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Djarum posted:Roberts can rule that privilege but that still doesn't mean anything will happen. The DOJ isn't going to do anything and there is no mechanism in place to force them to do anything otherwise. They will vote to not convict Trump citing "lack of evidence". Roberts and the GOP have their cover. The chuds will laugh at "owning the libs". It's angels on pinheads because Collins would much rather go down in the General and continue to swim in the Republican pond than get ostricized, targeted by red hat rage and then primaried by some tech millionaire that cosplays country by raising exclusively white alpacas. They have to keep kissing Roberts' rear end though. If Trump can't keep his house in order there's no way he's going to do the dirty work for him.
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Jan 25, 2020 23:07
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Scooter_McCabe posted:Not every single Trumper is a die hard follower. There will be those that become disillusioned if he hides behind the senate and doesn't respond with all the sound and fury he promised on twitter. Those people may not be convinced to vote Democrat, but they may just opt out of voting in the next election. This will also galvanize everyone just left of center to get out and vote. The GOP has run off the myth the country is more conservative than it is because Hilary was such an awful candidate: she assumed the presidency was her's, she didn't campaign in the blue wall states to ensure the wall remained, she was already disliked and the debacle with Bernie buried her. 2016 wasn't an embrace of conservatism it was a middle finger to the Clinton's and Hilary especially. The next candidate isn't saddled with her baggage, plus Florida will be a hilarious if the Democrats get all the ex-convicts to register to vote since they can do that now. Oh yeah that reminds me last election when Hilary ran out of funds for her get out and vote initiatives, she didn't plunk more money down to keep it going, she stopped and that lack of effort didn't help. I agree with a lot of what you said. Hillary was a losing candidate from the moment she entered the race again and she did nothing to change that. There was a lot of smugness in the DNC that showed on election night. I will disagree on not every Trumper isn't a die hard follower. With everything that he has done and said and his poll numbers have barely moved seems to show that he can do little to lose their support. He would spin it as being triumphant in stopping the "Impeachment Hoax". The numbers do look better for the Democrats this election. The fluke of winning PA will likely not happen again. The GOP has to win FL, NC, WI and AZ which would be steep. The big thing will be getting people to the polls. I am honestly surprised that there isn't a group that is mobilizing driving people to polling centers nationwide yet.
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I keep having this sinking feeling that not only will trump be acquitted and become even more insufferable than ever. He will also win reelection but not the popular vote (which he will in fact lie about in an enraging fashion). The GOP will hold the senate and expand their majority. I really hate to be a debbie downer but drat I am sick of getting poo poo on.
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ManBoyChef posted:I keep having this sinking feeling that not only will trump be acquitted and become even more insufferable than ever. He will also win reelection but not the popular vote (which he will in fact lie about in an enraging fashion). The GOP will hold the senate and expand their majority. I really hate to be a debbie downer but drat I am sick of getting poo poo on. Public sentiment is sufficiently against him enough that I expect unprecedented turnout this November.
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ManBoyChef posted:I keep having this sinking feeling that not only will trump be acquitted and become even more insufferable than ever. He will also win reelection but not the popular vote (which he will in fact lie about in an enraging fashion). The GOP will hold the senate and expand their majority. I really hate to be a debbie downer but drat I am sick of getting poo poo on. ehh. he will brag and become more insufferable but that won't help him outside the base. every gently caress up/rear end in a top hat move/spiteful deed is more red meat to dems/libs/lefties/indies/etc to turn out in mass. if the last 2 elections were red waves or trump learned from his mistakes, id be worried. right now i am not. PA will probably go blue as will other states. bernie/warren/biden/snoopy/whover wins the primary is going to campaign to hell and back in the places clinton hosed up.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:ehh. he will brag and become more insufferable but that won't help him outside the base. every gently caress up/rear end in a top hat move/spiteful deed is more red meat to dems/libs/lefties/indies/etc to turn out in mass. if the last 2 elections were red waves or trump learned from his mistakes, id be worried. right now i am not. PA will probably go blue as will other states. bernie/warren/biden/snoopy/whover wins the primary is going to campaign to hell and back in the places clinton hosed up. That is the big thing. PA absolutely needs to swing back blue, which it likely will. Then the Democrats only need to worry about winning one of WI, NC, AZ. It is a much easier path to victory. Trump needs to win FL and the other three. That is also saying that he does nothing insane between now and November. He already touched a third rail which is Social Security and immediately tried to walk it back. That will come back haunt him in the general. Old people might love him but they love social security more.
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Framboise posted:What's worse is that they don't even need to appeal to anyone anyway. Republicans already made their decision long before the trial so they're trying to get a fast acquittal so Donny gets to jerk off all over the microphone like the big big boy he is at the state of the union address and can cry over how unfair the Democrats have been and how America decided he was right and how he plans to maintain his obvious corruption for 4 more years-- maybe even more corrupt and more obvious because clearly, America decided that it approves. It's this all the way down. I mean DOWN. Trump's going to come out of this saying "see? They tried everything and I am still MAGAing. Witch Hunt! MAGA!" I'm glad he was impeached and I know he's a criminal who deserves to rot but I'm worried about people who are disengaged but who still vote will be all "welp, he was found innocent so whatever". An alarming percentage of the voting populace don't stay informed, often due to being overworked and unable, and republicans count on it by granting them the "freedom " to work 60 hour weeks across two jobs and "cutting their taxes"
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ManBoyChef posted:I keep having this sinking feeling that not only will trump be acquitted and become even more insufferable than ever. He will also win reelection but not the popular vote (which he will in fact lie about in an enraging fashion). The GOP will hold the senate and expand their majority. I really hate to be a debbie downer but drat I am sick of getting poo poo on. No point in this kind of thinking buddy. Que sera sera
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Djarum posted:That is the big thing. PA absolutely needs to swing back blue, which it likely will. Then the Democrats only need to worry about winning one of WI, NC, AZ. It is a much easier path to victory. Trump needs to win FL and the other three. we both know he will do dumb insane poo poo. he will defiently try to cheat again. he may go after Social security and he may try a war again at some point. who knows. if trump were smart he would have never done any of this dumb poo poo and would probably be well liked and would have divided the DNC by actually being a populist or some other type deal. PA will probably go blue. its going blue state and local level already.
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Scooter_McCabe posted:Not every single Trumper is a die hard follower. There will be those that become disillusioned if he hides behind the senate and doesn't respond with all the sound and fury he promised on twitter. Those people may not be convinced to vote Democrat, but they may just opt out of voting in the next election. This will also galvanize everyone just left of center to get out and vote. The GOP has run off the myth the country is more conservative than it is because Hilary was such an awful candidate: she assumed the presidency was her's, she didn't campaign in the blue wall states to ensure the wall remained, she was already disliked and the debacle with Bernie buried her. 2016 wasn't an embrace of conservatism it was a middle finger to the Clinton's and Hilary especially. The next candidate isn't saddled with her baggage, plus Florida will be a hilarious if the Democrats get all the ex-convicts to register to vote since they can do that now. Oh yeah that reminds me last election when Hilary ran out of funds for her get out and vote initiatives, she didn't plunk more money down to keep it going, she stopped and that lack of effort didn't help. Florida is red now. We just accept this.
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eke out posted:As a reminder, when the White House finishes, the next step is 16 hours (two days) of alternating questions submitted by both sides. Questions directed at and answered by whom?
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Dapper_Swindler posted:we both know he will do dumb insane poo poo. he will defiently try to cheat again. he may go after Social security and he may try a war again at some point. who knows. if trump were smart he would have never done any of this dumb poo poo and would probably be well liked and would have divided the DNC by actually being a populist or some other type deal. PA will probably go blue. its going blue state and local level already. Well his Presidency immediately started off bad. Honestly I thought the failure of the repeal of Obamacare would have sunk him. I mean he has no legislative or policy win in three years now. Economically the country looks good on paper but it has been hot shot for the last three years and the cracks are getting harder to ignore. I mean he is still shouting his greatest hits at his “rallies” and the only new thing is some insane rant about toilets? I can’t believe how his supporters aren’t goofed on by average people everywhere.
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What are you talking about he’s done more than any other president in history
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Djarum posted:Well his Presidency immediately started off bad. Honestly I thought the failure of the repeal of Obamacare would have sunk him. I mean he has no legislative or policy win in three years now. Economically the country looks good on paper but it has been hot shot for the last three years and the cracks are getting harder to ignore. yeah. he also lost the house. he can't do poo poo legislatively now. if he tries to kill Social security or health care. it won't work and it will only gently caress him.
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Phil Moscowitz posted:What are you talking about he’s done more than any other president in history He's done more than any other president in history and come through on all his campaign promises and also he should be allowed a third term because the first one shouldn't count because the Democrats wouldn't get him get anything done.  e: Also, I meant to reply to this earlier: eke out posted:nah dude, I see what you mean but this is the most significant vote of the biggest political spectacle in decades On a normal Friday, I'd agree with you, but the Superbowl's next weekend and is going to dominate the attention of a huge portion of the country. It's not outside the realm of possibility that Republicans are counting on football to diminish attention paid to the witness vote. SneezeOfTheDecade fucked around with this message at 00:37 on Jan 26, 2020 |
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HootTheOwl posted:Florida is red now. We just accept this. This. Any map where Florida isn't red is a joke. We win without them or we don't win.
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BiggerBoat posted:Questions directed at and answered by whom? Senators submit questions to be asked (by John Roberts) to whichever side they want, and that side gets to answer them HootTheOwl posted:Florida is red now. We just accept this. please, this is not the thread to post your 2020 maps or argue about what's going what color
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SneezeOfTheDecade posted:On a normal Friday, I'd agree with you, but the Superbowl's next weekend and is going to dominate the attention of a huge portion of the country. It's not outside the realm of possibility that Republicans are counting on football to diminish attention paid to the witness vote. I didn't even realize that the SuperBowl is next weekend. I assume they want it to be over before the SOTU as well so Trump can gloat.
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Djarum posted:I didn't even realize that the SuperBowl is next weekend.
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Djarum posted:I didn't even realize that the SuperBowl is next weekend. I assume they want it to be over before the SOTU as well so Trump can gloat. I don't know what teams are playing (and don't care), but I want them to all kneel for the anthem just to really send a message to chuds
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Djarum posted:I didn't even realize that the SuperBowl is next weekend. I assume they want it to be over before the SOTU as well so Trump can gloat. The trial will end that very morning. It may even end 5 minutes before the SOTU so the senators can acquit Trump and the immediately walk next door.
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Framboise posted:I don't know what teams are playing (and don't care), but I want them to all kneel for the anthem just to really send a message to chuds San Francisco and Kansas City. The commercials will suck, the game will be low scoring, and the only highlight will be Puppy Bowl :3
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Did anyone watch the whole thing? In an hour of Trump complaining about a person getting in the way of his crimes, there has to be more admission of crimes.
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KillHour posted:Did anyone watch the whole thing? In an hour of Trump complaining about a person getting in the way of his crimes, there has to be more admission of crimes. The entire thing takes place one year before Job Biden announces his intent to run for President. All it can prove is policy difference.
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The Human Crouton posted:The entire thing takes place one year before Job Biden announces his intent to run for President. All it can prove is policy difference. Everyone knew Biden was going to run
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Scooter_McCabe posted:San Francisco and Kansas City. The commercials will suck, the game will be low scoring, and the only highlight will be Puppy Bowl :3 I will not stand for this Kitten Bowl erasure 
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KillHour posted:Did anyone watch the whole thing? In an hour of Trump complaining about a person getting in the way of his crimes, there has to be more admission of crimes. there's this https://twitter.com/WalkerBragman/status/1221265917541339137
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The Glumslinger posted:Everyone knew Biden was going to run Future crime. Cool.
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wow cool double post thanks internet
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wow cool triple post
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Scooter_McCabe posted:San Francisco and Kansas City. The commercials will suck, the game will be low scoring, and the only highlight will be Puppy Bowl :3 I put the Clydesdale Cam on in a window while doing other computer stuff, and occasionally glance over at the tv.
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mistaya posted:This. Any map where Florida isn't red is a joke. We win without them or we don't win. Agreed. I'm from Florida and he's still massively popular, even in urban areas. Lots of FYGM poo poo down here, plus the Cuban demographic, the poor racist white demo, no unions at all, the olds that flood here every winter from hellholes like Ohio, weird libertarians, gun nuts, decades of state control by Republicans, and a completely useless democratic machine (Alex Sink? Really? The Broward County Election Office). We might have had a chance when re-enfranchisement of felons, but they've slow rolled that so bad and now the same people who voted for the amendment are against it because reasons. And the legalizing weed amendment didn't get enough signatures, like wtf. Edit- sorry for off topic in the impeachment thread but gently caress I hate Florida politics
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ManBoyChef posted:I keep having this sinking feeling that not only will trump be acquitted and become even more insufferable than ever. He will also win reelection but not the popular vote (which he will in fact lie about in an enraging fashion). The GOP will hold the senate and expand their majority. I really hate to be a debbie downer but drat I am sick of getting poo poo on. is this "sinking feeling" called reality of our hellworld?
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ummel posted:Agreed. I'm from Florida and he's still massively popular, even in urban areas. Lots of FYGM poo poo down here, plus the Cuban demographic, the poor racist white demo, no unions at all, the olds that flood here every winter from hellholes like Ohio, weird libertarians, gun nuts, decades of state control by Republicans, and a completely useless democratic machine (Alex Sink? Really? The Broward County Election Office). I live in NE FL (CHUD Country) and the bolded part is the weirdest thing to me. There are way more registered democrats in the state but the party itself might as well not even exist.
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Again, please stop posting about Florida 2020 in the impeachment thread. eke out fucked around with this message at 16:12 on Jan 26, 2020 |
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FilthyImp posted:President Deals sounds like a bad mobster movie don and the GOP is like "who could possibly know what he meant by "This Biden thing needs to be fixed. I want him gone. Kaput, see?" "Look Jake, a fish could be sleeping anywhere, so I'd hardly call that a threat"
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FilthyImp posted:President Deals sounds like a bad mobster movie don and the GOP is like "who could possibly know what he meant by "This Biden thing needs to be fixed. I want him gone. Kaput, see?" I prefer the "just because h said I want that guy deader than the deadest dead person in a room full of dead people doesn't mean he really felt that way in his heart" excuse.
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