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It's that stupid product different to a regular exercise bike in any meaningful way? It's it just some prestige marketing that makes it look like there is something special about it?
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Jan 27, 2020 06:47
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It can be remotely turned off if you don't pay your subscription, so it continues to perform capitalism even after you've paid thousands of dollars for it. That's the only difference.
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Jan 27, 2020 06:59
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T-man posted:It's not a metaphor, this is the kind of thing that TERFs, as well as non-academics, think gender is and how it functions. Platonic ideals are essentialist, and essentialist notions about gender are what society runs under in all but the queerest/transest/wokest spaces. Of course the categories are amorphous and unstable, but Butler doesn't deny that they exist, just that something is never fully and always belonging to one particular gender (or as you say, that they don't exist separate from a performative act). One of the things she does best I think is bridge that gap between french linguistic theory and an actual material discussion by considering that in the context of people's physical bodies. But she doesn't discuss it as some mystical unknowable thing, which is why I think she's actually way more accessible through interviews than by reading her theory, because she has to use the same linguistic shortcuts as the rest of us. T-man posted:
Hegel is good, Lacan I refuse. His poo poo about how the subconscious is linguistically structured is decent but his developmental psych is pure quackery and I stopped when I realised (maybe like this Duca woman) that he was being quite literal, like in talking about libidinal investment in the mother and poo poo. It's so eurocentric and heteronormative it kinda boggles the mind that people have it time of day even then. I have read people that use Lacanian ideas well, but the original material is bs in my experience. Baudrillard I have dabbled and might read more if I have time. ty for some actual reccs though.
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Jan 27, 2020 07:04
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This just comes off as more Women Are Wonderful nonsense that just always happens to exclusively support cis white upper class Western women who can totally invalidate those uncouth bro-adjacent populists who actually want to point out fundamental problems with society.
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Jan 27, 2020 07:22
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Ghost Leviathan posted:This just comes off as more Women Are Wonderful nonsense that just always happens to exclusively support cis white upper class Western women who can totally invalidate those uncouth bro-adjacent populists who actually want to point out fundamental problems with society. I like to call it Hillary Clinton Feminism in my head.
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Jan 27, 2020 08:09
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bike tory posted:some stupid female guards bullshit just take the L bike tory
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Jan 27, 2020 08:19
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Hurt Whitey Maybe posted:donoteat01 with the correct take solidarity with all comrade helicopters
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Jan 27, 2020 09:07
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White Feminists are the upper class white women version of Hoteps
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Jan 27, 2020 11:26
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Forceholy posted:White Feminists are the upper class white women version of Hoteps Not really at all
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Jan 27, 2020 12:00
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Failed Imagineer posted:Not really at all Yeah, Hoteps can at least be sympathetic in that they've reacted in a counterproductive but understandable way to their lack of privilege with trying to flip the script. White Feminists are just trying to ensure sure they get their turn to do the oppressing.
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Jan 27, 2020 12:02
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Ghost Leviathan posted:This just comes off as more Women Are Wonderful nonsense that just always happens to exclusively support cis white upper class Western women who can totally invalidate those uncouth bro-adjacent populists who actually want to point out fundamental problems with society. https://twitter.com/jmpalmieri/status/1114338480153346049?s=21
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Jan 27, 2020 12:02
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Yeah, Hoteps can at least be sympathetic in that they've reacted in a counterproductive but understandable way to their lack of privilege with trying to flip the script. White Feminists are just trying to ensure sure they get their turn to do the oppressing. I think it would be more productive to be a bit clearer with your definitions. Like, I'm a non-American white guy who grew up poor, and I'm a feminist - but presumably we're talking about something else here more like "super-privileged wealthy white North American cishet woman who dismisses intersectional concerns and actually stifles minority voices thus further reproducing patriarchal structures". Like maybe we could just say 2020 Hillary fans or something
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Jan 27, 2020 12:13
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T-man posted:I like to call it Hillary Clinton Feminism in my head.
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Jan 27, 2020 12:23
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comedyblissoption posted:Lehman Sisters This would make a great username.
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Jan 27, 2020 12:29
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cakesmith handyman posted:It can be remotely turned off if you don't pay your subscription, so it continues to perform capitalism even after you've paid thousands of dollars for it. That's the only difference.
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Jan 27, 2020 13:12
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You'd think Peleton could partner with a streaming music service or something. Instead of doing every bit of production themselves.
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Jan 27, 2020 13:15
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a helpful bear posted:Cross posting because I think this maybe applies loosely I have never heard of this. Weird. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pShKu2icEYw I thought the constant selfies were a parody.
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Jan 27, 2020 14:22
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Shipon posted:I do think there is a legitimate lack of knowledge about how systems work in countries with universal systems, even on the side of single-payer advocates. People in 20s and 30s who managed to get good jobs and have good insurance yet are healthy enough to never really use them are glad that the insurance is there, and the monthly payments while still high are affordable enough for them that they don't notice the absurd cost. If the job is good, you don't pay anything though.
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Jan 27, 2020 14:50
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anonumos posted:You'd think Peleton could partner with a streaming music service or something. Instead of doing every bit of production themselves. there is no compulsory sync right, thats why companies have divided copyrights into different "types" of copying, so they can deny usage/double charge via some other one
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Jan 27, 2020 15:01
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DACK FAYDEN posted:It also came with a "subscription" or whatever to play licensed music that streamed while you rode for a while, except now they can't renew the licenses so you get royalty-free crap instead. That seems even pointless than these bikes in general. Like, who doesn't already have their own music they can play?
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Jan 27, 2020 15:05
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starkebn posted:It's that stupid product different to a regular exercise bike in any meaningful way? It's it just some prestige marketing that makes it look like there is something special about it? The bike is basically a regular studio cycle bike with a screen and app built in. The live classes are ok because for me personally I exercise better when I have a woman yelling at me (live studio classes are better but you can get the app subscription for like $12 a month instead of $150 for a gym). The problem is that it's basically a $500 bike and a a $200 limited function tablet wrapped in a $2,000 package so what we did is my wife bought 2 used studio quality bikes for $500, put them in our basement and we just stream the classes on a tv with a firestick.
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Jan 27, 2020 15:21
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Jerry Cotton posted:If the job is good, you don't pay anything though. I’ve never known anyone who didn’t have a monthly payment taken from their gross pay. it’d be so dope not to have to pay $175 a month for basic insurance with a huge deductible as a “benefit” to my bureaucracy drone government job but as far as I know even the bosses pay monthly
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Jan 27, 2020 15:22
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The Nastier Nate posted:The bike is basically a regular studio cycle bike with a screen and app built in. The live classes are ok because for me personally I exercise better when I have a woman yelling at me (live studio classes are better but you can get the app subscription for like $12 a month instead of $150 for a gym). lol So, for how long have you been doing this?
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Jan 27, 2020 15:26
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Frog Act posted:I’ve never known anyone who didn’t have a monthly payment taken from their gross pay. it’d be so dope not to have to pay $175 a month for basic insurance with a huge deductible as a “benefit” to my bureaucracy drone government job but as far as I know even the bosses pay monthly  I didn't think I'd find out any more "America fundamentally sucks in ways I never even imagined and they just categorically fail at even the basic stuff" tid-bits on the forums but there you go.
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Jan 27, 2020 15:30
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Lambert posted:lol about 2 months so far. i put my gym membership on hold because this was cheaper and it was getting harder to get out there with my kids and work schedule
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Jan 27, 2020 15:32
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Failed Imagineer posted:I think it would be more productive to be a bit clearer with your definitions. Like, I'm a non-American white guy who grew up poor, and I'm a feminist - but presumably we're talking about something else here more like "super-privileged wealthy white North American cishet woman who dismisses intersectional concerns and actually stifles minority voices thus further reproducing patriarchal structures". No, sorry, as white people our collective cross to bear is being terrible, absolute loving garbage, for our whole lives until we die. I'm not being sarcastic we're the worst.
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Jan 27, 2020 16:03
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Andrast posted:That seems even pointless than these bikes in general. Like, who doesn't already have their own music they can play? The kind of people who listen to whatever's on the radio in the car.
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Jan 27, 2020 16:04
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Shame Boy posted:No, sorry, as white people our collective cross to bear is being terrible, absolute loving garbage, for our whole lives until we die. 
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Jan 27, 2020 16:12
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The thing is about criticising wealthy liberals is that it doesn't matter what language you use because they will use literally anything you say, including outright making poo poo up, to try to discredit you because they don't want you talking about those issues at all.
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Jan 27, 2020 16:55
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In posting this video I was going to ask how long you guys think it will actually take before having to buy protection plans from the police (or they will actually ignore you) becomes a real thing. But I'm afraid that it's probably already happening. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo2OQsPDwBI
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Jan 27, 2020 17:18
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:lol lauren duca recently taught a course at NYU called something like "feminist journalism" that was apparently actually about the career and personal life of lauren duca and featured lengthy in-class meditation sessions not gonna top the time david brooks assigned his own book while teaching a class on humility
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Jan 27, 2020 17:35
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spacetoaster posted:In posting this video I was going to ask how long you guys think it will actually take before having to buy protection plans from the police (or they will actually ignore you) becomes a real thing. But I'm afraid that it's probably already happening. 
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Jan 27, 2020 17:39
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spacetoaster posted:In posting this video I was going to ask how long you guys think it will actually take before having to buy protection plans from the police (or they will actually ignore you) becomes a real thing. But I'm afraid that it's probably already happening. check out Project Greenlight in Detroit. OCP's already here
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Jan 27, 2020 17:41
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Yeah, Hoteps can at least be sympathetic in that they've reacted in a counterproductive but understandable way to their lack of privilege with trying to flip the script. I feel like this is really ignoring the high-key misogynism and homophobia of hoteps
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Jan 27, 2020 17:47
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spacetoaster posted:In posting this video I was going to ask how long you guys think it will actually take before having to buy protection plans from the police (or they will actually ignore you) becomes a real thing. But I'm afraid that it's probably already happening. Private ‘police force’ to roll out nationally after success in London quote:For £100 to £200 a month, staff from My Local Bobby will meet with people, discuss any concerns and investigate crimes. ‘Bobbies’ patrol neighbourhoods and let people who pay track their progress on an iPad app. The business was set up by two former Metropolitan Police officers. Although the ‘bobbies’ are not PCs, they will make citizen arrests and gather evidence for private prosecutions.
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Jan 27, 2020 17:53
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boar guy posted:check out Project Greenlight in Detroit. OCP's already here AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA quote:If purchasing cameras, the cost of the program ranges from $4000-$6000 depending on your site and which approved vendor you choose. If leasing your cameras, the cost of the program ranges from $130-$180/month plus installation cost of $450-$1,000, depending on your site and which approved vendor you choose. quote:No. Each business is responsible for purchasing the flashing green light and signs from an approved Project Green Light vendor. quote:Yes per the Memorandum of Understanding (MOU), Project Green Light signs must be installed. The signage signifies to your customers and the community that you are a Project Green Light partner. The cost of the signs depends on the vendor and ranges between $400-$650. https://detroitmi.gov/departments/police-department/project-green-light-detroit#collapse-vbp-accordion-21131-1
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Jerry Cotton posted:
yeah the “benefit” is that jts considerably cheaper than if I didn’t have a full time job with benefits, where it would be out of the realm of affordability entirely, but still costs thousands plus a deductible of several hundred bucks and payment at the time of service copays even after meeting that. my girlfriend is a part time public school teacher (2-3 days a week) and works other contract jobs and just can’t afford any insurance at all
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When I had "good" insurance from work, treatment for any one medical condition was covered up to 10 000€, excluding being really fat and dental problems. General practice + lab work was covered as a matter of course if it interfered with work or was work-related but that had nothing to do with the insurance. (I once had a really stupid clerk try to bill me for something because the insurance specifically didn't cover it until the person sitting next to them leaned in and told them it was covered by my employer by law.) e: The whole point of good employer-provided healthcare is that it has been proven 100% without doubt to cost an employer less money than workers going to municipal healthcare. The fact alone that at the health centre one would basically always have to go during working hours probably affects that all by itself. ee: I'm imagining that it "WOULDNÄT WORK IN AMERICA" because: "Sir, there's this scheme that would give you more money to spend on helicopter rides, pro-AIDS advertising, and Trump campaigning." "Ah, excellent, excellent; and how would this make my minions poorer and sicker?" 3D Megadoodoo has issued a correction as of 18:16 on Jan 27, 2020 |
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