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Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010


GodFish posted:

I mostly listen to History Podcasts but informational ones are good too, and I've enjoyed listening to literary podcasts if it's something I'm familiar with. Some of the ones I've got are
History of Rome, Byzantium, of Philosophy without any gaps (+india/africa), of the Crusades, Revolutions, Imaginary Worlds, Twenty Thousand Hertz, The Dollop, The Allusionist, Making Gay History (strongly recommend this one), 99% Invisible, Our Fake History, Pirate History Podcast (I don't see a lot of talk about this one, it's pretty good), Tides of History, History of China, Inward Empire, History of English, Hardcore HIstory, Viking Age Podcast, Myths and Legends, Factually, The Movements, Nancy, Gender Reveal, Worst Year Ever

I've got the History of Persia on my list to hit and the British History Podcast.

I'll have to check out Century of Sound

That's a good list and I'd also recommend Age of Napoleon and Ottoman History Podcast.

Lions Led By Donkeys is my new jam though, its basically The Dollop for military history with socialist army guys

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rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

Fun Shoe

stealie72 posted:

It Could Happen Here is the scariest apocalypse fiction, and seems entirely plausible.

It could happen here is an amazing podcast because every time I’ve talked about it, someone has done the exact same argument of “there’s no way that a civil war could ever happen in America, that podcast is stupid”

Then I say “listen to it, he addresses all the points you are making in the very first episode”

And then they keep arguing until I stop responding.

Echo Chamber
Oct 16, 2008

best username/post combo
https://twitter.com/mikeduncan/status/1218894471175311367?s=20
Short version: Taking a long break after 1905 to finish the book. Then he'll take his time to finish Russia, which will be the end of the show. Hasn't yet decided what his next big project will be.

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

WARNING! INTRUDERS DETECTED

I have never listened to Haiti anyway (I took a hiatus from the podcast at that time for reasons not related to the choice of topic) and by the point he's done with Russia and I'll have listened to Haiti, I might as well listen to France again, and so on, and so on.

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"
Yeah I think about relistening to France every time I see Paris in the news.

VanSandman
Feb 16, 2011
SWAP.AVI EXCHANGER

a pipe smoking dog posted:

Yeah I think about relistening to France every time I see Paris in the news.

There's some real cool parallels between France (all three, to be honest) and Russia.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006

rotinaj posted:

It could happen here is an amazing podcast because every time I’ve talked about it, someone has done the exact same argument of “there’s no way that a civil war could ever happen in America, that podcast is stupid”

Then I say “listen to it, he addresses all the points you are making in the very first episode”

And then they keep arguing until I stop responding.

Oh, USA is definitely closer to a Ukraine/Yugoslavia scenario than it's ever been outside of, y'know, the first Civil War.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


"Civil war could never happen in America" is quite the spicy take given uh... previous events.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
We're talking about people who haven't learned anything from 2016.

Spoeank
Jul 16, 2003

That's a nice set of 11 dynasty points there, it would be a shame if 3 rings were to happen with it
It Could Happen Here is the only podcast I ever quit on due to it stressing me the hell out, and I listen to Knowledge Fight constantly.

Firstscion
Apr 11, 2008

Born Lucky

Spoeank posted:

It Could Happen Here is the only podcast I ever quit on due to it stressing me the hell out, and I listen to Knowledge Fight constantly.

Dan's dulcet tone relaxes us all.

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

I think what's most interesting about the history of France's revolutions is that if you do the numbers, for a long while, every generation would've had a chance at taking part in the overthrow of a government, and I think France still hasn't outdone the interval between the Paris Commune and the fall of France in WW2.

So I wonder how much every mass protest in France has an undercurrent of possibly being the one that restarts the trend.

Grand Fromage posted:

"Civil war could never happen in America" is quite the spicy take given uh... previous events.

I get the idea of being dismissive, since part of what prevents a civil war is just the sheer power of the norms that keep people thinking that a civil war is unthinkable. Of course, that doesn't actually help with dealing with the people who are already working themselves up towards breaking that norm, and it's better to be proactive anyways.

I don't really want to wade into the particulars of how messy and horrible and awful a potential civil war would be though. I have a hard enough time dealing with the potential for some kind of coup in the capital, which right now seems like it would probably be opposed by the bulk of the US military.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

VanSandman posted:

There's some real cool parallels between France (all three, to be honest) and Russia.

The Bolsheviks very consciously patterned themselves on the path of the French Revolution, following Marx in that regard. One of (not only) reason for the Great Terror was Stalin trying to prove Trotsky wrong that the USSR had entered its Thermidorean period, by showing it was still in the Jacobin phase. The very term Great Terror was a callback to the Reign of Terror.

Speaking of Marx and the French Revolution, he was also very confused why the Civil War in the US didn't help usher in a radical revolution in the northern states a la the Revolutionary Wars in France.

fatherboxx
Mar 25, 2013

Megazver posted:

Oh, USA is definitely closer to a Ukraine/Yugoslavia scenario than it's ever been outside of, y'know, the first Civil War.

Are Americans so bored these days they imagine themselves to be almost Libya somehow

Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004

Echo Chamber posted:

https://twitter.com/mikeduncan/status/1218894471175311367?s=20
Short version: Taking a long break after 1905 to finish the book. Then he'll take his time to finish Russia, which will be the end of the show. Hasn't yet decided what his next big project will be.

I haven't listened to Russia yet, so maybe all of this background is incredible and worth it (I'll find out eventually--I'm on Haiti now), but when I saw that he's nowhere near 1917 after this many episodes I was pretty disappointed. It makes sense that he'll end after Russia given that it's basically gone in scope from a season of the Revolutions podcast to a History of the Russian Revolution(s) podcast, but I wish he'd pared it down so he could have done Cuba and/or Iran. That said, ending on the enormous one does make some sense, so it's not the end of the world or anything.

Dr Kool-AIDS fucked around with this message at 02:43 on Jan 21, 2020

Red Dad Redemption
Sep 29, 2007

Thanks to all for the Fall of Civilisation recommendations; really an amazingly good podcast.

Somewhat surprised, positively, by the British History Podacst as well, though I’m holding out hope David Crowther will recover and get back to the normal schedule, since I’m far from done with The History of England

fuf
Sep 12, 2004

haha
I finally got to the most recent episode of Tides of History so now I'm listening to The Fall of Rome, his earlier podcast. It's really strange listening to him stumble over his words in an echoey room after the (over?) produced style of Tides of History.

I think it really hits its stride in episode 5, about the collapse of Roman Britain. He does this thing where he imagines how various characters (a garrison commander in the North, a local aristocrat in the South East) would slowly adapt to the absence of Imperial control and end up looking more like local warlords and petty kings. It's really clever.

After reading through this thread I've got a list of podcasts to try (thanks), but I'm always up for more recommendations that match my weird requirements:
* Ad free because I listen to them while I fall asleep (don't mind paying)
* Not too modern because I don't wanna be bummed out when I'm trying to sleep. I had to stop Revolutions at the Haiti episodes because it was too depressing. I know it's stupid but as long as all the death and misery happens before like, 1800, then I can handle it.
* Not too narrative. I think Tides of History is impressive because of the emphasis on themes and shifts, and his ability to abstract vertically into big picture stuff. I'm less impressed when someone just progresses horizontally through a narrative, and I don't wanna feel like I'm lost because I can't remember the name of some dude from three episodes ago.

golden bubble
Jun 3, 2011

yospos

Well, I was going to recommend the History of Japan, but many of the series in that podcast are both about the post-1800s history and very depressing.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


There are lots that aren't though. It's still a good podcast if you skip the episodes about babies being polluted to death or whatever.

a fatguy baldspot
Aug 29, 2018

how is the History of the Crusades?

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
Anyone listen to The Road to Now? Have a coworker trying to push it on me.

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf
https://twitter.com/HardcoreHistory/status/1222626332116283392

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf
Its been posted

https://twitter.com/HardcoreHistory/status/1222759753874427905

Its 3 and half loving hours, looks like focusing on Alexander the Great's mom

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

OH gently caress I LOVE OLYMPIAS,THIS OWNS

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat

The Glumslinger posted:

Its been posted

https://twitter.com/HardcoreHistory/status/1222759753874427905

Its 3 and half loving hours, looks like focusing on Alexander the Great's mom

Are snake girls the horse girls of the ancient world? :v:

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
I thought they were the church girls.

MeatwadIsGod
Sep 30, 2004

Foretold by Gyromancy

Rody One Half posted:

OH gently caress I LOVE OLYMPIAS,THIS OWNS

oh dope
Nov 2, 2006

No guilt, it feeds in plain sight
Can anyone recommend a podcast, or single episodes, that covers historical mysteries? Astonishing Legends scratched an itch i didn't know i had with their shows on things like Flight 19, and the Nazi Bell, and things that are just so old/obscure/bizarre that no one really knows anything about it, like Gobekli Tepe or Oak Island. I've pretty much exhausted their library of that stuff and I'm looking for more. I'm not at all interested in ghost stories or UFO sightings though, and they love that stuff on their show.

oh dope fucked around with this message at 20:47 on Feb 4, 2020

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute

The Glumslinger posted:

Its been posted

https://twitter.com/HardcoreHistory/status/1222759753874427905

Its 3 and half loving hours, looks like focusing on Alexander the Great's mom

Just an FYI to those who haven't listened yet, this episode isn't really all that focused on Olympias even though Dan claims it will be at the start of it. It's more of a brief rundown of Alexander the Great's rise to power, and the immediate aftermath and consequences as a result of his death. Olympias jumps in and out of the story and by Dan's own admission that's because he's working from sparse historical record where Olympias will just up and vanish for huge chunks of the story, but still bear it in mind.

100YrsofAttitude
Apr 29, 2013




Anything on Organized Labor? Just anything, not necessarily mysteries and scandals. I'll take simple exposition for now.

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

100YrsofAttitude posted:

Anything on Organized Labor? Just anything, not necessarily mysteries and scandals. I'll take simple exposition for now.

Inward empire, specifically the soldiers of capital and great railway strike episodes.

Pron on VHS
Nov 14, 2005

Blood Clots
Sweat Dries
Bones Heal
Suck it Up and Keep Wrestling

100YrsofAttitude posted:

Anything on Organized Labor? Just anything, not necessarily mysteries and scandals. I'll take simple exposition for now.

IMO Inward Empire is the best historical podcast out there, and he focuses a lot on American labor history

head58
Apr 1, 2013

oh dope posted:

Can anyone recommend a podcast, or single episodes, that covers historical mysteries? Astonishing Legends scratched an itch i didn't know i had with their shows on things like Flight 19, and the Nazi Bell, and things that are just so old/obscure/bizarre that no one really knows anything about it, like Gobekli Tepe or Oak Island. I've pretty much exhausted their library of that stuff and I'm looking for more. I'm not at all interested in ghost stories or UFO sightings though, and they love that stuff on their show.

Generation Why has a handful of historical mystery episodes scattered here and there (Titanic Conspiracy, Bermuda Triangle, Dyatlov Pass), mostly before episode 150 or so, but they’re primarily murder themed.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

oh dope posted:

Can anyone recommend a podcast, or single episodes, that covers historical mysteries? Astonishing Legends scratched an itch i didn't know i had with their shows on things like Flight 19, and the Nazi Bell, and things that are just so old/obscure/bizarre that no one really knows anything about it, like Gobekli Tepe or Oak Island. I've pretty much exhausted their library of that stuff and I'm looking for more. I'm not at all interested in ghost stories or UFO sightings though, and they love that stuff on their show.

New England Legends might be of interest. The caveat is there are a lot of UFOs and ghosts in it, but they also cover a wide range of genuine historical folklore from the New England states. Each episode is only 10-15 minutes long too, so not too much of an investment.

COPE 27
Sep 11, 2006

100YrsofAttitude posted:

Anything on Organized Labor? Just anything, not necessarily mysteries and scandals. I'll take simple exposition for now.


Belabored, focused largely on current events, analysis and interviews.

https://www.dissentmagazine.org/category/podcast

100YrsofAttitude
Apr 29, 2013




evilpicard posted:

Belabored, focused largely on current events, analysis and interviews.

https://www.dissentmagazine.org/category/podcast

Thanks

Inward empire is amazing and highly recommendable

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
Inward Empire starts out with two long episodes*, but it's totally worth it. I feel like it's laying the groundwork for the fundamental bases of conflict in future chapters. (Maybe 3 hours isn't very long by the standards of the history podcast thread, I dont know.)

It reminds me of the English Civil War part of Revolutions, which isn't as engrossing with regard to military strategy and tactics, but hammers home the problem with property rights as the basis of all rights, which repeats in every revolution with a liberal constituency.

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

I keep bouncing in and out of Behind the Bastards due to despair overload but I really enjoyed today's episode on Basil Zaharoff and eagerly await the next one.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

AceOfFlames posted:

I keep bouncing in and out of Behind the Bastards due to despair overload but I really enjoyed today's episode on Basil Zaharoff and eagerly await the next one.

I haven't listened to this episode yet but if you haven't watched it, you should watch the 1980s British TV miniseries Reilly, Ace of Spies. Zaharoff (played by Leo McKern from The Prisoner) is one of the main characters. It was also directed by Martin Campbell and it very much feels like his audition for eventually doing Bond movies (Sam Neill is the titular character, and he was up for Bond around this same time as well).

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webmeister
Jan 31, 2007

The answer is, mate, because I want to do you slowly. There has to be a bit of sport in this for all of us. In the psychological battle stakes, we are stripped down and ready to go. I want to see those ashen-faced performances; I want more of them. I want to be encouraged. I want to see you squirm.
New episode up on Fall of Civilisations, three hours on Han dynasty China :getin:

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