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FlamingLiberal posted:i would be surprised if Lore was involved at all since Data says at the end of Descent Part 2 that he deactivated him, and they at least make it seem like that’s the end of Lore. But who knows. but he didn't destroy him, so it's possible Maddox got his hands on him I guess Overall, I enjoyed it. It wasn't perfect but I felt like it respected the source material more than Disco does, so I'm going to give it the benefit of the doubt for now.
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I think it’s charming they’re likely going to bring back Maddox, that guy from one episode of season 2 who we never saw again
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Someone on reddit managed to pick out that there's a Kasidy Yates Interstellar Freight advertisement in the Boston skyline. Above and to the left of the Kings logo.
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Tighclops posted:It's a Q reference Yeah, I don't think it is a tipoff Q will have anything to do with the story though. Just Picard having a nice dream about old times.
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nine-gear crow posted:Unfortunately Alex Kurtzman is a disciple of the increasingly reviled JJ Abrams Mystery Box style of storytelling that was perfected on Lost. And it takes a while, if ever, to unlearn that kind of storytelling. Kurtzman is exec but not lead in Picard, don't forget, Chabon was showrunner. Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:"Let's just concentrate all of the shipbuilding capacity for our galactic empire in a single, convenient location." Eh, it's the biggest fleet yard but not the only one. Defiant and Prometheus both came from Antares Fleetyards, and Excelsior and Enterprise-E and the Connies and a bunch of others came from San Francisco Yards. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Jan 24, 2020 |
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Reading through these comments give me some small hope that I might enjoy this series (I still haven't watched the first episode yet). That said, I'm still pretty salty that they're considering Nemesis as cannon.
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Lenny Nero posted:Reading through these comments give me some small hope that I might enjoy this series (I still haven't watched the first episode yet). That said, I'm still pretty salty that they're considering Nemesis as cannon. They've never decanonized anything that was on screen, even though they joked about Threshold.
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Nemesis was the last time the TNG cast really appeared in Trek, so it was bound to come up again
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MichiganCubbie posted:They've never decanonized anything that was on screen, even though they joked about Threshold. Well, TAS.
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MikeJF posted:Well, TAS. That was actually never canon before a few years ago, when it was officially "canonized," IIRC.
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MichiganCubbie posted:That was actually never canon before a few years ago, when it was officially "canonized," IIRC. Say what?
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Lenny Nero posted:Reading through these comments give me some small hope that I might enjoy this series (I still haven't watched the first episode yet). That said, I'm still pretty salty that they're considering Nemesis as cannon. As much as I hate that movie, the use of "Blue Skies" at the beginning kind of got me.
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Drink-Mix Man posted:Say what? Wikipedia's article for TAS posted:On June 27, 2007, Star Trek's official site incorporated information from The Animated Series into its library section,[21] clarifying, finally, that the animated series is part of the Star Trek canon. Both David Gerrold and D. C. Fontana have stated that the animated series is essentially the fourth season that fans wanted originally.
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The Enterprise F, captained by Thomas Riker, somehow redeemed from a lifetime of prison.
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You know, TAS looks too primitive to show as part of modern TV cycles, but there's good acting and fun stories there; they should reanimate it to today's standards and they could slot it into modern programming repeats nicely.
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weird that the picture of worf the TV shows us doesn't look anything like T'Kuvma
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Drink-Mix Man posted:Well I'll be. At least one character from it appeared in Disco as a easter egg. The space kitty cats are real.
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Admiral Bosch posted:weird that the picture of worf the TV shows us doesn't look anything like T'Kuvma Yeah, how about that. I hope they just start using the TNG Klingon look in Disco season 3, chalk it up to some fansplanation, and never go back.
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There was some interview that said if worf shows up, he'll look like worf. They have different looks for various romulans, so they can do it for Klingons as well.
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Cojawfee posted:There was some interview that said if worf shows up, he'll look like worf. They have different looks for various romulans, so they can do it for Klingons as well. And he did! The case is closed.
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Cojawfee posted:There was some interview that said if worf shows up, he'll look like worf. They have different looks for various romulans, so they can do it for Klingons as well. We haven't seen any Klingons that we know, unlike when we saw Kor, Kang, and Koloth in DS9. Every Klingon we've seen could be from a different "race" of Klingons. Although, one of them is from the House of Kor, and we know Kor. MichiganCubbie fucked around with this message at 16:58 on Jan 24, 2020 |
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It turns out all the discrepancies in Disco are because what we saw was a flawed historical recreation put together in the 31st century, where the show now takes place. The reboot writes itself, make it so
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Drink-Mix Man posted:It turns out all the discrepancies in Disco are because what we saw was a flawed historical recreation put together in the 31st century, where the show now takes place. I would laugh my rear end of if season 3 starts with a recap of the first two seasons, which then pulls out to show the Disco crew showing it to a bunch of normal looking 31st century Klingons. Stamets: “And that’s how we got here. Also, I forgot to download the holographic Klingon model before we left, so we took some liberties.”
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MichiganCubbie posted:That was actually never canon before a few years ago, when it was officially "canonized," IIRC.
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Didn't they blow up the entire Romulan empire in Nemesis, yeah that would have to be addressed. Can't wait for the dominion war to come up
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zoux posted:Didn't they blow up the entire Romulan empire in Nemesis, yeah that would have to be addressed. Can't wait for the dominion war to come up That was Star Trek 2009, and an early sign of how trigger happy Abrams seems to be when it comes to established franchises. Fortunately this show isn't written solely by hacks, so we're actually shown some consequence to such a major event.
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They also pulled it back a bit so it was just Romulus' star and not some random star that took out a chunk of of the galaxy apparently. Though I wish they would have just ignored that entirely. JJ Abrams is poo poo and everything he comes up with should be purged from the canon of whatever franchise he's ruining.
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It felt like they retconned that out of the entirely stupid "a supernova destroying the galaxy!" thing to a more reasonable supernova destroying the Romulus system + autoclaving anything within a ~30 light year radius. They weren't talking about it as a threat to anyone but Romulans, and in the comics it's clear there's a period of time during which the evacuations can take place.
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According to Google, this was the original extent of the Hobus Supernova: That's kinda insanely stupid. Romulus's star going supernova unexpectedly is a better idea. Maybe Dr. Soran survived and decided he hated Romulans.
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zoux posted:Wait, aren't Romulus and Vulcan in the same star system? They're related right? No they’re nowhere near each other. Romulans are descended from Vulcans who hosed off to the other end of space when Vulcans started talking about “logic” and “reason” and “not constantly slaughtering each other over everything”
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MichiganCubbie posted:According to Google, this was the original extent of the Hobus Supernova: The radius of the supernova (which, huh, it does look like severe radiation from supernovae actually does extend dozens of light-years?) perfectly matching the border of the empire is the dumbest part. It's a lot more interesting if a few Federation worlds are in the radius and the Federation decides to invest 100% of resources into those 2-4 planets and refuses to help out the dozens of Romulan planets!
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zoux posted:Wait, aren't Romulus and Vulcan in the same star system? They're related right? The Romulans were exiled from Vulcan 2,000 years ago after their ancestors rejected Surak’s teachings and logic. They left the planet and settled on Romulus. I don’t think the two planets have ever been that close to each other though.
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MichiganCubbie posted:According to Google, this was the original extent of the Hobus Supernova: I'm 70 Virgins
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