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How is QAnon reacting to the news that yet another Hillary probe came up with nothing? I guess it will be the next investigation that results in her being led away in chains to her televised execution.
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Tesseraction posted:*week's Also pretty much the only ingredient that has any measurable effect is caffeine.
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cmndstab posted:How is QAnon reacting to the news that yet another Hillary probe came up with nothing? Without even looking: "Trust the plan"
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cmndstab posted:How is QAnon reacting to the news that yet another Hillary probe came up with nothing? FYI, Hillary Clinton has been executed in Goatanamo a long time ago. The clones are not the real Hillary
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cmndstab posted:How is QAnon reacting to the news that yet another Hillary probe came up with nothing?
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Jan 10, 2020 17:41
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InsertPotPun posted:At this point all these investigations are to discover which hillary is going to be secretly deported and/or executed. Why not just spin the WHEEL! OF! HILLARYS!
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Jan 10, 2020 17:45
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My cousin who is deep in Q posted "11:11  " along with a screenshot of the Hillary story and a picture of Trump's tweet from today saying the DOW gained 11,000 points in three years. So she has probably been executed in Q land.
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They keep executing her but it doesn't take. Hopefully by next time they figure out what supernatural being she is, but I doubt it. They're still debating if she's a demon or an undead.
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Jan 10, 2020 23:54
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dms666 posted:My cousin who is deep in Q posted "11:11 I know the answer is "trust the plan" and whatever funny number catches them next will be the REAL number, not like that last fake out number I totally didn't fall for.
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Ichabod Sexbeast posted:Why not just spin the OOPS! All Epsteins!
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InsertPotPun posted:ask her what happens when nothing happens that day. I'm honestly curious. Then it was either disinfo put out to trick the deep state or it really did happen and they're pretending it didn't to throw others off balance. Which is what Obama has been doing for the last year or so, after his stint at Gitmo. The subject is forced to play along under some kind of duress.
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One purpose of the council was to resolve disagreements arising from within the church of Miami over the nature of Trump's travels with the Tesla machine: in particular, whether his essence had travelled only through time, and therefore him being a time traveller, or if he had also travelled to other dimensions, therefore him being an interdimensional time traveller.
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InsertPotPun posted:ask her what happens when nothing happens that day. I'm honestly curious. My mom is deeply involved this, logic and questions like these do not faze them. Even though time and time again Q has failed predict anything. She cannot comprehend it not happening and will not answer these "What if this doesn't happen". PS I'm told by her 2020 is THE year that "something" will happen. Oh and also 10% of the population follow Q.... The world population. My mom has 130 IQ. Yet I lose IQ points every time she speaks to me.
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For humor value I'm tempted to remote into her computer and block access to all of the websites she views. But I'm her IT guy 
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InsertPotPun posted:At this point all these investigations are to discover which hillary is going to be secretly deported and/or executed. It's all a big game of Secret Hitlary. Now to write a Secret Hitler reskin where researchers have to follow breadcrumbs to find the Secret Hillary and her Deep State allies and get those scam bux flowing in.
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Kharohz posted:For humor value I'm tempted to remote into her computer and block access to all of the websites she views. But I'm her IT guy Hosts file fuckery might be even better. Redirect all that dumb poo poo to a mental health hotline or something. When asked, "Trust the plan, do what it says"
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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:Glenn Beck had an ad this morning that I'll paraphrase: I thought one of the cornerstones of a facist belief system was that the Enemy is simultaneously all powerful (they run everything and cause all the bad things in the world through an intricate system of lies, covert ops and deception) and totally inept (their plots are constantly foiled, us Common People could totally outsmart them and beat them in combat, they have bad personal hygiene, they're subhuman, etc.)
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jan/11/trum-and-farage-supporter-flies-flag-for-qanon-rar-right-conspiracyThe grauniad posted:A key supporter of Nigel Farage and Donald Trump has provoked ridicule after using his landmark Cornish castle to fly the flag of a prominent conspiracy theory identified by the FBI as inspiring rightwing violence.
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Eulogistics posted:I thought one of the cornerstones of a facist belief system was that the Enemy is simultaneously all powerful (they run everything and cause all the bad things in the world through an intricate system of lies, covert ops and deception) and totally inept (their plots are constantly foiled, us Common People could totally outsmart them and beat them in combat, they have bad personal hygiene, they're subhuman, etc.) 
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Lobster God posted:https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jan/11/trum-and-farage-supporter-flies-flag-for-qanon-rar-right-conspiracy oh gently caress I love John Mappin
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Funion posted:I recently found out that my mother and step-dad are Q believers through my sister (who just moved out). I left them back when they were hardcore Tea Party members, but I had no idea they had fallen this low. My 15 year old brother still lives with them and I've re-initiated contact with the secret reason of slowly rationalizing their beliefs to save him from this poo poo. UPDATE: Alright, so originally, I had heard through my sister that my mom had persuaded her and her husband to sit through a QAnon video. This made me alarmed, but I still didn't know whether my mom and stepdad actually believed in QAnon or had just stumbled on a conservative video they agreed with that happened to have Q elements. I attended a birthday party with all of them and they seemed reasonable and nice, but my sister and I agreed that it was probably because they didn't want to scare me away again after I had distanced myself from them for around 7 or 8 years. I also had lunch alone with my mother one day, where we caught up and she mentioned she wasn't a republican anymore. I was cautiously optimistic, but she said it was because she doesn't like how "the government encourages putting labels on everyone to create tensions" and that she's still heavily conservative. I was disappointed, but for some reason her reasoning wasn't ringing any alarm bells for me. Then, last week, I went to a suicide awareness rally with my mom and my wife (my stepsister hung herself in 2018), and I was impressed by the empathy she was showing and how good it was that she was being vocal for a great cause. I had almost forgotten about the QAnon suspicions I originally had and my fears for my brother seemed to be unfounded. I think she even bad-mouthed Trump at one point. My mom texted me late last week and said she had an extra ticket to go to a car show with her, my stepdad, and my brother. I accepted of course, and we all carpooled to the car show together. I was having a lot of fun and enjoying myself for about the first 4 hours. The QAnon poo poo was very far in the back of my mind, I had almost forgotten about it. But then I noticed my mom had been wearing a hat the entire time. I looked up.  what. the. gently caress. I casually asked her what the "Q" meant on her hat, as if I had never heard of it before. She starts explaining to me like it's the most normal thing in the world about QAnon and how there's a secret cabal of satan-worshipping pedophiles that controls the government. We go over and rejoin my stepdad and brother, where she has my stepdad explain more about it and how it's really opened their minds. I'm an EMT so I'm good at keeping an outward calm and empathizing with people, but at this point my despair and panic about how wrong this poo poo is was threatening to spill over so I don't press them for more details, and we continue to different parts of the car show. A bit later I catch my brother alone and ask him if we can have a conversation that will stay between us. He agrees, and I ask him if he believes in QAnon. At this point he gets very quiet, reserved, and seems uncomfortable. He says "Yeah, pretty much, but I haven't done too much research about it. I agree with a lot of the ideas though." poo poo. I start telling him how it's a conspiracy theory, how the FBI labeled it a domestic terrorism threat, and try to express to him how scary it is that our parents have caught him up in this. I tell him to definitely do his own research and read about what he's being exposed to. He agrees but I can't tell if he is entirely convinced or not. My brother and I bond a lot more during the car show and eventually we leave. On the way back my parents mention QAnon again and start expressing their disappointment with how dirty and corrupt our government is. Something I thought was funny was that they said that they didn't agree with Trump on everything but "At least he's not one of THEM and we got him elected. He's not corrupt and he's doing a lot of great things for this country! He's removing a lot of corrupt politicians and replacing them with people who aren't in it for the money or the corporations." I kept my mouth shut tight during this of course. SO, things are even worse than I thought. I'm still planning on trying to rationalize their beliefs, because at this point I have to try, both for my brother and for the chance of me letting them within 100 miles of my future kids. I think there might be a small glimmer of hope here because I asked if they had ever heard of 4chan (where QAnon was birthed apparently) and they had no idea, so maybe with superior knowledge I can inform them of what they are actually a part of. Are there any resources you guys have that I can read about QAnon? I need to know more. I need to know all about the origin, beliefs, and inconsistencies of the QAnon movement to have any real chance of changing their minds. My parents might be insane, but it's the kind of insane they can rationalize very well with the information they're given. I want to attack on all fronts: with facts, rational arguments, and emotional arguments. I'm planning to have some more one-on-one lunches with my mom and stepdad where I can slowly and tactfully make my case. I'm not sure how invested my brother is in this garbage but I'm going to spend more time with him too, and expose him to some better ideas outside the bubble he's been trapped in.
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Lol how the gently caress is this poo poo still going on? It's been like 3 years and nothing has loving happened It's like the Rapture people ran out of excuses, this is their next best thing
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The Chairman posted:oh gently caress I love John Mappin Why is this guy painting the same three tits in his paintings?
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Kharohz posted:PS I'm told by her 2020 is THE year that "something" will happen. Oh and also 10% of the population follow Q.... The world population. I've seen this claim, but when pressed it turned out to be "10% of the US population has heard of Q, according to a pundit on Fox News".
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TulliusCicero posted:Lol how the gently caress is this poo poo still going on? TRUST THE PLAN
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Funion posted:I'm planning to have some more one-on-one lunches with my mom and stepdad where I can slowly and tactfully make my case. I'm not sure how invested my brother is in this garbage but I'm going to spend more time with him too, and expose him to some better ideas outside the bubble he's been trapped in. You're going to need a cult deprogrammer.
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Mercury_Storm posted:You're going to need a cult deprogrammer. Yeah, logic and facts aren't going to work, even if they genuinely agree at the time with what you tell them they'll either forget it, work it into the conspiracy, or 'debunk' it online later. Just the idea of someone honestly thinking Trump isn't in it for the money or corrupt at all is such an alien concept to me. Q makes Scientology look reasonable.
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Corsair Pool Boy posted:Yeah, logic and facts aren't going to work, even if they genuinely agree at the time with what you tell them they'll either forget it, work it into the conspiracy, or 'debunk' it online later. Well I'll try first and probably give up if there's no hope. It does look kinda bleak though, just combed through their facebooks and it seems like they frequently browse the following things: qanon.pub, breitbart, fox news, and some conservative social media thing called Codias. They might be unsavable.
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Funion posted:Well I'll try first and probably give up if there's no hope. It does look kinda bleak though, just combed through their facebooks and it seems like they frequently browse the following things: qanon.pub, breitbart, fox news, and some conservative social media thing called Codias. They might be unsavable. Well that's a new one to me. https://www.codias.com Guess they've come a long way since the halcon days of Reaganbook.
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Ah yes, Facebook, Twitter and *checks notes* LinkedIn, famously liberal social media sites.
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Unless you can unplug them from the source of stupid poo poo it will never work. Facts and logic are not important in this kind of cult situation, it's all emotions and they're getting that emotional support from those sources. As soon as you're gone they'll turn on their drip feed and re-convince themselves how true it all is. A therapist is a better choice for this than a fact checker.
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bird with big dick posted:Ask them how much dinar they have Ahaha I'd forgotten about that. And looking at it the Iraqi dinar is still worth absolutely gently caress-all, slowly on the decline.
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jojoinnit posted:So what's the deal with Dinar? There are a bunch of people holding onto stockpiles of Iraqi dinar because they believe that Trump is going to somehow bring the dinar's value up from its current exchange rate of 1 dinar = $0.001 USD to its pre-Gulf War exchange rate of about 1 dinar = $3 USD, and they spend all their time poring through every word Trump says for secret signals that the revaluation is coming very soon and his supporters' wealth will increase a thousandfold, begging him on Twitter to speed up the revaluation, or spending their spare money on buying even more dinar (at a huge markup through gray-market forex that's hyping up the revaluation as inevitable). The Chairman fucked around with this message at 16:02 on Jan 17, 2020 |
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jojoinnit posted:So what's the deal with Dinar? Over the last 20 years there's been this theory among chuds and cranks that the US was going to turn Iraq into an economic super power on par with Saudi Arabia and the currency would rapidly deflate. Therefore if you bought a bunch of Iraqi Dinars then and now, your investment would explode. Trump came into it because it got spread by a new wave of grifters that Trump invested in Dinars and then got the government of Iraq or some other institution to exchange at a higher rate. There's also that chud mindset that Trump is going to make Iraq into a stable, economically powerful country so they're still holding onto it for that reason. It's just boomer chud crypto speculation before crypto speculation reached them. EDIT: Beaten.
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Funion posted:UPDATE: Good to hear that you're trying at least. I posted in the thread before, but I had to just essentially cut out my family when they fell for this nonsense. It's not the only scam they've fallen for before. Including buying Iraqi Dinar because of course they did. My ultimate family opt-out point was when my mother said some really terrible things to my wife, who is a person of color. Kinda had one of those moments where I realized I can't have a child with my wife who would then most likely have their first racist experience be from grandma.
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Very tempted to buy  worth of dinar. I mean, I'd only waste it on a sandwich anyway.
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angerbeet posted:Very tempted to buy Is this a pun about diners?
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Vonnegut Asterisk posted:Good to hear that you're trying at least. I posted in the thread before, but I had to just essentially cut out my family when they fell for this nonsense. It's not the only scam they've fallen for before. Including buying Iraqi Dinar because of course they did. That's really sad to hear and I'm empathizing hard with you, I can't believe people fall for this crap. My parents aren't even that dumb, in the traditional sense at least. They're successful, wealthy, and active in the community. They even helped push some suicide awareness legislation in our state. I'm just not sure at what point they fell down the rabbit hole. I think even if they don't listen to logic and reason I might be able to persuade them emotionally, especially if I can get my 2 sisters who moved away from them to help. I'm probably super optimistic but if I could actually change their minds it wouldn't be a stretch to extrapolate and maybe even draw them away from their extreme conservative views, but if I get that far I'd probably buy a lottery ticket and change careers to politics. Something new though, my mom just shared a picture of her with the founder of Turning Point USA, Charlie Kirk.
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