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Zotix
Aug 14, 2011



Apparently Shantou is going into lockdown tomorrow with another city. Shantou is like 800km from Wuhan, and has only had like 2 cases thus far(I haven't been able to find confirmation of this). What the actual gently caress is going on.



A chart of international infections.





Overall cases by date:





Buckle your pantalones

Zotix fucked around with this message at 05:03 on Jan 26, 2020

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Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010
There are no known infections in Africa or India, right?

That seems doubtful to me given the volume of traffic between China and them. If it gets a foot hold in either of those two, there ain't no going back. This isn't like Ebola where blood is pouring from places it shouldn't and it's obvious you're very sick. It starts off with normal cold symptoms.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Charlz Guybon posted:

There are no known infections in Africa or India, right?

That seems doubtful to me given the volume of traffic between China and them. If it gets a foot hold in either of those two, there ain't no going back. This isn't like Ebola where blood is pouring from places it shouldn't and it's obvious you're very sick. It starts off with normal cold symptoms.

I think the issue is the incubation period seems to be pretty long (10-14 days last I heard) so we are still pretty early to start seeing cases in some of these places.

LanceHunter
Nov 12, 2016

Beautiful People Club


Zotix posted:

Apparently Shantou is going into lockdown tomorrow with another city. Shantou is like 800km from Wuhan, and has only had like 2 cases thus far(I haven't been able to find confirmation of this). What the actual gently caress is going on.

This is one of those cases where it's difficult to determine if things actually warrant this response or if the PRC is just massively over-reacting/using this as an excuse to accomplish some other political agenda.

HellOnEarth
Nov 7, 2005

Now that's good jerky!

Fojar38 posted:

Unless you've snuck into any Sunnybrook quarantine wards in the past 24 hours I'd say you are probably safe from this virus and can return your attention to the ten thousand other pathogens you're vulnerable to that aren't in the news

Fojar, in all the years of seeing your posts, I can honestly say this might be the most helpful thing you've ever said.

Aoi
Sep 12, 2017

Perpetually a Pain.

HellOnEarth posted:

Fojar, in all the years of seeing your posts, I can honestly say this might be the most helpful thing you've ever said.

Speaking as another immunocompromised person in this thread (and Canada), my advice would simply be to take all the reasonable precautions you can, wash your hands religiously (even if you aren't otherwise), especially every chance you get while outside, touch as few surfaces outside your home as possible, and if it comes down to it, maybe extend these precautions to your food shopping, buying only sealed food products (that you can wipe down before opening/handling), and so forth, and that last bit there is actually more paranoid than I'd advise, really.

I have a medical appointment at a major hospital on february third, so...looking forward to that, myself.

i am harry
Oct 14, 2003

Stopped off on the way home at my local Asian supermarket and about 5min in someone coughed and suddenly I remembered this thing could be anywhere now and is already possibly in a hospital 30miles away


https://www.cpr.org/2020/01/24/colorado-has-its-first-potential-case-of-the-wuhan-coronavirus-cdphe-says/

HellOnEarth
Nov 7, 2005

Now that's good jerky!

EimiYoshikawa posted:

Speaking as another immunocompromised person in this thread (and Canada), my advice would simply be to take all the reasonable precautions you can, wash your hands religiously (even if you aren't otherwise), especially every chance you get while outside, touch as few surfaces outside your home as possible, and if it comes down to it, maybe extend these precautions to your food shopping, buying only sealed food products (that you can wipe down before opening/handling), and so forth, and that last bit there is actually more paranoid than I'd advise, really.


I literally did get clorox wipes and wipe down all my purchases from the store today, so I'm way ahead of you.

EimiYoshikawa posted:

I have a medical appointment at a major hospital on february third, so...looking forward to that, myself.
Steal some masks while you're there.

Zotix
Aug 14, 2011



I'm nervous this upcoming week because I work in downtown, and I normally drive to a train station and take the train since my job pays for unlimited train rides monthly. On the weekends I've been parking downtown since it's only $6/d as opposed to $20/d normally. The trains first stop is the airport, and goes all the way downtown so a ton of international visitors catch ride the train to downtown and stay at hotels and attend conventions downtown. I'm considering Monday to figure out a different solution, because uhhh those trains are usually loving awful for bacteria, and each day this thing has potential to be anywhere.

Zotix fucked around with this message at 05:51 on Jan 26, 2020

LibCrusher
Jan 6, 2019

by Fluffdaddy

Zotix posted:

I'm nervous this upcoming week because I work in downtown, and I normally drive to a train station and take the train since my job pays for unlimited train rides monthly. On the weekends I've been parking downtown since it's only $6/d as opposed to $20/d normally. The trains first stop is the airport, and goes all the way downtown so a ton of international visitors catch ride the train to downtown and stay at hotels and attend conventions downtown. I'm considering Monday to figure out a different solution, because uhhh those trains are usually loving awful for bacteria, and each day this thing has potential to be anywhere.

This is the poo poo that causes the real damage in a pandemic situation. People get freaked out and stop doing stuff so the economy tanks.

Breh you’re more likely to be gunned down in the street by a lunatic or a cop than you are to catch the Fluhan. Chill and be normal.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

LibCrusher posted:

This is the poo poo that causes the real damage in a pandemic situation. People get freaked out and stop doing stuff so the economy tanks.

Breh you’re more likely to be gunned down in the street by a lunatic or a cop than you are to catch the Fluhan. Chill and be normal.

Counter point.

Sorry you’ll be dead in two weeks.

Holyshoot
May 6, 2010
I've been working with 2 pocket PC sticks from China for a few weeks. I'm hosed aren't I. RIP the US.

LibCrusher
Jan 6, 2019

by Fluffdaddy

MarcusSA posted:

Counter point.

Sorry you’ll be dead in two weeks.

Maybe if a cop sees me yeah.

i am harry
Oct 14, 2003

I feel like, statistically, as we look at how many people leaving Wuhan have ended up in different countries and possibly positive for the virus, there’s no way the infection numbers are only in the thousands...there must be thousands of people infected who cannot afford to fly out of Wuhan, or have no reason to leave, for every one person who can and is also infected.

Toys For Ass Bum
Feb 1, 2015



I'm pretty sure that ain't a genuine 3M protective coverall

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

i am harry posted:

I feel like, statistically, as we look at how many people leaving Wuhan have ended up in different countries and possibly positive for the virus, there’s no way the infection numbers are only in the thousands...there must be thousands of people infected who cannot afford to fly out of Wuhan, or have no reason to leave, for every one person who can and is also infected.

The report I linked last night said that only 5% of cases have actually been identified.

Add to the fact that the poor dont generally go to the hospital the number is most likely significantly higher.

60,000-70,000

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something

Zotix posted:

A chart of international infections.



Buckle your pantalones

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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HellOnEarth posted:

Fojar, in all the years of seeing your posts, I can honestly say this might be the most helpful thing you've ever said.

Even I have my moments

titty fat pizza
Jan 1, 2013
What the gently caress is going on with 2020? It is only January and we have already had a World War 3 scare and now a humanity ending virus scare.

i am harry
Oct 14, 2003

MarcusSA posted:

The report I linked last night said that only 5% of cases have actually been identified.

Add to the fact that the poor dont generally go to the hospital the number is most likely significantly higher.

60,000-70,000

It has to be right? The chances that 1200 people in a city of 11million get infected and then 40 of them depart for all corners of the globe is absurd!

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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titty fat pizza posted:

What the gently caress is going on with 2020? It is only January and we have already had a World War 3 scare and now a humanity ending virus scare.

twitter combined with the overwhelming dominance of the "24/7 crisis" narrative that that started in 2016 in the media

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

i am harry posted:

It has to be right? The chances that 1200 people in a city of 11million get infected and then 40 of them depart for all corners of the globe is absurd!

While its not impossible it’s statistically unlikely that is the case.

We have a few more days before we see the real impact if non Chinese travelers start to show symptoms.

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

titty fat pizza posted:

What the gently caress is going on with 2020? It is only January and we have already had a World War 3 scare and now a humanity ending virus scare.

Trumps gonna win too

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Burt Sexual posted:

Trumps gonna win too

If the dems don’t get their poo poo together this is probably true.

Welcome to hell world.

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
I would like to apologise to the thread for being a dipshit 6 hours ago

Fever at 101. I live feet from SFO, lol

Sab0921
Aug 2, 2004

This for my justices slingin' thangs, rib breakin' kings / Truck, necklace, robe, gavel and things / For the solicitors seein' them dissents spin and grin / That robe with the lace trim that win.

i am harry posted:

It has to be right? The chances that 1200 people in a city of 11million get infected and then 40 of them depart for all corners of the globe is absurd!

This is exactly what happened with SARS. A doctor treating victims went to Hong Kong for one night, stayed in a hotel and infected everyone on his floor who then spread it across the world.

If a super spreader was at the Wuhan Airport, this makes sense. I could also be in denial of how bad it is and trying to rationalize best case scenarios idk.

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

bob dobbs is dead posted:

I would like to apologise to the thread for being a dipshit 6 hours ago

Fever at 101. I live feet from SFO, lol

Lol your fine we all have fevers right now

lobotomy molo
May 7, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Burt Sexual posted:

Lol your fine we all have fevers right now

uh oh :whitewater:

Turrurrurrurrrrrrr
Dec 22, 2018

I hope this is "battle" enough for you, friend.

This guy (from European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control, ecdc.europa.eu, https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Pasi_Penttinen) gave an interview to Finnish media stating that based on the information received on the first treated patients in China we're looking at a reasonably severe disease. Whatever that means. Anyway, they had a look at the documented symptoms of the first 40 victims of the 2019-nCoV admitted to hospitals in China.

Turrurrurrurrrrrrr fucked around with this message at 07:43 on Jan 26, 2020

Elderbean
Jun 10, 2013


Yeah, those SARS breakdowns where you see how one guy coughing and vomiting in his hotel room infected a bunch of people on the floor are scary poo poo. It's crazy how infectious this stuff can get.

Elderbean fucked around with this message at 07:32 on Jan 26, 2020

Chinatown
Sep 11, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
Fun Shoe

Burt Sexual posted:

Trumps gonna win too

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel
Its hard to overstate how much of a giant constant super overcrowded clusterfuck the entire public transportation system of China is during CNY.

Hundreds of millions of people all travel from wherever they moved to work back to wherever they are from, at the same time, then travel back.

Its not uncommon for people to spend 18 hours packed together in standing-room-only trains, for more than one day in a row, with different people on different days, and people constantly getting on and off to go some other direction for 18 hours.

Like 1/4 of the people in China all zig zag back and forth across the country via overcrowded packed-in trains busses and planes during these weeks.

Anything to do with transport is 200% overcrowded 24 hours a day with people going every possible different place at once.

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

Sab0921 posted:

This is exactly what happened with SARS. A doctor treating victims went to Hong Kong for one night, stayed in a hotel and infected everyone on his floor who then spread it across the world.

If a super spreader was at the Wuhan Airport, this makes sense. I could also be in denial of how bad it is and trying to rationalize best case scenarios idk.

As a general rule I assume worst case scenarios, plan for that to happen and then try to wander about assuming it'll be mostly not terrible. Glad I don't work in food service anymore.

Hail Satan.

BeefThief
Aug 8, 2007

are they ever gonna find the guy who hosed the snake and started this whole fiasco?

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

hakimashou posted:

Its hard to overstate how much of a giant constant super overcrowded clusterfuck the entire public transportation system of China is during CNY.

Hundreds of millions of people all travel from wherever they moved to work back to wherever they are from, at the same time, then travel back.

Its not uncommon for people to spend 18 hours packed together in standing-room-only trains, for more than one day in a row, with different people on different days, and people constantly getting on and off to go some other direction for 18 hours.

Like 1/4 of the people in China all zig zag back and forth across the country via overcrowded packed-in trains busses and planes during these weeks.

Anything to do with transport is 200% overcrowded 24 hours a day with people going every possible different place at once.

Wtf

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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I hear that one of the symptoms of Wuhan Flu is that you feel healthy

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
Yeah, the timing couldn't have been worse. It's the largest human migration

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon

titty fat pizza posted:

What the gently caress is going on with 2020? It is only January and we have already had a World War 3 scare and now a humanity ending virus scare.

Just wait till you hear about the giant meteorite heading for Earth bud

BeefThief
Aug 8, 2007

lunar new year?

more like lunar NO year

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Lazyhound
Mar 1, 2004

A squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous—got me?

titty fat pizza posted:

What the gently caress is going on with 2020? It is only January and we have already had a World War 3 scare and now a humanity ending virus scare.

“UFOs are real” didn’t get the engagement numbers they wanted last year so they’re amping things up for the sequel.

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