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Pander posted:When Zelensky hemmed and hawed and didn't do it, Pence's trip was canceled, claiming an illness. This left Zelensky sick Pence none the richer. 
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Taerkar posted:Dan Bongino is pretty deep in crazytown, isn't he? Bongoman used to be in the secret service presidential detail under Obama, and pretends that means he has insider knowledge of the machinations of the deep state. I bet if someone started a rumor he had to swear a blood oath to Obama as part of his duties, he’d be off the grift train.
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Impeachment Thread: * locks eyes with Nunes* "...Parnas." I also retract this suggested new title. Chalupa is BACK BABY: https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1217861633361489925 refleks fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Jan 16, 2020 |
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eke out posted:oh yeah, also, the State Department is hiding from the many journalists asking them "holy poo poo do you have any comment about threats on a US ambassador from trump associates" Theres a good chance it's going to come out that Pompeo was in on it too. He's going to hide as long as he can. Edit: wait, didn't parnas already say Pompeo was in on it?
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Meatball posted:Theres a good chance it's going to come out that Pompeo was in on it too. Pompeo is absolutely in the middle of with Trump and Pence. It's just that the evidence needed to convince republicans, of any of these issues, is insurmountable.
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Jan 16, 2020 16:14
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Hoooo boy these crimes are just flying past us at warp speed now can we just send the whole admin to the loving Hague and start over please an thank you?
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I will note re: this that "violating the law" isn't a federal criminal law or anything, so it's not like super exciting what this does mostly is help in the push to force Mulvaney's testimony, since he's the one directly responsible for this and GAO now says it was not legal
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Jan 16, 2020 16:19
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lmao if you think republicans give a single gently caress about that report
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oxsnard posted:lmao if you think republicans give a single gently caress about that report if this is all you've got, I encourage you to simply not post at all, since everyone already agrees that Republicans are bad. snide nothing-matters replies do not contribute anything of value to the thread, in addition to creating a toxic environment for people who might actually care about what's going on or have questions.
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eke out posted:I will note re: this that "violating the law" isn't a federal criminal law or anything, so it's not like super exciting At the very least, it can be read into the Senate trial as OMB broke the law at Trumps request.
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no offense, but pointing out which things will actually matter regarding impeachment is sort of the whole point of a thread like this, no? It's not like I do that with everything that gets posted here
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oxsnard posted:no offense, but pointing out which things will actually matter regarding impeachment is sort of the whole point of a thread like this, no? It's not like I do that with everything that gets posted here Instead of shitposting about how it's hilarious if anyone thinks this might matter, you could actually try to explain why you think that. This is the difference between a bad post that actively discourages others from participating, and a reasonable one that, even though it's a fundamentally pessimistic take on the news, is moving the thread forward. eke out fucked around with this message at 16:34 on Jan 16, 2020 |
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https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/1217834659444396033 Likelihood of this being an insane circus increasing by the day, inshallah
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I think we will get a senate trial with witnesses now. The mounting evidence and reports like the one from the GOA are important as a silver bullet to a GOP held senate. Either they have witnesses to protect their seats or they get walloped in the next election.
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What does 'witnesses on both sides' even mean? I'm guessing just nonsense to make it seem like actually there are two sides to this story of the president abusing his power.
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pacerhimself posted:What does 'witnesses on both sides' even mean? I'm guessing just nonsense to make it seem like actually there are two sides to this story of the president abusing his power. It means they will let trump have his circuses. Call Biden and hunter as witnesses and such.
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ideal scenario is that new dirt comes out about Biden in addition to damning information about Trump, Trump gets acquitted and then gets destroyed in November
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oxsnard posted:no offense, but pointing out which things will actually matter regarding impeachment is sort of the whole point of a thread like this, no? It's not like I do that with everything that gets posted here Are you gonna keep us a running update on this? Every time there is new events or information are you gonna rush to this thread to keep us updated on your boring opinion that nothing matters? Like do you think you have a large fanbase waiting for your specific pronouncement that each thing individually does not matter? Why not just generally declare that 10 months ago then just update us when your opinion changes?
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I'm just saying that the phrasing is nonsense designed to discredit a witness who is testifying that they were witness to the president breaking the law
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I think the point's been made, let's move on.
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Hell yeah, we've hit the point where the allegations are so juicy that they're going to get air time just for being entertainingly outrageous.
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The white house is saying they expect the trial to take two weeks. While anything they say is typically garbage, assuming at least some witnesses are called is there any reasonable prediction on how long it might actually take or is it just a complete unpredictable crapshoot at this point?
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Zachack posted:The white house is saying they expect the trial to take two weeks. While anything they say is typically garbage, assuming at least some witnesses are called is there any reasonable prediction on how long it might actually take or is it just a complete unpredictable crapshoot at this point? the one thing we know for sure is that we have no idea what's going to happen right now it's safe to assume whatever coming out of the white house is extreme wishcasting, though. the clinton trial took about five weeks with only one, closed-door witness (lewinsky)
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https://twitter.com/ShimonPro/status/1217847786944782337 Better late than never, I guess. That they weren't called when they were actually threatening her is another avenue that needs some explaining.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:It means they will let trump have his circuses. Call Biden and hunter as witnesses and such. I literally see no downside to letting them call Biden and his stupid failson.
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mcmagic posted:I literally see no downside to letting them call Biden and his stupid failson. If he agrees to Bolton, Parnas, Rudy, etc he can have the Bidens.
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mcmagic posted:I literally see no downside to letting them call Biden and his stupid failson. Hunter is actually quite experienced in international financial regulations by all reports, and his presence on the Burisma board was to help them become a global player in the energy industry. He will make a good showing for himself if he's put on the stand.
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Deteriorata posted:Hunter is actually quite experienced in international financial regulations by all reports, and his presence on the Burisma board was to help them become a global player in the energy industry. LOL if you really believe this.
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Deteriorata posted:Hunter is actually quite experienced in international financial regulations by all reports, and his presence on the Burisma board was to help them become a global player in the energy industry. They're not going to ask him anything relevant to his experience in international financial regulations. Rather we're going to get dozens of questions about his mistress, drug use, and illegitimate child.
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There's two issues: One is that its seeding ground to R that something nefarious was going on with Hunter and let them grandstand and badger him. He's a failson just like the others, so chances are he is not someone who can handle that level of politiking. Second is that Diamond Joe Biden is so incredibly old and has a smush brain like Trump that he will unwittingly gently caress up testifying and admit to killing Hoffa or some poo poo.
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refleks posted:There's two issues: One is that its seeding ground to R that something nefarious was going on with Hunter. Second is that Diamond Joe Biden is so incredibly old and has a smush brain like Trump that he will unwittingly gently caress up testifying. 1) Everyone already thinks Hunter Biden is dirty. Because he is dirty and got a 50k a month job because of who his daddy is. 2) Good, Hopefully he torpedoes his campaign.
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mcmagic posted:1) Everyone already thinks Hunter Biden is dirty. Because he is dirty and got a 50k a month job because of who his daddy is. I have no love for Hunter or Biden, like I said, the former is a failson riding his dad's coattail, and the latter is a dumbass centrist. Torpedoing his campaign and loving up whatever slim chance there is of a conviction is not a good trade for the democrats, the USA, and gently caress the entire world.
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refleks posted:There's two issues: One is that its seeding ground to R that something nefarious was going on with Hunter. Second is that Diamond Joe Biden is so incredibly old and has a smush brain like Trump that he will unwittingly gently caress up testifying. Sure in a fair and just world it wouldn't go down this way but welp, we live in the post escalator Hellfucker 2016 Earth timeline. If the end result is that Trump straps on a political suicide vest, charges straight at Biden, and detonates the establishment Democratic apparatus choice clearing the way for a progressive candidate to actually start fixing poo poo I'm gonna call that a messy win and go with it.
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It's Trump's trial. If you think Hunter committed a crime, open a separate investigation for him. But first try to reconcile your desire for that with the fact that that is exactly, exactly what Trump wants to happen and what he is literally on trial for for trying to make happen right now.
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refleks posted:I have no love for Hunter or Biden, like I said, the former is a failson riding his dad's coattail, and the latter is a dumbass centrist. There is zero chance at a conviction. There is a better change of gravity not working tomorrow morning when I try to get out of bed and my floating into space.
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mcmagic posted:1) Everyone already thinks Hunter Biden is dirty. Because he is dirty and got a 50k a month job because of who his daddy is. We can always count mcmagic to regurgitate and defend the Republican party line. 
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The Democrats should just openly say "Sure, you call the Bidens and Chalupa and we'll call Bolton, Parnas, and Sondland". I mean, there is literally nothing on the Bidens. Just call the loving bluff. Let the Republicans gently caress themselves. When they still don't call witnesses they get to plaster it all over the news. Although I am starting to believe that the DNC doesn't want to call Biden so he can tramp all over Iowa while Bernie is stuck in DC, but I also wear a tinfoil hat. If Trump claims executive privilege on Bolton during the trial, can they have Roberts rule on it or will it still require the full SC?
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Deteriorata posted:We can always count mcmagic to regurgitate and defend the Republican party line. You really want the Democratic party to be the party that defends failsons getting 50k a month nepotism pots?
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