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cum
Sep 18, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

StratGoatCom posted:

By FYAD bullshit, I meant FYAD buying AVs that harassed some minority users and other bullshit.

Yeah that never happened. Unless you have clear cut evidence, shut up.

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Live Free
Jan 5, 2019

by VideoGames

cum posted:

I absolutely don't blame you for being frustrated, given what you're going through right now. However you probably know you're always going to be a target of cheap shots and you will never appease everybody. The thing is you've tried to appease both sides and people would rather have you stick to one side. I'd say stick to what you think is right, as it is your website and your decisions are what made it what it is (was).

totally see where you're coming from but it seems like he mostly did stick to the dnd/cspam/tgrs side, and still took heat for it nonetheless

louis friend
Oct 7, 2005

Lowtax posted:

You seem to forget that the entire reason I left the forums was due to the overwhelming voice of users claiming the forums were popular in spite of me, not because of me. The loudest people were the ones replying to all front page content as "THERE'S A FRONT PAGE?" and the ones complaining my heavy handed moderation was directly leading to the downfall of the forums. So I said gently caress it, I'll spend more time with my family instead.

Now I come back and the reason the forums are so negative is because I've been gone for so long and haven't been moderating, and there's hardly any front page content. I try to appease the FYAD people by having a different FYAD created, and I'm called a transphobe and my patreon drops by $1000 a month. Then I close FYAD and I'm branded as somebody who hates comedy and my patreon drops by another $500 a month. Plus now I've got people who've been here for over a decade and know I've never assaulted a single person in my life, now buying into and spreading the bullshit that I spontaneously started beating my wife and child for half a decade.

It's just a very overwhelming period for me right now, and the options I have at my disposal are extremely limited. Even when I do completely clear my name of all these completely false abuse accusations, people won't retract their initial claims and start spreading the message "WHOOPS! GUESS I WAS WRONG! LOWTAX DIDN'T ABUSE ANYBODY!"

So it just feels like an overwhelming clusterfuck right now, and it's somewhat frustrating.

The forums have continually blamed you long before that also, and it's not just here it just seems to be the thing on bbs systems to blame the admin for any action they take ever.

I miss fyad, even if you think it had gotten unfunny, and I'm sorry any of that drama cost you personally, maybe if there was a way to combine fyad with the trans forum, hopefully your patreon would go up 3000 instead of down any more.

Heather Papps
Nov 1, 2007

hello friend


if this thread is a microcosm of lowtaxs life, i really do know everything i need to know about his divorce now.

Incitatus
Dec 16, 2005

The Meat Man was out of wings, Mr. William Ash More!:argh:

cum posted:

Yeah that never happened. Unless you have clear cut evidence, shut up.

Even if this did happen, avatars are 10 bucks a piece so it would have earned a decent chunk of change.

PHIZ KALIFA
Dec 21, 2011

#mood
honestly and in all seriousness props for dealing with the actual kidnapping of your child as well as you are, i think a lot of people don't realize how traumatizing that is. like, literally PTSD inducing. dudes get ghosted on a date and plow through a day care in a hijacked tank but lowtax shows up to try to give us more shiny trinkets to look at and we just dance a merry jig in the grave we've dug for him.

some dudes got no respect.

StratGoatCom
Aug 6, 2019

Our security is guaranteed by being able to melt the eyeballs of any other forum's denizens at 15 minutes notice


qnqnx posted:

In general, I see that places that aggressively corral if not completely excise any and all political talk tend to be happier and funnier.

Also I find it hilarious that the people complaining of FYAD way past after its death and about FYAD refugees like some kind of pink bogeyman are the same ones that think posting "Trump" in increasingly misspelled ways every single minute of the day is the zenith of comedy.

Speak for yourself, I've seen those forums, and they are... well, stepford smiley.

smoobles
Sep 4, 2014

I can't believe we live in a world where BYOB outlived FYAD (this is a good thing)

cum
Sep 18, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Live Free posted:

totally see where you're coming from but it seems like he mostly did stick to the dnd/cspam/tgrs side, and still took heat for it nonetheless

Oh absolutely. He tried to juggle both sides, but yes he did stick to the cspam/tgrs side at the end. To be honest, their shouts and demands were growing more ludicrous by the second, even when he tried to appease them like 5 times. I think them being impossible to please and turning on Lowtax at the end was incredibly predictable.

mike12345
Jul 14, 2008

"Whether the Earth was created in 7 days, or 7 actual eras, I'm not sure we'll ever be able to answer that. It's one of the great mysteries."





If you want feedback on the forums, make a separate thread for it. Why is this discussion buried in a thread about your divorce? And then you complain you're only getting brokebrain advice.

Weedle
May 31, 2006




Lowtax posted:

I try to appease the FYAD people by having a different FYAD created, and I'm called a transphobe and my patreon drops by $1000 a month. Then I close FYAD and I'm branded as somebody who hates comedy and my patreon drops by another $500 a month.

i'm sure these are rough numbers but if this is even broadly correct it sounds ironically like the fun-hating joke police were materially contributing a lot more than the fyad comedy legends.

Bad Purchase
Jun 17, 2019




anyone getting roiled up itt should swing by the pigs balls thread for a moment of quiet reflection

UnfurledSails
Sep 1, 2011

StratGoatCom posted:

By FYAD bullshit, I meant FYAD buying AVs that harassed some minority users and other bullshit.

lmao that people keep lying about fyad even after they succeeded in shutting it down.

Live Free
Jan 5, 2019

by VideoGames

cum posted:

Oh absolutely. He tried to juggle both sides, but yes he did stick to the cspam/tgrs side at the end. To be honest, their shouts and demands were growing more ludicrous by the second, even when he tried to appease them like 5 times. I think them being impossible to please and turning on Lowtax at the end was incredibly predictable.

i agree with you there, they had "impossible to please" written all over them

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Incitatus posted:

That's the price of being a public figure. Everything you do is correct/wrong and every opinion you hold is offensive/too accomadating. Whatever you do there will always be a group that feels like you are the worst person on the Earth.

Yeah this is something a lot of people don't understand until they suddenly find themselves famous and the internet has made it 1000 times worse.

ulvir
Jan 2, 2005

smoobles posted:

I can't believe we live in a world where BYOB outlived FYAD (this is a good thing)

smoobled again

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness

mike12345 posted:

If you want feedback on the forums, make a separate thread for it. Why is this discussion buried in a thread about your divorce? And then you complain you're only getting brokebrain advice.

The heart wants what the heart wants.

Goons Are Gifts
Jan 1, 1970

ulvir posted:

smoobled again

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

i demand the return of the porn torrent forum. this is the only viable path forward

cum
Sep 18, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Endorph posted:

i demand the return of the porn torrent forum. this is the only viable path forward

:razz:

Dip Viscous
Sep 17, 2019

Weedle posted:

hey how about if you dont like the politics forums fuckin dont go in there instead of calling for them to be shut down because you find the """""atmosphere""""" off-putting or whatever. fuckin lol. gosh if it werent for those dang forums i wouldnt ever have to think about anything bad happening and i could just play video games and jack my dick and be happy

yeah this. a lot of people see cspam as the source of all of the forums drama and secret service visits. i've never posted in cspam but i can still see that most of the people are good and also funny and it's only the 1% worst of the posters that cause problems for everybody and spread their poo poo between forums. nothing needs to be closed, just ban the bad posters and let each forum have their own rules and culture.

CountryMatters
Apr 8, 2009

IT KEEPS HAPPENING

Weedle posted:

i'm sure these are rough numbers but if this is even broadly correct it sounds ironically like the fun-hating joke police were materially contributing a lot more than the fyad comedy legends.

I imagine both events involved people on both sides dropping out since at every stage it seemed like everyone was angry at once

ArfJason
Sep 5, 2011

UnfurledSails posted:

lmao that people keep lying about fyad even after they succeeded in shutting it down.

Its one hell of a wild ride.

Heather Papps
Nov 1, 2007

hello friend


UnfurledSails posted:

lmao that people keep lying about fyad even after they succeeded in shutting it down.

ulvir posted:

smoobled again

Kurnugia
Sep 2, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
making decisions means people who dont agree are going to be mad with the guy who made the decisions. your patreon was going to drop regardless of what choice you made about fyad, not that closing it was a good decision. welcome to a world of social media perceptrons, where the only thing that doesnt get you hosed silly is pretending you have no power to do anything and rejecting all responsibility. you will never achieve any kind of positive resolution to problems created by a bunch of people screaming at you, by simply doing what the loudest of voices demand creates the precedent that screaming at you is the way to get what they want. and so here we are, and thus *screaming*

qnqnx
Nov 14, 2010

cum posted:

I absolutely don't blame you for being frustrated, given what you're going through right now. However you probably know you're always going to be a target of cheap shots and you will never appease everybody. The thing is you've tried to appease both sides and people would rather have you stick to one side. I'd say stick to what you think is right, as it is your website and your decisions are what made it what it is (was).

Incitatus posted:

That's the price of being a public figure. Everything you do is correct/wrong and every opinion you hold is offensive/too accomadating. Whatever you do there will always be a group that feels like you are the worst person on the Earth.

Honestly do what makes you happiest with the forum. If you want a new FYAD do it, if you want to shut down half of the forums why not? It's your business first and foremost and its important to be happy with it. Don't try to appease everyone because you'll just drive yourself insane trying to do that.

These posts are very true. You can never make everyone happy, and especially not compromises.
I think the forums too will largely cut you slack while you fix your horrid legal issues Lowtax, and if they don't, these are your forums man.

qnqnx fucked around with this message at 16:51 on Jan 27, 2020

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

I think it would be nice if not every lowtax thread degenerated into negativity, insults, and drama. Maybe then he'd spend more time here??

Shut up Meg
Jan 8, 2019

You're safe here.

Lowtax posted:

It's just a very overwhelming period for me right now, and the options I have at my disposal are extremely limited. Even when I do completely clear my name of all these completely false abuse accusations, people won't retract their initial claims and start spreading the message "WHOOPS! GUESS I WAS WRONG! LOWTAX DIDN'T ABUSE ANYBODY!"

So it just feels like an overwhelming clusterfuck right now, and it's somewhat frustrating.

Dude, you're being bullied here and you need to admit it.

But it's by a very vocal minority and you do have the power to stop them.

Just break out the banhammer and go hog wild.
Make false accusations about you? Ban.
Make snide insinuations? Ban.
Unwarranted negativity? Ban.

Wave it around like a drunken Thor and the following will happen:

1) you will feel much better
2) the assholes will run away and set up another 'we hate Lowtax' website and this place will be better off without them OR
3) they rereg, buy plat and a new avatar and you've $25 to spend on the forums
4) It will make the place happier.

Lowtax
Nov 16, 1999

by Skyl3lazer

Live Free posted:

totally see where you're coming from but it seems like he mostly did stick to the dnd/cspam/tgrs side, and still took heat for it nonetheless
I didn't re-close FYAD because I was talking the CSPAM / TGRS side, I closed it because they kept pulling the same poo poo we asked them not to do, which was cut out the Nazi poo poo.

UnfurledSails
Sep 1, 2011

*

wrong thread

Heather Papps
Nov 1, 2007

hello friend


UnfurledSails posted:

*

wrong thread

whatta save! also i agree tho' the doublethink in this thread is p insane

pieuvre armement
Feb 27, 2018

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Weedle posted:

i'm sure these are rough numbers but if this is even broadly correct it sounds ironically like the fun-hating joke police were materially contributing a lot more than the fyad comedy legends.

Weird post

Snazzy Frocks
Mar 31, 2003

Scratchmo
Lowtax you should just make a thread titled "Lowtax(me) is online and fielding questions and responding to stuff" that you sticky when you come aroundv and close when you take a break because I don't think this thread is about your divorce anymore and this always happens to all your threads

very nice i like
Jan 8, 2020

I CANT RESIST SHITTING UP THE BIG BOOBS THREAD WITH MY RANDOM FUCKING MONKEY CHEESE BULLSHIT! IF YOU SEE ME, FUCK ME UP.

Snazzy Frocks posted:

Lowtax you should just make a thread titled "Lowtax(me) is online and fielding questions and responding to stuff" that you sticky when you come aroundv and close when you take a break because I don't think this thread is about your divorce anymore and this always happens to all your threads

this is a good idea imo

Lowtax
Nov 16, 1999

by Skyl3lazer

Shut up Meg posted:

Dude, you're being bullied here and you need to admit it.
No, I'm being actively lied about and having my name dragged through the mud by a bitter ex who is attempting to use the VAWA to expedite her passport / green card process by outright lying and taking up resources designed for women who have actually been battered and aren't just gaming the system.

Heather Papps
Nov 1, 2007

hello friend


it's me lowtax, i'm the bully.

it's time you say "no you can't have my backpack" and try shoving me into a ditch for once

very nice i like
Jan 8, 2020

I CANT RESIST SHITTING UP THE BIG BOOBS THREAD WITH MY RANDOM FUCKING MONKEY CHEESE BULLSHIT! IF YOU SEE ME, FUCK ME UP.
can i be the thread ik for the lowtax Q&A thread

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Lowtax posted:

No, I'm being actively lied about and having my name dragged through the mud by a bitter ex who is attempting to use the VAWA to expedite her passport / green card process by outright lying and taking up resources designed for women who have actually been battered and aren't just gaming the system.

drat didnt know jack daniels was that bitter

Shut up Meg
Jan 8, 2019

You're safe here.

Lowtax posted:

No, I'm being actively lied about and having my name dragged through the mud by a bitter ex who is attempting to use the VAWA to expedite her passport / green card process by outright lying and taking up resources designed for women who have actually been battered and aren't just gaming the system.

Which is obvious to all the non-foaming posters on these forums.
And anyone who insinuates otherwise is clearly using it to help grind their axe against you.

But they are a clear minority and you need to cull them for your mental health and also For The Good Of The Forums.

FFS, this is your house. If people poo poo-talk you in your own house, you throw them out, Uncle Phil style.

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cum
Sep 18, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

very nice i like posted:

can i be the thread ik for the lowtax Q&A thread

Me too.

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