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The_Doctor posted:Janet made a bag of cocaine for Mindy, Maybe this is how we got Disco Janet.
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swickles posted:That's kind of in the direction I thought they were gonna go. I thought the Bad Place would argue that if humans can get better, then it stands to reason they can also get worse, and that people in the Good Place should also have to undergo testing to make sure paradise hasn't killed their sense of right and wrong. But the new test isn't explicitly in the Good Place, it's in a balanced place designed by Good and Bad architects. The argument was not that people already placed should face a test, but that new arrivals should be evaluated before placement. The_Doctor posted:People have lived their good life on Earth and now they get consequence-free pleasure in eternity. Janet made a bag of cocaine for Mindy, so there’s clearly no limits on what a Janet will provide. 1) You're applying an external morality to "providing MINDY (who is explictly separate from Good/Bad) with cocaine" 2) We haven't seen consequence-free pleasure in The Good Place, we've only seen something similar in the faux-Good Places. If the Good Place workers are anything to go by, it's a sickly saccharine paradise, hardly the place where people decide to constantly do bumps for fun. If anything, I'm more interested in the overly forced positivity and supposed "good" and its effects on how the Cockroach Gang function (remember the Good Place folk agreed to the new plan without even being told what it was) Synonymous fucked around with this message at 14:26 on Jan 23, 2020 |
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It seems to me to be very likely that eternal pleasure is seen as as empty as eternal damnation. If there’s nothing to strive for then what’s the point? I see it quite likely they decide eternal anything is pointless and instead work on a system that transcends that somehow.
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swickles posted:Simone is helping someone into/out of the MRI when cowboy boots guy pops in, the MRI magnet rips the spurs off turning them into projectiles. Chidi is ultimately responsible and gets a stomach ache when he learns. lol, that would be amazing. Velius posted:It seems to me to be very likely that eternal pleasure is seen as as empty as eternal damnation. If there’s nothing to strive for then what’s the point? I see it quite likely they decide eternal anything is pointless and instead work on a system that transcends that somehow. I will never have an idea where they are going in this show, but my guess would be reincarnation. Maybe forever? The Bad Place sucks, what with the penis flatteners and all, and if the Good Place sucks too because it's ran by the neo-liberals, maybe they just say do Earth over and over and over and end the afterlife all together. It's a bit of a dark ending because no one will ever get their "moral desserts", but it would hopefully eventually make everyone on Earth their best version of themselves and maybe, eventually, Earth would end up being the Good Place itself.
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1glitch0 posted:I will never have an idea where they are going in this show, but my guess would be reincarnation. Maybe forever? The Bad Place sucks, what with the penis flatteners and all, and if the Good Place sucks too because it's ran by the neo-liberals, maybe they just say do Earth over and over and over and end the afterlife all together. It's a bit of a dark ending because no one will ever get their "moral desserts", but it would hopefully eventually make everyone on Earth their best version of themselves and maybe, eventually, Earth would end up being the Good Place itself. Their current system essentially is reincarnation anyway, only it's constantly recycling through the afterlife rather than Earth. The main reason it even works in the first place is because all the desires and compromising situations you face in life are no longer present in the afterlife and so you can concentrate on improving yourself since you're no longer coming in to conflict with other people or causing them inadvertent suffering just by living your own life. If you constantly reincarnated on Earth then that no longer applies and while a small percentage of people might eventually improve enough to get in to The Good Place, the majority never would and instead you'd just have them spinning their wheels for a while as mostly similarly moral people and ending up in the Bad Place anyway because the choices they had to make to ensure a life for themselves on Earth damned them for eternity.
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I think they'll land on "What's the point of being good if you aren't still able to do good."
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If I had to guess, which is a bad idea honestly, I think the issue with the good place is what's the point of it. It's hollow and empty. You play basketball, opposing team misses all shots, you make all shots even when blindfolded and throw it in the opposite direction. It'd be pointless. It's like the idea of heaven being this thing where you are just blissed out all the time by proximity to his holy light. What's the point of it, why bother, and why want that?
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I bet Mike Schur is all read-up on both John Calvin and Thomas Hobbes.
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I think that's probably a bit much to be tackling in two episodes (or three, since I think the finale is double length?). In that same vein though I'd wonder what's the point of being judged at all? The only reason to set up a system that judges people's lives in that way is for some kind of higher purpose and eternal damnation or gratification doesn't really seem like it's worth doing it for. It's basically a self-fulfilling system where people are judged so that they can be punished or rewarded, but not to serve any further purpose beyond the idle whim of demons. Who seem to only exist to punish those people in the first place. More than that, what's the purpose of Earth in a system that actively acknowledges that living on Earth is kind of poo poo and is instead going to push you through dozens or even hundreds of afterlives to test you without any real goal or motive? Why not just have everyone live in the afterlife forever?
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tsob posted:Their current system essentially is reincarnation anyway, only it's constantly recycling through the afterlife rather than Earth. The main reason it even works in the first place is because all the desires and compromising situations you face in life are no longer present in the afterlife and so you can concentrate on improving yourself since you're no longer coming in to conflict with other people or causing them inadvertent suffering just by living your own life. If you constantly reincarnated on Earth then that no longer applies and while a small percentage of people might eventually improve enough to get in to The Good Place, the majority never would and instead you'd just have them spinning their wheels for a while as mostly similarly moral people and ending up in the Bad Place anyway because the choices they had to make to ensure a life for themselves on Earth damned them for eternity. I mean if I was in charge I'd just put all souls in heaven, because why not? If Earth is just where you make sucky decisions, why not just throw everyone into the Good Place immediately. I don't think that's where they're going, but the concept of the afterlife is so idiotic it's tough to write yourself out of it. Like why would there even have to be test at all? I wonder if the cockroaches meet God. If they do I hope it'd be Bill Murray.
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What if it is revealed that the Good Place is just a temporarily holding station before being reincarnated back on earth because the real Good Place is the journey, not the destination. It ends with Chidi and Eleanor preparing to get reincarnated "When you're ready..." and then it turns out that it is all just the ending of What Dreams May Come.
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Alternatively, this episode and next weeks double length episode combined are just a shot for shot recreation of Koreeda’s After Life.
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A little heart over the "i". e: wait what
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Lisa Kudrow!
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:There's math on my shirt! Is it an S or a math?
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Okay, this is the twist I was expecting.
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"We've invented cosmic Coachella"
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Heaven can be improved with a suicide door. Who knew?
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NEXT WEEK IS GOING TO BE SO GOOD AND ROUGH IF IT'S A ONE HOUR GOODBYE 
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Pinwiz11 posted:NEXT WEEK IS GOING TO BE SO GOOD AND ROUGH IF IT'S A ONE HOUR GOODBYE Oh god, they're going to go full Six Feet Under finale aren't they, christ
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Maxwell Lord posted:drat I’m so not ready
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muscles like this! posted:No clue what they're going to do for an hour finale. Are they just going to...kill themselves? I can't seem them doing that, it's not the kind of thing that would get past S&P.
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