Ah I missed that, thanks. I saw an article on it a few months back and all the transit chat reminded me. I mean I suppose, technically, they could do something like the North London Line split electrification - the LTS uses overhead electrification so they could lay a third and fourth rail to allow the DC-powered District Line stock to run through, but there's not really any point given the massive differences in use (and hence everything from timetabling to the acceleration and top speeds of the trains) between a metro system and a commuter heavy-rail system. At one point there was a plan to do the opposite - to allow the LTS to use the District/Met Line tracks to get to new platforms at Liverpool Street and/or Moorgate, because Fenchurch Street is kind of in a poo poo position in terms of actual onward travel, but the whole problem was solved much more cheaply with the DLR Bank extension.
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Borrovan posted:Didn't Boris Johnson himself literally call a half-million quid salary for a part time job a "pittance", or "pocket money" or something? Or was it Gideon
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Borrovan posted:Didn't Boris Johnson himself literally call a half-million quid salary for a part time job a "pittance", or "pocket money" or something? Or was it Gideon Whether he did or not, he did, in much the same way as David Cameron hosed a dead pig's head.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Right, but see my expansion of the answer - they could only do that in the days when the District Line was steam-powered, as soon as it was electrified there was no way of running a direct service.
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Payndz posted:"Chicken feed", although it was "only" a quarter-mil.
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