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lol @ this in credge this didn't pop up in credge beta and doesn't pop up in vivaldi block annoying ads y'all
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windows tryin to convince you to use edge instead of whatever you like every step of the way is trash too ofc not gonna deny that
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Jan 22, 2020 14:12
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AtomD posted:windows tryin to convince you to use edge instead of whatever you like every step of the way is trash too ofc not gonna deny that I liked that pop-up that windows used to show you iirc when you changed your default browser to chrome bc it looked like a shaggar post ("why not use the best browser, edge?" or something like that)
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Jan 22, 2020 14:45
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Zlodo posted:I liked that pop-up that windows used to show you iirc when you changed your default browser to chrome bc it looked like a shaggar post ("why not use the best browser, edge?" or something like that) it also showed that when you used chredge previews, for maximum annoyance.
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Jan 22, 2020 15:27
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Bulgakov posted:no gods no masters installing it in a VM it’s literally chrome op
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Jan 22, 2020 15:30
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If you use chredge you may be sending google less data than if you used chrome, but you're still giving google control of the Internet by ensuring chromium's dominance.
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Jan 22, 2020 15:48
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Bulgakov posted:no gods no masters installing it in a VM why would you install the beta when the final version came out last week?
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Jan 22, 2020 15:52
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mystes posted:If you use chredge you may be sending google less data than if you used chrome, but you're still giving google control of the Internet by ensuring chromium's dominance. i too do most of my activism for a better future by way of careful software selection
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:i too do most of my activism for a better future by way of careful software selection
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Jan 22, 2020 15:57
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this seems like "call the justice department" stuff https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/1220002505117065216
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Jan 22, 2020 16:21
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loving with google is praxis
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Jan 22, 2020 16:26
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Pinterest Mom posted:this seems like "call the justice department" stuff how long until every github msi download gets automatically replaced with poo poo like this, sourceforge style
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Jan 22, 2020 16:31
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binged again! also lol https://twitter.com/swiftonsecurity/status/1220004309036937217
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Jan 22, 2020 17:05
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mystes posted:Because there's no way everyone using a specific free browser could result in that company having complete control over the web because websites can't be bothered to support anything else. That could never happen. it absolutely could happen, i just highly doubt we can realistically change things through individual choices.
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Jan 22, 2020 17:06
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:it absolutely could happen, i just highly doubt we can realistically change things through individual choices.
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Jan 22, 2020 17:13
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*yosposter in the town square, unkempt and unshaven, dressed in sackcloth and hollering* "Repent! Use Firefox!"
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Jan 22, 2020 18:28
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Zlodo posted:I liked that pop-up that windows used to show you iirc when you changed your default browser to chrome bc it looked like a shaggar post ("why not use the best browser, edge?" or something like that) I like the message that shows up when you press Windows-Tab demanding permission to spy on you and your only choices are Yes and Learn More
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Jan 22, 2020 18:28
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mystes posted:Individually that's true, but Chrome achieved dominance because we spent years telling everyone to use it. The only way to fix that is to start telling everyone you know to use firefox now. Why does it matter if there aren't multiple incompatible rendering engines? Seems like a good thing, I guess I'm all in on Google "controlling the web", then!
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Jan 22, 2020 18:31
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Yeah when in the tech sector has a monopoly led to stagnation and anti-consumer behavior?
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Jan 22, 2020 18:50
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because whomever controls the rendering engine controls what the browser is capable of doing it isn't a coincidence that Mobile Safari is a piece of poo poo but has support for top-of-the-line high performance privacy-preserving ad blocking -- Apple doesn't want you making web sites, they want you making proprietary apps
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when microsoft won the browser wars they went 5 loving year between ie 6 and ie 7 google has the opposite problem of constantly updating chrome and adding the latest draft rfc
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Jan 22, 2020 18:59
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yeah and the web has gotten worse every year since ie6
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Jan 22, 2020 19:52
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ahh yes, the good old days of pop-ups, pop-unders and drive-by 
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Jan 22, 2020 20:07
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Shaggar thinks that ActiveX was better than JavaScript.
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Jan 22, 2020 20:10
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shagger advocated silverlight. let that sink in
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The_Franz posted:ahh yes, the good old days of pop-ups, pop-unders and drive-by yeah previously ads and trackers had to be manually installed by the user. now they're part of w3c thanks to failfox and chome.
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Jan 22, 2020 20:20
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mystes posted:Shaggar thinks that ActiveX was better than JavaScript. yeah any of the languages you could write in for activex are better than javascript.
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imo the web went downhill after ie7, since that's about when facebook, twitter and youtube started up
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failfox and chome are responsible for the proliferation of social networks and the javascript required to support them.
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Shaggar posted:yeah previously ads and trackers had to be manually installed by the user. now they're part of w3c thanks to failfox and chome. lol
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Jan 22, 2020 20:25
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chrome is planning on completely killing 3rd party cookies in the near-future. in conclusion, a land of contrasts
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that just means they've built a different way to track people and they're trying to undercut their competition
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I'm still okay with it since it will make other terrible people suffer
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Jan 22, 2020 20:34
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yeah. browser fingerprinting has been a known concept for at least 10 years now, so removing third-party cookies just means that they've built that to a point where it's even more effective. security theater.
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Jan 22, 2020 20:34
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the only web site I've ever interacted with that requires third-party cookies is login.live.com
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oh good I wouldn't want to deprive myself of alphabet's excellent ad service of showing me things I've already bought
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:chrome is planning on completely killing 3rd party cookies in the near-future. in conclusion, a land of contrasts They aren't killing them until the advertisers who use them have a working alternative so yeah it's kind of pointless.
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necrotic posted:They aren't killing them until the advertisers who use them have a working alternative so yeah it's kind of pointless. ads will be moved to from doubleclick.net to ads.site.com then maybe site.com/ads/ then finally the site will move to doubleclick.net/site.com/
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Perplx posted:ads will be moved to from doubleclick.net to ads.site.com then maybe site.com/ads/ then finally the site will move to https://www.google.com/amp/s/site.com/
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pseudorandom name posted:the only web site I've ever interacted with that requires third-party cookies is login.live.com the one place where theyre actually useful
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