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Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

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Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

Frog Act posted:

yeah this is something that's been apparent abstractly for many years but watching so many of my political enemies marching around, armed, in familiar places is a visceral reminder that the actual left can't muster that kind of enthusiasm or presence to save their lives, especially in the south

watching the american SA march around looking like a bunch of fat inbred dipshits really does make me wish there was at least an american reichsbanner to countermarch

All sorts of left wing issues bring out humongous crowds. They just don't march around armed because 1: they're not marching about their sacred ability as white people to have guns and 2: whenever left wing groups have weapons and gather they get shot

but I know in the moment you can go "man, where's the enthusiasm for our stuff?" Cause it feels like every crazy rear end in a top hat in the world came out for this one state bill, so at least they're energized. But like: every crazy rear end in a top hat came out for this one state bill. This is the biggest thing in the world for these people.

Grondoth has issued a correction as of 20:24 on Jan 20, 2020

Brain Curry
Feb 15, 2007

People think that I'm lazy
People think that I'm this fool because
I give a fuck about the government
I didn't graduate from high school



I would love to see the physical fitness standards of these well-regulated militias

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

Brain Curry posted:

I would love to see the physical fitness standards of these well-regulated militias
well-fed > well-regulated

Seven Hundred Bee
Nov 1, 2006

The pictures make the rally look deceptively big - it’s a super cramped area and there only in a few blocks. It’s not 100,000 people.

Also counter protest groups specifically told people to stay away and the laws are going to pass (they have bipartisan support among VA residents including 80% of Republicans)

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

Grondoth posted:

All sorts of left wing issues bring out humongous crowds. They just don't march around armed because 1: they're not marching about their sacred ability as white people to have guns and 2: whenever left wing groups have weapons and gather they get shot

but I know in the moment you can go "man, where's the enthusiasm for our stuff?" Cause it feels like every crazy rear end in a top hat in the world came out for this one state bill, so at least they're energized. But like: every crazy rear end in a top hat came out for this one state bill. This is the biggest thing in the world for these people.

yeah, good points. i'm not sure if large and armed leftist rallies would result in many arrests at the rally, but it'd sure result in highly increased federal surveillance and infiltration, which would then lead to more arrests/getting suicided. since i posted my statement about them showing up i've remembered that there have been many right-wing small rallies that failed or were just embarrassing.

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011
It's possible it might make people distance themselves from this, too. I mean, headlines that say "thousands of armed protesters" are scary headlines, and the bill itself is not big at all. A bunch of guys with guns and masks marching around to protest background checks and limiting the right for people to parade around in open spaces openly armed looks... odd if you're not deep in the gun-weirdo headspace.

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

Grondoth posted:

All sorts of left wing issues bring out humongous crowds. They just don't march around armed because 1: they're not marching about their sacred ability as white people to have guns and 2: whenever left wing groups have weapons and gather they get shot

but I know in the moment you can go "man, where's the enthusiasm for our stuff?" Cause it feels like every crazy rear end in a top hat in the world came out for this one state bill, so at least they're energized. But like: every crazy rear end in a top hat came out for this one state bill. This is the biggest thing in the world for these people.
This past weekend was the annual Women's March and it drew several hundred thousand people out to protest against Donald Trmpu and conservative republican policies in general. Weirdly, it only got a tiny fraction of the media coverage that a couple thousand huffing and puffing gun nuts got. Huh.

There's a lot of activism and support for non-crazy politics, it just never gets reported on, for reasons that should be fairly well understood by anyone reading this thread.

Seven Hundred Bee
Nov 1, 2006

a big reason why the republicans got massacred in 2018 was refusing to even talk about gun control, including measures that a vast majority of VA residents supported, so this is not a good look for them.

also insane activists pushing “gun sanctuary” policies through small town councils is also a gross and bad look.

and for context there have been rallies in Richmond that have drawn as many participants who actually live in the city and not traveled thousands of miles

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Seven Hundred Bee posted:

The pictures make the rally look deceptively big - it’s a super cramped area and there only in a few blocks. It’s not 100,000 people.

Also counter protest groups specifically told people to stay away and the laws are going to pass (they have bipartisan support among VA residents including 80% of Republicans)

Neat trick for that tyrant Northam to pull off

Bobby Digital
Sep 4, 2009
Lol


https://twitter.com/iwriteok/status/1219346014756200448?s=21

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Seven Hundred Bee posted:

a big reason why the republicans got massacred in 2018 was refusing to even talk about gun control, including measures that a vast majority of VA residents supported, so this is not a good look for them.

also insane activists pushing “gun sanctuary” policies through small town councils is also a gross and bad look.

and for context there have been rallies in Richmond that have drawn as many participants who actually live in the city and not traveled thousands of miles

yeah. gun stuff only really plays well in super rural areas and the deep south and midwest.

Steadiman
Jan 31, 2006

Hey...what kind of party is this? there's no booze and only one hooker!

silly sevens
My god there's just so much awful facial hair in all these pictures. Is that an important part of the cosplay?

Firstscion
Apr 11, 2008

Born Lucky


That's how you know IMC has no idea who Robert Evans is cause there is only one thing he likes more than guns and that's machetes.

0 rows returned
Apr 9, 2007

you cant properly call yourself an operator without a lovely beard

Dixie Cretin Seaman
Jan 22, 2008

all hat and one catte
Hot Rope Guy
https://twitter.com/MikeDrucker/status/1219290984061788161

Doomtalker
Dec 10, 2019

Tier 1 high speed low drag tactical tyrant resistance!

LonsomeSon
Nov 22, 2009

A fishperson in an intimidating hat!

It’s amazing because tradition in the Infantry at least is you don’t get a helmet cover until you’ve qualified with a service rifle, so all of these tacticool motherfuckers are LARPing around as the bootest loving privates with scraggly teenage chin whiskers to match.

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Some nasty rear end losers

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Doesn't stop leftists in literally every other country

TenementFunster
Feb 20, 2003

The Cooler King
i'm seeing a lot of conspicuously plateless "plate carriers" out there

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

TenementFunster
Feb 20, 2003

The Cooler King

lol threepers

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Youth Decay
Aug 18, 2015

Youth Decay
Aug 18, 2015

https://twitter.com/socialistdogmom/status/1219310299720929288

just Alex Jones yelling into a megaphone while his tank rolls down Main Street, nbd

He took the tank onto Cary Street too, I hope he didn't damage the cobblestone streets.

Dixie Cretin Seaman
Jan 22, 2008

all hat and one catte
Hot Rope Guy

Youth Decay posted:

https://twitter.com/socialistdogmom/status/1219310299720929288

just Alex Jones yelling into a megaphone while his tank rolls down Main Street, nbd

He took the tank onto Cary Street too, I hope he didn't damage the cobblestone streets.

that's not a tank it's a tactical hummer

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:

that's not a tank it's a tactical hummer

It's Canadian lol

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:

that's not a tank it's a tactical hummer

I though that's when your squad mate goes down on you in the motor pool.

CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better

LonsomeSon posted:

It’s amazing because tradition in the Infantry at least is you don’t get a helmet cover until you’ve qualified with a service rifle, so all of these tacticool motherfuckers are LARPing around as the bootest loving privates with scraggly teenage chin whiskers to match.

Pretty sure that you have to be clean shaven unless you are on active deployment so it's not even that, they just stole their big brother's greens and are wearing them around for costume day.

But what can we expect from these boot-minded people who can be defeated by a particularly long flight of stairs.

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
beard means you're special ops dontchaknow :dukedog:

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

MaxieSatan posted:

Based on the tzitit hastily clipped to his pants, I believe it's a shofar, which definitely doesn't belong at a loving gun rally of all places

I think we're both right, a shofar made out of a kudu horn. afaik kudus are the only animals that have that helix shape horn

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

MizPiz posted:

Doesn't stop leftists in literally every other country

It is difficult to make a simple comparison with other countries and end up with a meaningful analysis, since the US is in a weird place.

A lot of the national identity is based around individualism and the illusion of freedom. Like other nominally "free" countries voters supposedly hold overriding authority, but the political structure is warped/corrupted so real decisions are dictated by a kleptocratic oligarchy. (How many major parties do we have that represent their people and not the donor class?) The sham democracy facilitates indirect/nonviolent suppression so being a dissident isn't quite a suicidal as in overtly brutal totalitarian dictatorships... until the rich feel threatened.

The history of leftist movements in the US is basically the definition of 'learned helplessness' so it is hard to miss the reasons why people get complacent/hopeless without falling into the despair/outrage that leads to revolutions. Bread-and-circuses also goes a long way toward maintaining stability but it's the kind of thing that works until it doesn't.

Dmitri-9
Nov 30, 2004

There's something really sexy about Scrooge McDuck. I love Uncle Scrooge.
3% cosplayers have killed more people this month than Antifa has killed in the last 30 years.

DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case


the traditional way that capital classes prevent revolt by the laboring classes is to 1) divide them and 2) buy some of them off. 1) has been very successful and continues to be, as class consciousness among the american proletariat has been suppressed to the point of nonexistence; but 2) is also required, and has been kind of falling apart lately as inequality accelerates, which has provided the crack needed for leftist resurgence

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/TheDevilHistory/status/1219242603893481472?s=19

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Dmitri-9 posted:

3% cosplayers have killed more people this month than Antifa has killed in the last 30 years.

did they kill someone this month?

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

the traditional way that capital classes prevent revolt by the laboring classes is to 1) divide them and 2) buy some of them off. 1) has been very successful and continues to be, as class consciousness among the american proletariat has been suppressed to the point of nonexistence; but 2) is also required, and has been kind of falling apart lately as inequality accelerates, which has provided the crack needed for leftist resurgence

Also beating and murdering them

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

the traditional way that capital classes prevent revolt by the laboring classes is to 1) divide them and 2) buy some of them off. 1) has been very successful and continues to be, as class consciousness among the american proletariat has been suppressed to the point of nonexistence; but 2) is also required, and has been kind of falling apart lately as inequality accelerates, which has provided the crack needed for leftist resurgence

coincidentally it also provided the crack that hunter biden smoked

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DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case


brugroffil posted:

Also beating and murdering them

that's part of 1, unless you think carnegie and rockfeller were out there with pipe wrenches. the cultivation of law enforcement as union-busters, COINTELPRO operators, and more recently protest-quellers is part of the strategy to turn the working class against itself. the whole cultivation of the tier 1 operator/WARFIGHTER cult of machismo, and the accompanying feminine-coding of leftist and antiwar movements (soyboys, cuck etc.) is a way to make the economic clash into a cultural one. police officers won't beat and kill protestors if they think that the protestors are agitating for the officers' rights-- but if they think that the protestors are trying to undermine Traditional Masculinity, of which they are the self-appointed guardians, they won't even consider the economic dimensions. this is also heavily racialized, and capital has successfully weaponized white male anxiety about racial equality to conscript young white men into attacking and killing advocates of change by appealing to a racist desire to defend whiteness.

when white police officers killed ferguson protestors, they weren't thinking "aha, this'll ensure that i remain economically precarious by defusing a challenge to the capitalist power structure!" they were thinking "this'll teach them that white men are still in charge." the irony of being "in charge" when they're still living paycheck to paycheck, their kids won't get to go to college without huge debt, and they'll be working until they die is of course lost on them. individual senior officers do very well of course but that's part of 2.

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