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Eminent Domain
Sep 23, 2007



Honestly the decision of her calling and reporting what happened is going to be a personal one, especially if the stress of it all is a concern.

The police are opening up for calls to see how many other people the guy has victimized , what info is out there, and what else might be actionable. It's up to her to weigh how comfortable she is with that and any follow up conversations with the police and that process.

There might be groups/organizations that provide support for sexual assault victims and similar situations in your area. That might be a good sounding board in a confidential setting to discuss how she wants to approach it.

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dwarf74
Sep 2, 2012



Buglord
Well part of her concern is that it didn't rise to a level of "call the cops" at the time, only a "complain to the office and bring me to future appointments" level.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin
This isn't legal advice, but there's something to be said for speaking out when you can.

In a neighborhood facebook group in my town, a woman asked if anyone had advice about a landlord that wouldn't let her mail in rent, and insisted that she drop off checks, and that she wear a bikini.

Some other people chimed in and said to just have a male friend drop off the checks, and that'd always worked.

Some other people then chimed in to say, wait... what?!

Fast forward and a bunch of reporters started asking people to share their stories, turns out this was the tip of the iceberg.

So, my point here is maybe you report his misconduct, the police see two data points and shrug it off, or maybe you and 5 other people report this and the police decide they need to figure out the actual extent of the crimes here and start going through his entire history.

dwarf74
Sep 2, 2012



Buglord
Yeah I just realized I'm a big dummy and my friend's wife is a sex crimes prosecutor a county or two over. Not her case, but she said she'd want to know her story if it was - because if a bunch of other women come forward with similar not-quite-criminal stories it can cast a different light on the case, deals, etc. She's forwarding my wife's info (with her permission) to the people investigating it.

My wife would much rather get a call than make a call. So problem solved.

Thanks goons!

blarzgh
Apr 14, 2009

SNITCHIN' RANDY
Grimey Drawer
Also, it would help her if she decides to jump on the civil suit bandwagon when payouts start happening.

blarzgh
Apr 14, 2009

SNITCHIN' RANDY
Grimey Drawer

bobua posted:

lmao. The day after my post here he's johnny on the spot with email replies. You're here aren't you you son of a bitch.

gently caress JIMBOB, I DONE BEEN FOUND OUT

Lobsterpillar
Feb 4, 2014

blarzgh posted:

gently caress JIMBOB, I DONE BEEN FOUND OUT

Should have specialised in tree law, then you wouldn't have this specific problem.

toplitzin
Jun 13, 2003


Could something like this even be enforceable?


At this point I assume almost everything is legal under "right to work" laws and "you don't have money, but your employer does, we dare you to fight us" but this reeks of some serious bullshit.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...
"Your car sucks" is not a protected class unfortunately. It's likely this could be enforced on the idea of needing to present a certain look to clients.

Eminent Domain
Sep 23, 2007



I'm kind of impressed they put that into writing.

Go talk to an employment attorney.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

Eminent Domain posted:

I'm kind of impressed they put that into writing.

Go talk to an employment attorney.

It's going around on the internet. I don't think it's from his boss.

But if it is, oh boy do I want to hear how this shakes out.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

It looks incredibly fake but what do I know.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

my first thought on reading that is "this employer must be running a get-rich-quick scheme"

Eminent Domain
Sep 23, 2007



Dr. Arbitrary posted:

It's going around on the internet. I don't think it's from his boss.

But if it is, oh boy do I want to hear how this shakes out.

This is what I get for not checking the rest of the internet.

I assume an update will follow somewhere.

Edit: at this point I assume when it comes to things like this that no, people are in fact that dumb, so maybe it is real!

Harold Fjord
Jan 3, 2004
I bet they know a guy at the dealerships they want to recommend

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

c-spam cannot afford



The original reddit post was titled "2005 Camry is too Crappy for this Company" but the poster has since deleted the post and all of their comments.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

2005 camrys have major oil burning problems iirc.

blarzgh
Apr 14, 2009

SNITCHIN' RANDY
Grimey Drawer

euphronius posted:

It looks incredibly fake but what do I know.

same

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
It’s fake. Carry on.

EvenWorseOpinions
Jun 10, 2017
I have a couple of questions from the state of Iowa about wiretapping law, the website recordinglaw.com indicates that it is legal to record a conversation without asking any other party for consent as long as you are a contributing member of that conversation, and my interpretation of the Iowa statute on interception of communications indicates the same. I am currently involved in civil litigation with another party, I have asked my attorney previously about whether recording a conversation could be a viable means to force them to keep to their word, and my attorney indicated that it was legally questionable and he couldn't advise me to do it or not. It seems to me that the statute makes it legal in the context that I would intend to use it, so, questions are;

1: Am I interpreting the statute correctly?

2: Can it be a good idea to record a verbal conversation without the other party's consent for the purpose of holding someone to their word in later civil litigation?

3: Are there some contexts for which #2 might or might not be acceptable?

4: Is recording a conversation in general going to be a questionable or worse idea even if it is legal in my state?

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

EvenWorseOpinions posted:

I have a couple of questions from the state of Iowa about wiretapping law, the website recordinglaw.com indicates that it is legal to record a conversation without asking any other party for consent as long as you are a contributing member of that conversation, and my interpretation of the Iowa statute on interception of communications indicates the same. I am currently involved in civil litigation with another party, I have asked my attorney previously about whether recording a conversation could be a viable means to force them to keep to their word, and my attorney indicated that it was legally questionable and he couldn't advise me to do it or not. It seems to me that the statute makes it legal in the context that I would intend to use it, so, questions are;

1: Am I interpreting the statute correctly?

2: Can it be a good idea to record a verbal conversation without the other party's consent for the purpose of holding someone to their word in later civil litigation?

3: Are there some contexts for which #2 might or might not be acceptable?

4: Is recording a conversation in general going to be a questionable or worse idea even if it is legal in my state?

Your loving lawyer, that you loving pay to answer your loving legal questions, loving told you not to loving do it, you loving idiot.

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


I say go for it

EvenWorseOpinions
Jun 10, 2017

FrozenVent posted:

Your loving lawyer, that you loving pay to answer your loving legal questions, loving told you not to loving do it, you loving idiot.

Well, I didn't really touch on it in my other post, part of why I am seeking additional advice is that the way he phrased it was that he couldn't advise me to either do it or not, he made another comment about it that seemed to indicated he thought it might potentially be helpful, and I question if he was familiar with wiretapping laws (which is not the field he focuses his practice on) since it appears totally legal in my state, whether or not it's a good idea. I have some doubts about his general competency and how much effort he is putting into my case, but I also am not competent enough with legal things to know if I am at all justified or being an idiot.

After all that added, I am asking for advice to keep myself from doing stupid things, so if that's still your advice I am going to take it into strong consideration


Bad Munki posted:

I say go for it

Well I guess that settles it wiretapping everything

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!
Listen to your lawyer dude.

So you understand: in the US some states are what’s commonly known as “two party” states. That means no recording conversations unless everyone in the conversation consents.

Other states (like Iowa) are “single party” states. If anyone in the conversation consents, the conversation can be recorded for legal reasons. THAT DOES NOT MEAN THE CONVERSATION CAN BE RECORDED FOR ANY REASON. Making someone “keep their word” could mean all kinds of illegal poo poo that nobody on this website can reasonably talk about with you.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
Also “dealing with law for non lawyers, part one chapter one” says:

Shut the gently caress up and let the lawyer talk to:
—the police
—the people you’re suing
—the people who are suing you
—the people you might sue or be sued by

EvenWorseOpinions
Jun 10, 2017
Those are all compelling arguments but I think I'm gonna record conversations anyways

Just kidding, thank you for the advice and explanation

Modus Pwnens
Dec 29, 2004
Seems to me like it's legal to record in Iowa but not legal to ask someone else to do it when you're not a party to the conversation, so maybe your lawyer doesn't want to come off as asking you to for their own benefit.

Anyway my point is, congrats on the felony, Munki!

mercenarynuker
Sep 10, 2008

So if you record the convo in Iowa on your own initiative, peachy keen. Does that mean it could be admissible in Iowa courts? What happens if the person you are talking to is in a 2 party consent state? Would that mean the same recording would be inadmissible there? Could THEY record YOU by virtue of the fact you're in a 1 party state?

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


Modus Pwnens posted:

Anyway my point is, congrats on the felony, Munki!

Sue me

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:
What if two people both accidentally left a recorder on and had a conversation. Does that mean they both unwittingly committed a crime?

Is butt dialing a crime? My rear end is in so much trouble.

Devor
Nov 30, 2004
Lurking more.

Outrail posted:

Is butt dialing a crime? My rear end is in so much trouble.

Your rear end lacks the mens rea

Nice piece of fish
Jan 29, 2008

Ultra Carp

Devor posted:

Your rear end lacks the mens rea

Unless all it requires is negligence. Cause that rear end is clearly a hazard

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

FrozenVent posted:

Your loving lawyer, that you loving pay to answer your loving legal questions, loving told you not to loving do it, you loving idiot.




e: new thread title

wizzardstaff
Apr 6, 2018

Zorch! Splat! Pow!

Devor posted:

Your rear end lacks the mens rea

if my rear end is not a mens rear then what is it???

bird with big dick
Oct 21, 2015

Volmarias posted:

"Your car sucks" is not a protected class unfortunately.

Nor should it be. If anything it should be the opposite.

bird with big dick
Oct 21, 2015

Will question:

Is it possible for a couple to write up a will that it's legally impossible to change after one of them dies? My dad remarried a younger/healthier woman like 15 years ago and IIRC told everyone that they wrote up a will such that everything got split 50/50 between her kids and his kids when the second of them died and it couldn't be changed so that, e.g., if he died a year later she couldn't stiff his kids on the estate. This was a fairly reasonable thing to consider given my father's propensity for smoking Marlboro reds, drinking straight tequila, and eating lard products but the odds have been defied and he's still truckin along at 78 and she died from cancer 8 years ago.

But even if it's true it also seems maybe pointless unless they wrote something in that prevented gifting the estate a way a chunk at a time over a decade? I dunno.

I suspect that none of it was true and he just told people this (either unprompted or because one of my sisters flat out told him he should consider the possibility) to keep anyone from hassling him.

The reason it came up is because apparently he told one of my sisters that he was considering revising his will so that it wasn't split 50/50 anymore because he has a decent pension so his net worth is still increasing and he doesn't really see the need to give her kids half of money that he "earned" 10 years after she passed. I'd ask him but tbh we don't talk that much, he's not quite as sharp as he used to be so he might not even really remember the actual details, plus he's always been the type to "spin yarns" i.e. make poo poo up for no reason.

ulmont
Sep 15, 2010

IF I EVER MISS VOTING IN AN ELECTION (EVEN AMERICAN IDOL) ,OR HAVE UNPAID PARKING TICKETS, PLEASE TAKE AWAY MY FRANCHISE

bird with big dick posted:

Is it possible for a couple to write up a will that it's legally impossible to change after one of them dies?

1. No, although one law professor has suggested maybe we should allow that: https://www.law.virginia.edu/system/files/faculty/hein/2016/JohnsonA_53%20U.%20Louisville%20L.%20Rev.%20393%20.pdf It would be the functional equivalent of Congress passing a law with a "and the next Congress can't change this" clause.

2. There are ways to get to the same result by putting all your poo poo in an irrevocable trust.

therobit
Aug 19, 2008

I've been tryin' to speak with you for a long time

bird with big dick posted:

Nor should it be. If anything it should be the opposite.

Yeah, at my small business we require employees own a 1987 Pontiac Firebird, or a 1969 Dodge Daytona if in management. If they don't want to own an awesome car, why the gently caress would we hire them in the first place? They won't be a good culture fit.

We are an equal opportunity employer, and we also encourage/require our staff to adopt culturally appropriate hairstyles. Which means a mullet if you're white or Hispanic, no exceptions. If you aren't white or Hispanic and feel that a mullet doesn't look cool enough on you or isn't feasible given your hair type, you can have any hairstyle you want as long as a panel of HR employees deems it sufficiently rad looking blowing in the wind with the T top down.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009


bird with big dick posted:

Will question:

Is it possible for a couple to write up a will that it's legally impossible to change after one of them dies?

Wills are personal only

They can be changed after death

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owlhawk911
Nov 8, 2019

come chill with me, in byob

therobit posted:

Yeah, at my small business we require employees own a 1987 Pontiac Firebird, or a 1969 Dodge Daytona if in management. If they don't want to own an awesome car, why the gently caress would we hire them in the first place? They won't be a good culture fit.

We are an equal opportunity employer, and we also encourage/require our staff to adopt culturally appropriate hairstyles. Which means a mullet if you're white or Hispanic, no exceptions. If you aren't white or Hispanic and feel that a mullet doesn't look cool enough on you or isn't feasible given your hair type, you can have any hairstyle you want as long as a panel of HR employees deems it sufficiently rad looking blowing in the wind with the T top down.

are you hiring? would an iroc-z be acceptable if my mullet is rad enough?

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