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zenguitarman posted:What's it like to die of the flu, sounds like a lovely way to go
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zenguitarman posted:What's it like to die of the flu, sounds like a lovely way to go Imagine your lungs filling up with fluid which become bubbles. Feels like drowning.
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Jan 26, 2020 22:23
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Colonel Cancer posted:So far yes but it might mutate and make you poo poo out your kidneys while bleeding from every orifice and then you'll be hosed So could the flu but somehow you're not constantly afraid of that.
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Jan 26, 2020 22:25
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CassandraZara posted:So could the flu but somehow you're not constantly afraid of that. Yeah pretty much. I miss WW3 it was a much better catastrophe all around 
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Jan 26, 2020 22:39
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Enfys posted:"There is a possibility that it is contagious during incubation" would be much different than "it is contagious during incubation". The Chinese director of their national health commission says “There have been mild cases where observation has shown that the patients were contagious during the incubation period. The incubation period is around 10 days. The shortest time before the disease’s onset was one day. The longest was 14 days. This is very different from SARS.”
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Jan 26, 2020 22:42
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I highly suspect Wuhan's hospital system is breaking down, as is completely expected in a turbocrisis like this There was also that 22yo dude who spent like 20 days in the ICU and recovered, but the first like week was in an insanely painful state
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Jan 26, 2020 22:44
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bob dobbs is dead posted:I highly suspect Wuhan's hospital system is breaking down, as is completely expected in a turbocrisis like this yeah there's no way they have enough beds. not too mention a lot of healthcare professionals are gonna be catching the virus. people are being like, oh no problem if you are young but recovering on a ventilator is a bad time, by now there's not going to be enough ventilators, and even those who recover could have permanent lung damage
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Jan 26, 2020 22:51
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Colonel Cancer posted:Yeah pretty much. I miss WW3 it was a much better catastrophe all around https://twitter.com/Joyce_Karam/status/1221538223777886214 (This is probably not that significant, sounds like rocket attacks are frequent in Iraq) https://twitter.com/GebeilyM/status/1221544730061889538 poty fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Jan 26, 2020 |
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Jan 26, 2020 22:51
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Good good all is going according to plan
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Jan 26, 2020 22:53
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zenguitarman posted:What's it like to die of the flu, sounds like a lovely way to go I caught the swine flue overseas a decade ago and spent two weeks in a quarantine. I wanted to die. It was awful. When I finally got better I had lost so much weight my wristwatch was two sizes too big for me.
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Jan 26, 2020 22:55
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spacetoaster posted:
Time for a new goon weight loss thread!
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Jan 26, 2020 22:56
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power word- Jeb! posted:yeah there's no way they have enough beds. not too mention a lot of healthcare professionals are gonna be catching the virus. This. The nonchalant attitude toward spending 2-3 weeks in an ICU is astounding,especially when it looks like the rate of infection could rapidly fill up local ICUs and leave a bunch of people up poo poo creek
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Jan 26, 2020 23:04
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Well its nice of the CCP to ban wild animal sales until the flu is over. So once its over we can go back to trying to discover every virus's natural reservoir.
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Jan 26, 2020 23:05
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Wheezer posted:Looking at CDC data, influenza kills 2 out of 100,000. Wuhan has a rough population of 11 million and less than 100 dead. If the new virus was as deadly as the yearly influenza, we'd be looking at 200+ dead and we're not. The actual risk of this is stupid. Like look at this post. We know that symptoms are severe even if you were a healthy adult. A disease doesn't have to be lethal to be debilitating, in fact most diseases that we vaccinate against don't have high fatality rates. You need to reevaluate how you perceive risk if you are only considering death as a valid consequence
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Jan 26, 2020 23:20
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QuarkJets posted:Like look at this post. We know that symptoms are severe even if you were a healthy adult. A disease doesn't have to be lethal to be debilitating, in fact most diseases that we vaccinate against don't have high fatality rates. You need to reevaluate how you perceive risk if you are only considering death as a valid consequence The poster clearly doesn't understand that the death toll isn't the only measure of a crisis.
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Jan 26, 2020 23:22
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The most effective pathogens by far are non-lethal because it turns out that if you are a parasitic organism like bacteria or a virus then killing your host is real bad from an evolutionary perspective
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Jan 26, 2020 23:22
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spacetoaster posted:I caught the swine flue overseas a decade ago and spent two weeks in a quarantine. I got the 2009 swine flu and the fact I was in obscenely good shape is the only thing that kept me out of the hospital. The flu itself wasnt bad, but that strain had a higher rate of post-flu pneumonia and I was one of the unlucky ones. I went from running eight miles a day and teaching martial arts to “winded trying to walk”. Ended up sick for two weeks and I lost twenty pounds. One of my friends saw me when it was done and said I looked like “skeletor after chemotherapy”.
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Jan 26, 2020 23:24
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"On Sunday, Zhou Xianwang, the Mayor of Wuhan, said that 5 million people had left the city before travel restrictions were imposed ahead of the Chinese New Year. He said he expected at least 1,000 of some 3,000 suspected cases to be diagnosed with the highly-contagious virus."
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Jan 26, 2020 23:24
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pnumoman posted:The poster clearly doesn't understand that the death toll isn't the only measure of a crisis. That poster doesnt understand that the chinese value of "saving face" applies heavily to any and every number the CCP puts out.
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Jan 26, 2020 23:26
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Fojar38 posted:The most effective pathogens by far are non-lethal because it turns out that if you are a parasitic organism like bacteria or a virus then killing your host is real bad from an evolutionary perspective This. Hyper-deadly diseases like Ebola and the Spanish flu eventually commit fluicide by being so deadly they kill off their hosts, and therefore themselves. This is why the less deadly, but still massively miserable pain in the rear end, regular flu strains mutated and endured whereas the 1918 variant thankfully burned itself out. If this coronavirus is nasty enough to have a high mortality rate, but not apocalyptically high, while still loving up everyone else who manages to survive, the world is hosed. Especially America, where corporate culture is “walk it off, pussy” even while you’re projectile vomiting circles of bile around your office.
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Jan 26, 2020 23:32
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bob dobbs is dead posted:I highly suspect Wuhan's hospital system is breaking down, as is completely expected in a turbocrisis like this It seems so.  After a sharp rise from yesterday, today brought much less new confirmed cases. This would look like a good thing, until we remember that nothing happened that would indicate the situation in Wuhan is handled. Which probably means the hospitals there are pretty much full and almost no one gets tested anymore.
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Jan 26, 2020 23:33
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In the US, it's very important to "save face" and not take sick days. Which greatly increases the infection risk.
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Jan 26, 2020 23:34
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poeticoddity posted:"On Sunday, Zhou Xianwang, the Mayor of Wuhan, said that 5 million people had left the city before travel restrictions were imposed ahead of the Chinese New Year. He said he expected at least 1,000 of some 3,000 suspected cases to be diagnosed with the highly-contagious virus."
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Ugly In The Morning posted:I got the 2009 swine flu and the fact I was in obscenely good shape is the only thing that kept me out of the hospital. The flu itself wasnt bad, but that strain had a higher rate of post-flu pneumonia and I was one of the unlucky ones. I went from running eight miles a day and teaching martial arts to “winded trying to walk”. Ended up sick for two weeks and I lost twenty pounds. One of my friends saw me when it was done and said I looked like “skeletor after chemotherapy”. When you started getting better was your appetite completely gone? When I started recovering, and actually feeling good enough to take a shower and watch tv, I remember being horrified that I had 0 appetite. I had to force feed myself a pack of crackers over the course of a day. I was scared I had hosed up something in my brain and I would die of starvation while never feeling hungry again. spacetoaster fucked around with this message at 23:37 on Jan 26, 2020 |
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Jan 26, 2020 23:34
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Lambert posted:In the US, it's very important to "save face" and not take sick days. Which greatly increases the infection risk. Literally just got harassed about "not being a team player" because I didn't want to come in and give everyone this poo poo I got.
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Jan 26, 2020 23:36
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Lambert posted:In the US, it's very important to "save face" and not take sick days. Which greatly increases the infection risk. In china its very important to "save face'' and cover up coronavirus even if it gets hundreds or thousands killed.
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Jan 26, 2020 23:38
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Despera posted:In china its very important to "save face'' and cover up coronavirus even if it gets hundreds or thousands killed. Pff, idiots. We only do that for money here.
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Jan 26, 2020 23:40
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extra row of teeth posted:This. The Spanish Flu was extraordinarily dangerous, because the conditions in the trenches made the virus evolve towards higher severity. Normally, when people are very sick, they stay at home, while the ones with mild symptoms still walk around and infect others. It was completely opposite during the First World War – mildly sick soldiers would stay in the trenches where they would frequently die from other reasons (like being made to charge through artillery barrage towards the enemy), while those that couldn't fight would stay in crowded and overburdened hospitals, the same place where wounded but otherwise healthy people would recuperate before being send off to fight again.
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Jan 26, 2020 23:41
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face-saving is a feature of bureaucracies, not of nationalities
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SeXReX posted:Literally just got harassed about "not being a team player" because I didn't want to come in and give everyone this poo poo I got. At my last job I had just finished hearing why I wasn’t allowed to leave in my boss’s office before I had to cut her off mid sentence and run to the bathroom to projectile vomit. I didn’t hit the toilet, but hit the wall right above it in a 100% horizontal puke cannon like those late 90s nerf mega guns that you had to pump for a while. I then marched back into her office, puke chunks still on my blazer, and told her I was going home. gently caress corporate.
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Despera posted:In china its very important to "save face'' and cover up coronavirus even if it gets hundreds or thousands killed. Ah yes, erecting a huge quarantine zone - what a cover up!
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SeXReX posted:Literally just got harassed about "not being a team player" because I didn't want to come in and give everyone this poo poo I got. In my industry, when you call in the first question they ask is "Can you come in on Saturday?". If you call in six times in a 3 month period you get written up if they like you, fired if they don't, regardless of whether or not you have doctors notes.
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extra row of teeth posted:At my last job I had just finished hearing why I wasn’t allowed to leave in my boss’s office before I had to cut her off mid sentence and run to the bathroom to projectile vomit. I didn’t hit the toilet, but hit the wall right above it in a 100% horizontal puke cannon like those late 90s nerf mega guns that you had to pump for a while. I then marched back into her office, puke chunks still on my blazer, and told her I was going home. Should have puked in their trash can as a power move. Or alternatively their desk.
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Jan 26, 2020 23:42
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hey what's that galloping sound?
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By China's own reports only 144 casualties from the regular flu, this year compared to 6,600+ in the United States China has 1.4b people to Americas 350m China has a lower vaccination rate as well. Are these numbers because A. Superior lifestyle and genes of the glorious Han race? B. An expression of the greatness of Xi Jinping communist thought? C. Completely bullshit numbers made up by an authoritarian government to cover its own rear end Well if you chose C. congrats because even the CCP admits to their bullshit post facto https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1177725.shtml
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SeXReX posted:Literally just got harassed about "not being a team player" because I didn't want to come in and give everyone this poo poo I got. Open letter to HR/CEO: I'm very disappointed in -boss-'s blatant disregard for the health of my fellow employees and poor attitude for ongoing operational viability. Excessive workplace sickness can seriously impact profitability and....
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For some reason, most companies also love huge open spaces, which airborne pathogens can roam as far as they want. It's like every corporation secretly worshipped Nurgle.
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Jan 26, 2020 23:45
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Gantolandon posted:The Spanish Flu was extraordinarily dangerous, because the conditions in the trenches made the virus evolve towards higher severity. Normally, when people are very sick, they stay at home, while the ones with mild symptoms still walk around and infect others. It was completely opposite during the First World War – mildly sick soldiers would stay in the trenches where they would frequently die from other reasons (like being made to charge through artillery barrage towards the enemy), while those that couldn't fight would stay in crowded and overburdened hospitals, the same place where wounded but otherwise healthy people would recuperate before being send off to fight again. Oh yeah, there were a ton of factors that added to the Spanish Flu’s horrifying big death toll besides the biology of the disease itself. It didn’t help that our medical, hygiene and quarantine practices were loving caveman level compared to today. It was just a perfect storm of awful and nature took advantage. I do worry that the trench effect can be mirrored by sick blue collar workers forced to stay at their jobs in America if the virus (or any similar one) ever gains a foothold here.
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Lambert posted:Ah yes, erecting a huge quarantine zone - what a cover up! Even Xi Jinping admits there was a cover up. He threatened to "nail to a wall of shame" the people responsible.
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Gantolandon posted:For some reason, most companies also love huge open spaces, which airborne pathogens can roam as far as they want. It's like every corporation secretly worshipped Nurgle. You will find that the foundations of most office buildings are in the shape of Nurgle's symbol.
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