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I feel like the insta build town hall is big too. They can keep taking your expos out and you can keep building them around the map with a wind walking blademaster.
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gotta say, i went from being a huge fan of orc orb to thinking it's actually bad for our strat. picking off single units is cool and good but the real poo poo that wins you games is hero snipes. having a full duration hex (and entangle, but that's a much more specific scenario for the very rare event that the enemy is also abusing staff of save unit) is very crucial to killing the death knight and forcing the undead to rage quit. purge orb is just bad news for that imo
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Where do you guys go for build guides?
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Mokhu posted:Where do you guys go for build guides? what is that
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Played Warcraft 3 a ton back in the day, the day being 17~ years ago. I even remember playing a leaked beta copy and it became an instant buy. We usually played 2v2s, highest we ever got was in the mid 30s on ladder sometime after Frozen Throne released. Anyway, life happened, I finished university and moved away and we never played again. Cut to last October when I found out about Reforged, we decided to try and get into it and keep up with a weekly game night. Jumped into the beta a few days ago and... I really hope that the beta is not representative of the final product, although I don't know how it couldn't be at this point. The servers have terrible lag spikes that create 1-3 second hangs. The graphics badly need some video control sliders because the contrast is way too low on the units while the fog of war is so dark I can't see the map underneath. The controls are occasionally unresponsive, or maybe my keyboard is dying but sometimes I'll click a number to jump to a control group and nothing happens, then I have to mash the button and finally it does. Also I lowered my graphics settings and turned off some effects and my frame rate got worse. Which is funny because I was getting 60 smooth as silk with everything on, but for some reason lowering things makes it drop down to 45. Trying to get my legs back under me is a tough battle. Micro is hard. Splitting my focus so I remember to be churning out units while clearing a creep or harassing is difficult. One friend wants to play Orc and the other Human so I'll probably be playing NE. The lack of early healing is rough. I'm sure I'll get used to it but overall Reforged has some problems under the hood that are really hurting the overall experience though. Mokhu posted:Where do you guys go for build guides? I found a few on Reddit that give matchup advice, otherwise I just tried to watch some of Grubby's games on YouTube.
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Mokhu posted:Where do you guys go for build guides? I'd just hit B and then T.
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For builds just watch progames. The macro in this game is mechanically simple so there's no reason not to copy the early builds and creep patterns that the top pros are doing. There's definitely some corners you can cut to optimize for team games but I don't think this info is collected anywhere...
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Jan 27, 2020 18:29
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Wow I thought the b.net launcher was pretty lame before but they somehow redesigned it to be far shittier? Is there seriously not a downloads page to see what the launcher is currently downloading
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I took another look at more side-by-side model comparisons and something I really noticed was the art team's habit of introducing new colors and generally brightening up units. Dryads had grayish-purple deerparts. Reforged features light brown instead. Dreadlords were primarily black with a white face, probably as a reference to Nosferatu. Now they're extremely pink. It also really bugs me that the Samuro model lost its TC pants. It has even less team coloring than it did before.
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Kith posted:I took another look at more side-by-side model comparisons and something I really noticed was the art team's habit of introducing new colors and generally brightening up units. Dryads had grayish-purple deerparts. Reforged features light brown instead. Dreadlords were primarily black with a white face, probably as a reference to Nosferatu. Now they're extremely pink. It's very... not readable too. I played a round of pyramid escape, and the minigame where you have to count the green skeletons or whatever was stupidly hard with the new models
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Jan 28, 2020 03:07
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Skeletons are the worst redesigned unit imho. Honestly the beta has been kinda fun but... mostly I'm glad it's given TOWA a chance to do their thing, they really gave up on the product partway though. Hopefully the actual launch will have some form of competitive matchmaking.
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The warcraft assets in the Heroes of the Storm Alterac Valley map look great and fit the original art style. I'm not sure why that wasn't the direction for reforged (probably because it was farmed out to some other company).
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Jan 28, 2020 18:32
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The game is available for download now. Patch notes: https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/warcraft3/t/warcraft-iii-reforged-patch-notes/14023 They also put out the video for Arthas v Illidan and uh... it's really bad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x8KRXr0Ilc
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Jan 28, 2020 22:43
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Yep that is pretty, pretty bad. Are there any starcraft-style tug of war customs other than castle fight? Castle fight is... very slow
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Jan 28, 2020 23:07
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Frustrated posted:They also put out the video for Arthas v Illidan and uh... it's really bad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x8KRXr0Ilc Yikes the movements are as lifeless as the blizzard franchises
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Jan 28, 2020 23:17
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Frustrated posted:They also put out the video for Arthas v Illidan and uh... it's really bad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x8KRXr0Ilc It's like RWBY level animation and the models just look off enough to be fan works.
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Jan 28, 2020 23:19
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Frustrated posted:The game is available for download now. holy gently caress that's horrid
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Jan 28, 2020 23:36
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Like I think Hey Arnold had better fight scenes than that
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Jan 28, 2020 23:52
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so, apparently people are saying it's exactly what people thought it would be: just a re-skin with new models. some cutscenes have new camera angles and animations, but it seems like any changes to the campaign basically stop halfway through the first human one.
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Lol doesn't appear to be mmr or a ladder or matchmaking. For an RTS. Nor profiles. Somehow this has less features than 20 years ago. edit: and they made children NPC's unkillable lololol. edit 2, last complaint. Typos everywhere. This is as rushed a job as feared. 1st_Panzer_Div. fucked around with this message at 00:43 on Jan 29, 2020 |
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Jan 29, 2020 00:08
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Grubby, on twitch, is trying to play the campaign. Only the first mission doesn't start, but rather boots him straight to the Defeat screen.
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Jan 29, 2020 00:15
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Maybe one day Grubby will get good enough to beat the first campaign mission
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Doc Walrus posted:Like I think Hey Arnold had better fight scenes than that not an emptyquote
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Jan 29, 2020 01:04
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They redrew the loading maps but didn't make them consistent with WoW. $30 skin pack.
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1st_Panzer_Div. posted:Lol doesn't appear to be mmr or a ladder or matchmaking. For an RTS. Should change the thread title to "Warcraft III: Refunded"
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Frustrated posted:The game is available for download now. The animation is completely lifeless. This was half-assed as gently caress.
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Jan 29, 2020 01:27
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lmao there are specific doodads that tank the frame rate when they're on screen. A fountain and a fire pit, both of them in Human mission 3.
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Jan 29, 2020 01:50
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Fel Orc Firebat is nowhere to be found in the editor, refunding game
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This is whatever the opposite of polished is, holy poo poo The game runs at 144hz but the character models.... I swear they're animating at like 20fps. The game camera moves smoothly, but the character models are super loving stuttery. The UI is awkward at best. Some of the new art is good... but everything just feels very thrown together. YOU CANNOT START AN OFFLINE COMP STOMP MATCH. To play vs AI, you have to reserve an online lobby, which the servers are having issues right now. Awesome work!
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Zaphod42 posted:YOU CANNOT START AN OFFLINE COMP STOMP MATCH. To play vs AI, you have to reserve an online lobby, which the servers are having issues right now. Awesome work! This is absurd.
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I thought it was going to be a bad rush job but this is just depressing
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Trip report: -can't join any custom games -messages aren't going through to chat lobbies -the menus are loving laggy as poo poo -starting the campaign kicks you back to the menu what the gently caress is this, NOTHING works
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So they didn't allow the beta to install on macs, and man does it show. The menu screen is about 10fps on my iMac 5k at 720p with everything on low. If i put it into fullscreen windows the mouse shoots all over the screen and my volume up and down puts the game in the background and takes me to my desktop. Once I load campaign the game runs ok as long as i don't use any of my media keys on the keyboard, or that minimizes the game. I also can't even finishing the first mission without crashing out. I know..mac gaming, but if they didn't want to support the game on mac, don't sell it for mac.
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jfc there isn't even an animation to cover the previous model despawning and the new one popping into place when Medivh transforms. I'm loath to agree with the official forums but someone compared this to the RE2 Remake and it's pretty damning when you view it from that perspective. Rather than doing anything to actually improve or change the game, Blizzard did the bare minimum to make it look pretty and shoved it out the door. What a disappointment. Refunded. 1stGear fucked around with this message at 02:57 on Jan 29, 2020 |
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it's also kind of ugly like when you ever get into a game. the portraits have barely any animation, lip-sync or even character. at first i thought they just didn't animate.
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when you finish a campaign mission you have to click continue campaign as per normal... whereupon it kicks you back to the lobby screen where you have to click continue again... i've noticed that there doesn't appear to be a custom campaign option, either. is that something that's just been cut out?
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1stGear posted:jfc there isn't even an animation to cover the previous model despawning and the new one popping into place when Medivh transforms. Heck, that ending cinematic is worse than the original: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB82pF_64mw and even worse than a fan made one from 3 years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC9RZTD2MaI Khorne fucked around with this message at 03:19 on Jan 29, 2020 |
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Khorne posted:It's not even a graphical upgrade. The new models, portraits, and images are hard to read in-game (Iess player color), have no consistent art style, don't fit into the game world, and for portraits/icons especially are a straight downgrade. apparently a ton of units that used to have multiple attack or spell animations only have one of each now
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So I went to boot up my old copy of WC3 up since the remaster is apparently trash and I had to update to Reforged and now I can’t even play AI stomps anymore because I have to make an online game to do so and...yeah. The remaster is so bad it turned the original game of WC3 into a worse version of itself with all the same bugs and garbage UI. How do you manage to gently caress everything up that I need to figure out how to reinstall and get the game back to a patch that isn’t trash?
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apparently there are changes to the dialogue. every time thrall or his orcs used to say 'grom' they now have it awkwardly cut-and-paste replaced with 'hellscream'
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