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TACD posted:So Boris' Oven-Ready Deal™ has gone into the bin? Not surprising I suppose. No this is it, it was just that our terrible media never pushed the point that leaving the EU was a moment in time but the reorganizing of our international relationships has to happen afterwards and will take time. Basically February is going to be full of announcements of post Brexit policies which are 100% internal and could have been done in the EU and then the next 10 months is a slow pressure building as negotiations still happen and little progress is made and we see what social forces are pressuring the Tories the most to see where they buckle. So they'll probably sell out everything to protect the City but that depends exactly how disaster capitalist they actually are and might just want to fire sale the entire country and then escape in the aircraft carrier. namesake fucked around with this message at 12:26 on Jan 20, 2020 |
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KOGAHAZAN!! posted:Anyone ever wonder what the country would look like if the Restoration had never happened? What of workers' democracies that gained power? Would they manage better gains or have been destroyed with more force? What would have happened with America with no king in Britain to rally against, but with a bunch of wealthy Royalists fleeing to Virginia and the Carolinas? What would have been the equivalent of the Victorian Era? a pipe smoking dog posted:Yeah can someone please clarify. Is this the man who was racist on question time? Because I'd never seen it heard of him before this week, and I'm an active consumer of bad detective shows.
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TACD posted:So Boris' Oven-Ready Deal™ has gone into the bin? Not surprising I suppose. He never had a deal, the transition agreement was what he signed up to, it's literally what May had with northern ireland lopped off.
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Puntification posted:Who is this guy? Actor. Plays D.Sgt Hathaway, the sidekick in Lewis. Related in some way to actor Emilia Fox.
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OwlFancier posted:He never had a deal, the transition agreement was what he signed up to, it's literally what May had with northern ireland lopped off. Wouldn't it be a beautiful irony if, after the 'ra failed to assassinate Thatcher, Boris hosed off the unionists so hard he got blown up by whatever's left of the UVF
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Problem with hard right lunatics assassinating sitting MPs is that it just shifts everything a bit further to the right.
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Guavanaut posted:Problem with hard right lunatics assassinating sitting MPs is that it just shifts everything a bit further to the right. let me have this dream, guva
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Guavanaut posted:Problem with hard right lunatics assassinating sitting MPs is that it just shifts everything a bit further to the right. So does hard right lunatics not assassinating sitting MPs because they moved to the right of their own free will.
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TACD posted:So Boris' Oven-Ready Deal™ has gone into the bin? Not surprising I suppose. Also Javid has already publicly thrown the manufacturing sector under the bus by saying the UK will not align to EU regulations, and they had three years to prepare so what are they complaining about. Completely ignoring, of course, that the Conservative government spent much of those three years doing either a) gently caress all or b) assuring the manufacturing sector that they would continue to be able to trade with the EU
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Jedit posted:So does hard right lunatics not assassinating sitting MPs because they moved to the right of their own free will. I guess National Action and their subgroups Atonal Inaction and Definitely Not National Action got banned from having stickers over it.
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Apologies for the express, but this is a typical example of how brexit has been turned into a sport, with non of the complexities of what it actually means being important, just ‘winning’. quote:Listeners of the interview took to Twitter to mock the Remaniac podcast host and his complaints. Constant ‘remoaners’, ‘remaniacs’ and us-v-them. They don’t give a poo poo about what it means, they care that they won.
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Red Oktober posted:Apologies for the express, but this is a typical example of how brexit has been turned into a sport, with non of the complexities of what it actually means being important, just ‘winning’. this has literally been the case since the day after the referendum lol
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I had the chance to date this girl and now she's really hot fml
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51149531quote:Brexit: Big Ben fundraiser given £50,000 Nice PR for Arron Banks to give a bung to his side's new grift fund and have it trumpeted by the BBC. Parts that stand out to me: quote:Big Ben is being renovated, but the PM this week suggested a fund be set up to make it chime at 23:00 on 31 January. The MPs' group running parliament? Is that not the government? Oh! It refers to: quote:The House of Commons Commission estimates that getting the bell to ring during renovation works on the Palace of Westminster's Elizabeth Tower, which houses Big Ben, would cost between £350,000 and £500,000. Setting up a conflict between plucky Boris and the doubting remoaners who run (administer) Parliament and want to stop anything Brexit related out of petulance. quote:Conservative MP Mark Francois told BBC Radio 4's The World at One that the pro-Brexit Leave Means Leave campaign and Mr Banks had donated £50,000. Oh hey, the rhetoric gets stronger. That treacherous House of Commons Commission and their 'practical concerns'. quote:Mr Francois also said he believed the prime minister should table a motion in the Commons on Monday to compel the Commons authorities to bong Big Ben. Oh hey, looks like we're getting more power for the executive on the back of this entirely fabricated controversy. quote:Responding to a question in Parliament from Mr Francois, Sir Paul Beresford - a member of the commission - said the cost of ringing the bell on New Year's Eve and Remembrance Sunday in 2019 had totalled £14,200. Oh hey, the HoCC's estimates are in fact reasonable given the nature of the proposal. Shame this is at the bottom of the article, below everyone calling them snivelling remoaner liars. One last bit out of order: quote:[Mark Francois] said Boris Johnson was the one who had "fired the starting gun" on the campaign by suggesting public donations during his BBC Breakfast interview on Tuesday. Yes, the Prime Minister started a grift fund for his mates and for his own political benefit, as if he doesn't control the country's finances. The leader of the governing party is an outsider bravely battling those who would thwart Brexit. Remember, if Big Ben bongs, plucky Boris made it happen! And if it doesn't, remoaner traitors did it! This is a prime example of the collusion between the governing party and media organisations. The national discourse is what they want it to be. We're seeing what they do with that power. Braggart fucked around with this message at 14:00 on Jan 20, 2020 |
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It's almost as if the whole thing is just a diversion away from the actual meat of the deal.... Boris' barebones Brexit bargain begets bogus Big Ben bong barny.
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"Don't tell me it takes two weeks to attach a clapper," says bell end expert.
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Red Oktober posted:Apologies for the express, but this is a typical example of how brexit has been turned into a sport, with non of the complexities of what it actually means being important, just ‘winning’. I watched a YouTube vid from the Telegraph the other day, 12 reasons why Big Ben should ring for Brexit, hosted by a JRM lookalike. I thought it was parody it was so bad, but there were no comments so I couldn't be sure. So much moaning about "remoaners" though. Had my ad blocker on at least, don't wanna give them any revenue...
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Red Oktober posted:Apologies for the express, but this is a typical example of how brexit has been turned into a sport, with non of the complexities of what it actually means being important, just ‘winning’. 'Remainiacs' is the actual name of their podcast. Believe me if you listen to it, you'd want to rub Brexit in their faces as well. The latest episode included such gems as - implying the green new deal is European. Describing the EU as the "greatest peace project in the history of the world". Ranting that RBL must be defeated and that she is untrustworthy and a hardcore brexiter, while implying Lisa Nandy is the real europhiles choice. Edit: My favorite Alex Andreou moment was where two weeks before the election (despite his constant demands for a second referendum) he said: "I don't care who wins, because either we will get a decent government, or get a decent opposition." which betrays the stark contradiction at the heart of the liberal mindset. That the left actually offers everything they say they want, yet simultaneously through their actions fight tooth and nail to prevent. He has since joined the Labour Party to vote for Jess Philips. Desiderata fucked around with this message at 14:17 on Jan 20, 2020 |
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Does anybody know how the labour leadership hustings work? Are there audience questions or is it just pre approved questions? Considering if it's worth going but only if I can yell at them not to tack right to appease the media.
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https://twitter.com/ChinnyHonk/status/1219173636617228288 The subject was barely discussed for three decades except ALL THE loving TIME CHRIST
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Guavanaut posted:Would there still have been a bourgeois revolution in the late 17th century and a bunch of Liberal philosophy following it? Would Hobbes' Behemoth be more famous than Leviathan? Would there have been a union in 1707? If you want to get this serious with it we should probably start by figuring out how the Restoration is avoided and what sort of political culture emerges once things shake out. Miftan posted:Does anybody know how the labour leadership hustings work? Are there audience questions or is it just pre approved questions? Considering if it's worth going but only if I can yell at them not to tack right to appease the media. Every hustings I've ever been to took questions from the floor. One of those was a Scottish leader hustings, but I've not been to a national leader one yet.
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I'm pretty sure the whole point of a hustings is that it's a public open floor? Might get off my arse and go to one.
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At the hustings for selecting our GE candidate organised by Welsh Useless Labour there were NO questions from the floor allowed.
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KOGAHAZAN!! posted:If you want to get this serious with it we should probably start by figuring out how the Restoration is avoided and what sort of political culture emerges once things shake out.
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WhatEvil posted:Eh. Luton's pretty inoffensive. Easier to get to from lots of places than either London or Birmingham airports. Why? It's only 30m on the train to St Pancras which is pretty in line with getting to any of the other airports.
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HappyCamperGL posted:Actor. Plays D.Sgt Hathaway, the sidekick in Lewis. Related in some way to actor Emilia Fox. So he's the sidekick's sidekick? Why is he suddenly all over the place? What did he do to get this platform?
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Lord of the Llamas posted:Why? It's only 30m on the train to St Pancras which is pretty in line with getting to any of the other airports. Hey Llamas, so did you end drinking alone with Tim on Saturday? lol if so.
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Guavanaut posted:Charles II's boat sinks on its way back from the Netherlands leading to a period of national mourning during which James attempts to take the throne and dies of Popery. But that would rob us of the best parenthetical statement in English Literature Samuel Pepys, 25th May 1660 posted:I went, and Mr. Mansell, and one of the King’s footmen, with a dog that the King loved, (which poo poo in the boat, which made us laugh, and me think that a King and all that belong to him are but just as others are), in a boat by ourselves
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HappyCamperGL posted:Actor. Plays D.Sgt Hathaway, the sidekick in Lewis. Related in some way to actor Emilia Fox. Thanks!
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Miftan posted:Does anybody know how the labour leadership hustings work? Are there audience questions or is it just pre approved questions? Considering if it's worth going but only if I can yell at them not to tack right to appease the media. I mean you can yell at them either way, you just might get escorted out by security if you do it without being invited.
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thespaceinvader posted:I mean you can yell at them either way, you just might get escorted out by security if you do it without being invited. That was always part of the plan.
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Rarity posted:I had the chance to date this girl and now she's really hot fml ugly ducklings strike again meanwhile I was pretty good looking back then and now I'm a terrible goon
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It is a lovely day in the village and we are all horrible goons.
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a pipe smoking dog posted:So he's the sidekick's sidekick? Why is he suddenly all over the place? What did he do to get this platform? Best I can tell, it started on QT, and now he's some gammon anti-woke champion saying that black and working class actors should know their place and not complain about being black and working class if they get famous. Or some poo poo. And other stuff that amounts to "What if Jordon Peterson, but a bit part actor from a spin off of a detective tv show".
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Pesky Splinter posted:"What if Jordon Peterson, but a bit part actor from a spin off of a detective tv show".
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loving --- Unrelated, Jessflaps already setting up excuses if she fails to become labour leader: "Hustings are a bad way to decide who would make a good Labour leader posted:I said at the beginning of this process that I would tell the truth. I said that I was the bold choice and only bold could beat Boris Johnson, and I meant it. And then I did something I didn’t think I would do, and I stopped being bold. I didn’t lie, but I certainly stopped being real. I really believe that authentic, big-hearted, funny, kind and different politics is the only way to beat Johnson. So I am going to practise it. TBF she isn't wrong about the format of the hustings necessarily , but holy hell that's a lot of laying groundwork for excuses about why it's likely she's going to have her arse handed to her. Did a frequency count on the text; you'll all be shocked to know the 2nd highest word frequency at 48 out of 964 was the pronoun, "I".
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Tesseraction posted:ugly ducklings strike again Nah she was always very pretty, I just did not have my poo poo together at all at that time
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I mean, hustings aren't how we decide who is Labour leader. The election is. I'd bet that a significant proportion iof the membership never actually see a hustings.
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Desiderata posted:'Remainiacs' is the actual name of their podcast. Believe me if you listen to it, you'd want to rub Brexit in their faces as well. i mean, Timmermans is EU commissioner in charge of the Green New Deal and the EU is/was an explicit peace project. I have a lot of problems with the current undemocratic and bourgeois EU institutions but I have to admit that this level of peaceful cooperation between, for instance, Germany and France or the UK would've been impossible without the ESCS and the EEC. As flawed as the EU is, European integration has not been without its advantages.
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thespaceinvader posted:I mean, hustings aren't how we decide who is Labour leader. The election is. I'd bet that a significant proportion iof the membership never actually see a hustings. I meant in the sense of 40 secs to answer a question - but it's clear why that's there - too easy to waffle on otherwise. And yeah, the actual election is the important thing, it's just amusing to see her flub it - even though she's clearly doing this to boost her profile rather than having any actual expectations of winning.
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