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https://twitter.com/ryxcommar/status/1217871161712893953 Congrats to whichever one of you is on the verge of their first job offer
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# ? Jan 17, 2020 11:46 |
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# ? May 28, 2024 14:28 |
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lol at standing your ground on $69,420 in San Francisco and having the company think you’re screwing THEM. love ~ S T A R T U P C U L T U R E ~
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# ? Jan 17, 2020 14:32 |
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142069 should've been it
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# ? Jan 17, 2020 16:10 |
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feel the ku-bern-etes
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# ? Jan 17, 2020 16:13 |
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cube-air-neat-ays
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# ? Jan 17, 2020 16:41 |
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I ended up with a phone screen for a job I'm under-qualified for and I can't decide if I should cancel and save the time or try to summon my mediocre white man energy
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# ? Jan 17, 2020 20:17 |
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fake it till you make it, Gerald
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# ? Jan 17, 2020 20:20 |
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Ferr posted:I ended up with a phone screen for a job I'm under-qualified for and I can't decide if I should cancel and save the time or try to summon my mediocre white man energy If you aren't stealing from your job you're stealing from your family
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# ? Jan 17, 2020 20:21 |
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:fake it till you make it, Gerald It's true. I'm mostly worried about talking my way through the phone screen only to waste half a day of PTO in order to eat poo poo at a whiteboard later.
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# ? Jan 17, 2020 20:25 |
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Asleep Style posted:If you aren't stealing from your job you're stealing from your family
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# ? Jan 17, 2020 20:45 |
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Asleep Style posted:If you aren't stealing from your job you're stealing from your family
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# ? Jan 17, 2020 20:54 |
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Ferr posted:It's true. I'm mostly worried about talking my way through the phone screen only to waste half a day of PTO in order to eat poo poo at a whiteboard later. are you actively looking for work and trying to change jobs? eating poo poo at an interview is good practice and experience for the interview you really want
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# ? Jan 17, 2020 21:36 |
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Ferr posted:I ended up with a phone screen for a job I'm under-qualified for and I can't decide if I should cancel and save the time or try to summon my mediocre white man energy All the wrong people have impostor syndrome
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# ? Jan 17, 2020 21:37 |
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Sapozhnik posted:All the wrong people have impostor syndrome
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# ? Jan 17, 2020 21:41 |
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Sapozhnik posted:All the wrong people have impostor syndrome
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# ? Jan 17, 2020 21:42 |
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ShadowHawk posted:Imposter syndrome is so common here that if you don't have it, you might not belong I thought I had enough imposter syndrome, but then I got here and suddenly I'm not so sure
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# ? Jan 17, 2020 21:53 |
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I on the other hand do have imposter syndrome, so I know I belong
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# ? Jan 17, 2020 21:57 |
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I have almost a year's worth of fruitless interviews under my belt at this point so I come by my impostor syndrome honestly at least
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# ? Jan 17, 2020 22:03 |
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it's coo-bern-eights you peons
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# ? Jan 18, 2020 00:27 |
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Ferr posted:I have almost a year's worth of fruitless interviews under my belt at this point so I come by my impostor syndrome honestly at least i had the same as you but then i got a job which pays shitloads more than all of the jobs that i failed to get so keep trying
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# ? Jan 18, 2020 00:35 |
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i pronounce it so that it rhymes with di-uh-beet-us, and say it with a twang too coo-ber-NEET-us Poopernickel fucked around with this message at 00:40 on Jan 18, 2020 |
# ? Jan 18, 2020 00:36 |
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i usually pronounce it "Q burr net ees" but lately i've been experimenting with just saying "kates"; i'm not sure if i like it or not and im pretty sure noone knows what i mean when i say it
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# ? Jan 18, 2020 00:39 |
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Corla Plankun posted:i usually pronounce it "Q burr net ees" but lately i've been experimenting with just saying "kates"; i'm not sure if i like it or not and im pretty sure noone knows what i mean when i say it this is even worse jesus h, say 'kay-eights' if you're going this route
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# ? Jan 18, 2020 00:51 |
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Poopernickel posted:i pronounce it so that it rhymes with di-uh-beet-us, and say it with a twang too this is how my extremely german coworker pronounces it
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# ? Jan 18, 2020 01:54 |
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im ashamed to say i pronounce it ku-ber-NE-tes like some kind of roman instead of ku-BER-ne-tes
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# ? Jan 18, 2020 02:04 |
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extreme props if youve been pronouncing 'cybernetic' as 'kubernetic' all along
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# ? Jan 18, 2020 02:06 |
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think todays onsite went really well, no whiteboarding questions and a lot of soft people stuff
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# ? Jan 18, 2020 02:07 |
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Sapozhnik posted:All the wrong people have impostor syndrome just work in a support role for complex technical poo poo for a few years, it'll cure that straightaway you may not have full confidence in your abilities, but you will be blown away by how many people are completely and utterly incompetent despite being a "senior devops engineer" or what have you
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# ? Jan 18, 2020 05:56 |
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wondering if it is time to start looking for a new job downsides of current job: - stressful as hell, i just got a burnout - figgies are not very high by tech company standards (€65k) upsides of current job: - getting as much (paid) sick leave to fix said burnout - money is better than all my peers at other companies - got a promotion to management - got lots of good experience for the CV - 15-20m commute - nice people thinking about trying remote work for US companies to get $$$, or seeing if i can get an amazon/uber/etc job (1h commute tho) hmm
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# ? Jan 20, 2020 15:16 |
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I don’t know a ton about foreign figgies, but did that management promotion come with a bump in pay? basically, are you saying your pay is low even after a raise?
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# ? Jan 20, 2020 15:23 |
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the management promotion (software engineer to team lead of 5 engineers) came with a grand total of €100/mo extra (~2% raise) lmao when I asked for more, they said that they would fix things in Dec with minimum of a 10% raise, but then I went off sick, so I don't yet know my 2020 comp. but i'm not holding my breath quote:basically, are you saying your pay is low even after a raise? yes
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# ? Jan 20, 2020 15:38 |
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yeah man, if they say “we’ll give you a raise” and then they don’t, it’s time to bounce. even if you feel like they might have a reason for not doing it, they should tell you the reason and lay it out clearly, not wait around and let your imagination run wild.
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# ? Jan 20, 2020 15:41 |
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Mr SuperAwesome posted:when I asked for more, they said that they would fix things in Dec with minimum of a 10% raise we'll fix it
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# ? Jan 20, 2020 15:57 |
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looking for some goons to maybe lay out some realistic expectations / advice based on this big dumb carepost: got my first computer touching job doing baby sysadmin last year. gonna graduate from a mediocre program later this year. the original plan was to get into development come grad time, but now i am weighing pros and cons between that and trying to work more in infrastructure. im not terribly good at algo, but i like organizing information and developing classes and what not. infra work seems pretty cool, writing automation and config files, but seems like less programming in general and a lot less OOP programming. there is also the burnout factor from being on call a lot. pursuing infrastructure would be starting from a huge deficit because school has not prepared me for it at all, and i never considered it before. i only got this job on the strength of having messed around with linux on my own time. i normally would not consider it if i wasnt working adjacent to it already and getting to see how cool it can be. what does experienced infrastructure work load look like compared to traditional developers, and what kind of career can i pursue on this path? would i be able to transition to dev without a salary hit if necessary? im pretty much a huge idiot, but i work hard and like to learn a lot on my own time. its been a long time going to school and working full time so im deffo trying to chase some figgies. how do i leverage my current job to a better position (real engineering job) come grad time. it may be more in their interest having me do what i do now instead of trying to move up.
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# ? Jan 21, 2020 01:59 |
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SRE positions may suit you. some orgs call their sysadmins SREs, but the actual discipline is doing engineering work - automation, monitoring, etc - around infrastructure. the on-call thing sucks, but any decent org will give you on-call pay, a reasonable schedule, etc
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# ? Jan 21, 2020 02:10 |
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also no school program can get you fully prepared for any irl job. all it does is set a general baseline that you build on in the actual field- whichever direction you may decide to go into. i went to a p dece program and all i learned about databases is some joining, lookup tables, what an index is, etc. now i do it for a living just realize that this is just the beginning and that your first job (or first few jobs) are gonna suck. just keep working at it and keep searching for better opportunities until you find your happy place PIZZA.BAT fucked around with this message at 03:21 on Jan 21, 2020 |
# ? Jan 21, 2020 03:17 |
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as a sysadmin you'll be writing some scripts here and there, you won't really be coding
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# ? Jan 21, 2020 04:43 |
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Bored Online posted:words you will end up writing lots of YAML. its not necessarily a bad thing. devops/SRE money is also pretty good these days, esp compared to dev roles (ive seen people paying significantly more). imo, transitioning from infra/sysadmin/devops/SRE (whatever job title you get) to a traditional dev role won't be super easy unless you invest in writing lots of tooling (ie. do dev work as part of your infra role, you will need to force this, it wont happen organically) my current job straddles infra and dev work, and personally I much prefer dev work, but neither is particularly better or worse. pick whichever you prefer honestly Achmed Jones posted:the on-call thing sucks, but any decent org will give you on-call pay, a reasonable schedule, etc what sort of on-call pay is considered reasonable? i get ~1 day's pay for doing 1 (week-long) shift of on-call. it sure doesn't feel like much
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# ? Jan 21, 2020 09:52 |
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how common is it for devs to be expected to provide 24/7 support on their product
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# ? Jan 21, 2020 09:54 |
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Achmed Jones posted:SRE positions may suit you. some orgs call their sysadmins SREs, but the actual discipline is doing engineering work - automation, monitoring, etc - around infrastructure. Note that essentially nothing out there prepares people for proper infrastructure jobs. Essentially the only place to get experience with big distributed systems is big tech companies, so it's totally normal for them to hire general programmers and expect to have to train you on them. Similar things are true about really domain-specific software or tools. That said "infrastructure" like "SRE" can mean a lot of different things depending on the company.
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