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HD DAD posted:I need gay space communism because I want a creative platform that doesn’t immediately get overrun by shills min-maxing its algorithms for profit. sounds like someone just doesn't have the lobes for business
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I like rlm as mindless entertainment, I don't take them seriously
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Jan 27, 2020 07:23
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Seriously. It's fun listening to those guys roast bad movies, but I don't understand why so much stock is put in their actual opinions.
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Jan 27, 2020 07:29
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Epicurius posted:I don't think I've ever sat through one of their reviews. I still like their reviews of the Star Wars prequels. Those are funny as hell.
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Jan 27, 2020 07:31
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Drink-Mix Man posted:Seriously. It's fun listening to those guys roast bad movies, but I don't understand why so much stock is put in their actual opinions. They were Right About The Prequels and have been coasting on that in people's psyche's for about 10 years now. They're great when they're zinging z-grade shlock, but I've long since lost interest in them being performatively disappointed in [Pop Culture Thing]. Turns out an actual near-death experience makes one realize they have better things to do with their time than wallow in someone else's misery vicariously. Who knew.
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Jan 27, 2020 07:46
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Also anyone who thinks that a funny framing device is a guy who murders women is, like hosed. Lol it's just a joke that a woman is being tortured in the basement, lighten up! Picard's Federation is the US without the Soviet Union, it has no big enemy to fight. Unlike in the TOS->TNG era where the galaxy was at peace, this galaxy is one that is a smoking ruin that the Federation is the sole standing empire. It's going to be paranoid as gently caress, even if on the surface everything is all right. As someone else mentioned, those that are running the show are officers who came up during the wars, and even if they may hold Federation Values at heart, they see those outside of the Federation as not worth their time. Picard had to shame them and probably used up whatever political capital he had to get them to act. As Picard straight up says "lives", he's not going to let old hatreds cloud his morality.
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Jan 27, 2020 07:47
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The Utopia Planitia shipyards are, I always presumed, at Utopia Planitia on Mars. They're not called the 'Mars orbital shipyards.' I took the orbital parts to be the last step.
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Jan 27, 2020 08:02
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People tend to bring up the evil admirals but I do tend to feel like there's a major thematic difference between 'The Federation has bad actors that we must guard against in order to preserve our society's values' vs 'The Federation itself has become rotten.'ashpanash posted:The Utopia Planitia shipyards are, I always presumed, at Utopia Planitia on Mars. They're not called the 'Mars orbital shipyards.' I took the orbital parts to be the last step. The Earth orbital fleet yards are called the San Francisco Fleet Yards, I think most of the stuff is in orbit, they're just named for the controlling centre. But you're right that there are definitely major surface facilities at Utopia Planitia. 
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Jan 27, 2020 08:12
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We don't know that the Federation has 'become rotten,' either. We have bits and clues and a general idea that the Federation (or at the very least, Starfleet) has turned inward.
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Jan 27, 2020 08:17
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ashpanash posted:The Utopia Planitia shipyards are, I always presumed, at Utopia Planitia on Mars. They're not called the 'Mars orbital shipyards.' I took the orbital parts to be the last step. Building large ships would be easier in Zero G.
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twistedmentat posted:Building large ships would be easier in Zero G. Counterpoint: Star Trek physics has little to do with real physics
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adaz posted:Yeah they didn't exist even in the dominion war -- the siege of AR-558 the soldiers were just addressed as LT etc. Basically those forces became red shirts and rip They instead used army vs navy ranks for the Bajoran Militia, with Kira being a Major and then Colonel before finally getting a Starfleet commission.
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Jan 27, 2020 08:30
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Delthalaz posted:Now I didn't write Star Trek Picard and if the RLM guys are right in their predictions yet more revenge superweapon horse poo poo then this is absolute garbage. But if this is show is anything like I hope it will be, the message is going to be: the trial never ends My body is always ready to hear that sweet sweet voice again "Mon Capitan". Man I want it sooo bad I don't even want to watch any criticism now and really hope its not going to be that predictable
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Jan 27, 2020 09:26
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AntherUslessPoster posted:My body is always ready to hear that sweet sweet voice again People have being going apeshit online for months now over a blurry on-set photo of a red leather glove peeking out from around the corner of a wall... so be careful what you wish for.
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Jan 27, 2020 09:30
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I would shoot waves and waves of cum if Q showed up.
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Jan 27, 2020 09:31
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I like rlm more than most here and yeah that Picard review was poo poo. Rich Evans deciding that the Romulan were building the Borg cube (??!?) and Mike saying he did t know what was going on at all. Both of them claim to be big fans. They desperately want Star Trek to just be tng again. Forever. Never anything new. New cinematography? Bad. Better sets? Bad. People acting like humans and not weird roddenbury pretend humans? Bad. Fight choreography? Bad. I get it. We all want 30 years of our lives back. To go back to the 90’s. But they wallow in it unashamedly. This isn’t my Star Trek when I was thinner and had more hair!
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Jan 27, 2020 09:35
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If Q does show up I hope they don't de-age him like Data and just have old rear end man John De Lancie appear as is with his beard intact and have Picard go "Oh, so pretending to be God wasn't enough for you? Now you want to look like him too?"
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Jan 27, 2020 09:36
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i love my fat data son
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nine-gear crow posted:If Q does show up I hope they don't de-age him like Data and just have old rear end man John De Lancie appear as is with his beard intact and have Picard go "Oh, so pretending to be God wasn't enough for you? Now you want to look like him too?" Naaaa, he SHOULD appear like we saw him last, young and fit. Next we see deep surprise (and mild shock expression) in Picards eyes and De Lancie abruptly goes 'oh sorry' and transforms into his current real life appearance with 'you feel better now, Jean Luc?' smirk 
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It is a funny thing with Q is that he specifically chooses his appearances with whoever he's appearing to in mind, even if he doesn't always get the idea right. (and of course, it's impossible to tell just how much he's taking the piss at any given time) He usually appears as what whoever he's talking to would recognise as an equal or superior. Given the emphasis on Data's legacy, they might even have some room for conversation; Q has taken an open interest in humanity's potential and development, and the development of synthetics by humans seems like a clear parallel.
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Jan 27, 2020 10:17
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Regarde Aduck posted:I like rlm more than most here and yeah that Picard review was poo poo. Rich Evans deciding that the Romulan were building the Borg cube (??!?) and Mike saying he did t know what was going on at all. Both of them claim to be big fans. They desperately want Star Trek to just be tng again. Forever. Never anything new. New cinematography? Bad. Better sets? Bad. People acting like humans and not weird roddenbury pretend humans? Bad. Fight choreography? Bad. I get it. We all want 30 years of our lives back. To go back to the 90’s. But they wallow in it unashamedly. This isn’t my Star Trek when I was thinner and had more hair! I thought their review was unnecessarily harsh and nitpicky in places but I don't think most people who are weary of the setting and the story beats so far just want to go back to the 90's. One thing they're right about is that we've effectively seen the first 10 minutes of a movie and it's still early to judge.
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Holy poo poo, 175 new posts and a third of it is about those loving glasses. Mods, can that discussion be bannable now? For fucks sake.
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Regarde Aduck posted:I like rlm more than most here and yeah that Picard review was poo poo. Rich Evans deciding that the Romulan were building the Borg cube (??!?) and Mike saying he did t know what was going on at all. Both of them claim to be big fans. They desperately want Star Trek to just be tng again. Forever. Never anything new. New cinematography? Bad. Better sets? Bad. People acting like humans and not weird roddenbury pretend humans? Bad. Fight choreography? Bad. I get it. We all want 30 years of our lives back. To go back to the 90’s. But they wallow in it unashamedly. This isn’t my Star Trek when I was thinner and had more hair!
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Jan 27, 2020 10:58
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AntherUslessPoster posted:Every time travel creates a multiverse 'branch' and a new timeline that is affected by your actions in this moment. Rhyno posted:Holy poo poo, 175 new posts and a third of it is about those loving glasses. Be careful what you ask for; we could end up with 200 new posts on warp nacelle design instead.
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Jan 27, 2020 12:03
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There's another Trek thread for that bullshit. This thread is about Michael Burnam, Savior if the Universe.
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Rhyno posted:There's another Trek thread for that bullshit. What Savior? I know only Michael Burnham, the Mutineer.
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DaveKap posted:Their Star Trek cred died when Mike didn't like The Orville because "it was too much like TNG." What the gently caress? It's exactly what he wants and he won't watch it. This 'Mike' fellow is correct about that, but as the saying goes, even a damaged temporal measurement device is accurate twice for each time the Earth rotates on its axis. Rhyno posted:There's another Trek thread for that bullshit.  So... Picard lives in a winery yet seems to have no interest in grapes or wine making or the retail market. I'm not yet convinced he's right and the Federation is wrong/evil. Data and androids like him are scary as gently caress since they're built to be almost invulnerable, they each have far too much stored energy, and they don't give a darn about Asimov's quaint little guidelines for robotics.
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woah what does data run on? Can't believe that never came up!
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"Power cells".
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Regarde Aduck posted:Rich Evans deciding that the Romulan were building the Borg cube (??!?) Did I miss something incredibly obvious here. Is that not exactly what happened?
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Hakkesshu posted:Did I miss something incredibly obvious here. Is that not exactly what happened? It’s not clear at all what they’re doing. It’s just referred to as a “Romulan reclamation site” which to me implied that they’re literally reclaiming Romulans from being drones.
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skasion posted:It’s not clear at all what they’re doing. It’s just referred to as a “Romulan reclamation site” which to me implied that they’re literally reclaiming Romulans from being drones. Yeah, that would also explain the line about "fixing broken people." The cube is probably an old derelict and the Romulans are salvaging what they can from it, including drones, for reasons we'll get to eventually.
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nine-gear crow posted:If Q does show up I hope they don't de-age him like Data and just have old rear end man John De Lancie appear as is with his beard intact and have Picard go "Oh, so pretending to be God wasn't enough for you? Now you want to look like him too?" "Why do you look old, Q?" "Look in a mirror, Jean-Luc, you've gotten so old and wrinkly. I'm your friend, I didn't want you to feel bad."
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Did the rest of the Federation not send any ships? And I think RLM does have a good point about writers conflating Starfleet and the Federation a lot.
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That might have been all the Federation was sending, right. ~150 member worlds, a 10,000 ship rescue fleet is 10-100 ships per member world. Earth would be a natural staging area for a fleet headed to Romulan space since it's in the Beta Quadrant.
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Kazy posted:Did the rest of the Federation not send any ships? And I think RLM does have a good point about writers conflating Starfleet and the Federation a lot. Starfleet is the Federation's navy. They're the ones who have the ships. We don't really see anything suggesting that individual planets have their own fleets, I don't think. There are civilian ships, but they aren't generally portrayed as big enough to make any meaningful difference, and plus, they're private property and I assume the Federation can't just seize them.
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Epicurius posted:Starfleet is the Federation's navy. They're the ones who have the ships. We don't really see anything suggesting that individual planets have their own fleets, I don't think. There are civilian ships, but they aren't generally portrayed as big enough to make any meaningful difference, and plus, they're private property and I assume the Federation can't just seize them. At least some possibly EU stuff indicates member worlds still make their own ships, Vulcans in particular still having their own style, and there's still all-Vulcan crews.
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Epicurius posted:Starfleet is the Federation's navy. They're the ones who have the ships. We don't really see anything suggesting that individual planets have their own fleets, I don't think. There are civilian ships, but they aren't generally portrayed as big enough to make any meaningful difference, and plus, they're private property and I assume the Federation can't just seize them. We do hear about planets having their own ships and services sometimes. The Vulcans for example definitely have their own science fleet.
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SF is Federation navy. All other worlds should have their own ships, shiplines, shipyards and fleets. The Federation unites the worlds, not starts them and the main feat for First Contact is being warp capable. And it shouldn't stop there, it's not like 'if you join federation we grant your warp1 civilisation some advanced transwarp ships and weaponry capable of annihilating your whole planet in a whim' so basically planets join federation but keep their own fleets and trade ships and so on.
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I enjoy watching the RLM reviews even when they're clearly BS. For instance, they spent a minute mocking the first scene with Djah where the Romulans try to kidnap her and put a bag over her head. The RLM crew thought that the bag itself was meant to knock her out (and to be fair, I did too the first time I watched it, but that was due to the slow-motion effect they had going on). Immediately following the bag going over her head, the Romulan tries to punch her head to knock her out, this is the point we know she's activated as she somehow blocks it without even seeing it coming. They also somehow thought the Romulans were building the Borg cube themselves? Looked pretty clear they were hoboing up in it and harvesting tech from it. For all they love to review things, their lack of actually 'watching' stuff has been getting worse and worse over the years so they can make fun of stuff on youtube. It's on the same tier as CinemaSins. Thom12255 fucked around with this message at 16:14 on Jan 27, 2020 |
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