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refleks posted:So McTurtle is directing his opening speech directly to Trump or...? probably. thats what the GOP has been doing for years.
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Jan 21, 2020 18:36
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Munkeymon posted:But not Giuliani?! Giuliani has absolutely no trouble giving an honest recollection of any and all crimes he or others may have committed. Usually unprompted, and often on national TV.
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Jan 21, 2020 18:38
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eke out posted:he's not a member of the legal team representing trump in the impeachment trial Well then he's already there  But seriously, he's basically the enabler/executor for the abuse of power article, so he ought to be fair game, IMO.
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Jan 21, 2020 18:44
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McConnel is a brilliant politician and knows how to play the game. That is what scares me the most - he is a scumbag, a liar, and a terrible person. I really hope he gets voted out.
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Jan 21, 2020 18:44
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AngrySpork posted:McConnel is a brilliant politician and knows how to play the game. That is what scares me the most - he is a scumbag, a liar, and a terrible person. he might. isnt he second most unpopular senator.
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Jan 21, 2020 18:45
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I have to honestly say I’ve never heard McConnell speak. This is wild.
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Jan 21, 2020 18:47
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:The Access Hollywood tape should have been the first indication that he's bulletproof. Sure, you can hit him but like a god drat cockroach he just won't die (figuratively. I'm not advocating violence. Hi, FBI!). That's poor evidence of him being bulletproof though. He got saved from that scandal by the quick and timely intervention of Wikileaks.
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Jan 21, 2020 18:47
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Dapper_Swindler posted:he might. isnt he second most unpopular senator. Yea, Collins is the most unpopular right now, I think.
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Jan 21, 2020 18:47
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Munkeymon posted:Well then he's already there to clarify, the reason I linked that is that they're trying to disqualify an active member of trump's legal team, white house counsel Pat Cipollone. the same thing doesn't apply to Rudy because he's not actually representing Trump in this proceeding -- the fact that he's a witness may be relevant, but that's it's own separate matter
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Jan 21, 2020 18:47
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Dapper_Swindler posted:he might. isnt he second most unpopular senator. Voter suppression works.
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Jan 21, 2020 18:49
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PeterWeller posted:That's poor evidence of him being bulletproof though. He got saved from that scandal by the quick and timely intervention of Wikileaks. We've built up a pretty sizable body of evidence before and since. If we're talking specifically about how the fact that he's a living embodiment of political scandal will affect his election chances, well, I guess we'll find out. But the fundamentals of his national approval are baked in at this point.
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Jan 21, 2020 18:49
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I yearn for the day when Rudy takes the stand under oath. A man can dream.....
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Jan 21, 2020 18:51
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Is Cruz overhearing this right now? Edit: Yes, he is, but WHY? AngrySpork fucked around with this message at 18:59 on Jan 21, 2020 |
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Jan 21, 2020 18:51
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AngrySpork posted:Is Cruz overhearing this right now? Most senior member present?
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Jan 21, 2020 19:12
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AngrySpork posted:Is Cruz overhearing this right now? NPR just has a stream of the hall and a police officer with a serious mullet
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Jan 21, 2020 19:16
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Flip Yr Wig posted:We've built up a pretty sizable body of evidence before and since. If we're talking specifically about how the fact that he's a living embodiment of political scandal will affect his election chances, well, I guess we'll find out. But the fundamentals of his national approval are baked in at this point. The existence of other evidence doesn't make the Access Hollywood scandal itself good evidence.
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Jan 21, 2020 19:21
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What resolution are they discussing currently?
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Jan 21, 2020 19:29
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hanales posted:I have to honestly say I’ve never heard McConnell speak. This is wild. I liked him more when he starred in the "Duck And Cover" movie that played for us in the 1960s.
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Jan 21, 2020 19:29
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Cipillone is not a great public speaker.
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Jan 21, 2020 19:30
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refleks posted:Most senior member present? There are plenty of other more senior senators. I guess the GOP caucus just deciced to let him preside
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Jan 21, 2020 19:30
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hanales posted:I have to honestly say I’ve never heard McConnell speak. This is wild. The banality of evil.
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Jan 21, 2020 19:34
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Schiff's giving an opening statement now, FYI
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Jan 21, 2020 19:39
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Yeah it is pretty good. I am steeling myself for how mad the rebuttal is going to make me.
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Jan 21, 2020 19:40
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eke out posted:Schiff's giving an opening statement now, FYI Sorry, Schiff is giving what's basically the main democratic position against the McConnell rules resolution, which comes off a lot like an opening statement But technically openings don't come until tomorrow
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Jan 21, 2020 19:45
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I'm going to be disappointed
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Jan 21, 2020 19:47
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AngrySpork posted:McConnel is a brilliant politician and knows how to play the game. That is what scares me the most - he is a scumbag, a liar, and a terrible person. Great rules lawyering, though.
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Jan 21, 2020 19:48
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FilthyImp posted:I don't know about brilliant as much as he's a craven rear end in a top hat that has no problem making GBS threads all over things because "Well it doesn't say a Dog can't..." in the fine print. Thats what I mean by a good politician. I do not mean a good person. He knows how to play people and play the game and get what he wants.
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Jan 21, 2020 19:49
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FilthyImp posted:I don't know about brilliant as much as he's a craven rear end in a top hat that has no problem making GBS threads all over things because "Well it doesn't say a Dog can't..." in the fine print. He's a staggeringly effective evil dooer.
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Jan 21, 2020 20:02
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https://twitter.com/lacaldwelldc/status/1219690775816130567?s=21 Sounds like the scenario where John Roberts isn't allowed to sleep for two days has been changed
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Jan 21, 2020 20:17
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eke out posted:https://twitter.com/lacaldwelldc/status/1219690775816130567?s=21 they probably couldnt get the votes for that level of ratfucking.
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Jan 21, 2020 20:19
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Jay Sekulow is bad at his job but he's a lawyer employed by Trump so I repeat myself
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Jan 21, 2020 20:21
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eke out posted:Jay Sekulow is bad at his job but he's a lawyer employed by Trump so I repeat myself i am cool with that.
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Jan 21, 2020 20:22
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It is so tiresome that their strategy for months has just been to angrily growl and shout nonsense.
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Jan 21, 2020 20:22
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Dapper_Swindler posted:they probably couldnt get the votes for that level of ratfucking. Better for him to cave on those two points to get the wishy-washy R's on his side for the big fuckery still in there. Concede a battle now to hopefully win the war.
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Jan 21, 2020 20:22
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Lassitude posted:It is so tiresome that their strategy for months has just been to angrily growl and shout nonsense. It's literally all they have. It's more tiresome that it actually works.
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Jan 21, 2020 20:22
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eke out posted:Jay Sekulow is bad at his job but he's a lawyer employed by Trump so I repeat myself But he's someone who has appeared on Fox so I'm sure the chuds are eating his bullshit up.
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Jan 21, 2020 20:23
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tecnocrat posted:Better for him to cave on those two points to get the wishy-washy R's on his side for the big fuckery still in there. Concede a battle now to hopefully win the war. i mean even if those wish washers vote to convict it won't be enough. we know the future, its just we don't know the path.
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Jan 21, 2020 20:24
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mcmagic posted:But he's someone who has appeared on Fox so I'm sure the chuds are eating his bullshit up. yeah I have no doubt he's performing the role that he thinks Trump wants to see, which is the only thing that matters here Sekulow's job isn't to win (he wins by default) it's to look like a Strong Man on TV so he can keep making money off Trump's infinite legal problems for the rest of his life
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eke out posted:yeah I have no doubt he's performing the role that he thinks Trump wants to see, which is the only thing that matters here Well... given Trump's propensity to just not pay his lawyers....
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