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https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1221915836543389701
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overmind2000 posted:They'd openly call for a major economic depression at the very least isnt it amazing how our corporate media shapes a narrative based on their own pocketbook and not what is actual news?
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Jan 28, 2020 00:20
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Sydin posted:The NYT is so loving salty about Sanders lol The main thrust of their coverage will be something like, "do we really want to go from radical president to another? Maybe it's better to stick with the devil you know"
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Jan 28, 2020 00:28
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Apparently Kamala's staff were genuinely losing their poo poo over being dunked on by leftist twitter. This gives me life
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Jan 28, 2020 00:29
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VitalSigns posted:Eh he had a big enough plurality that ratfucking him would have caused a lot of strife, whereas the losers dropping out and uniting behind one candidate early would have appeared more legitimate. his popular vote margin was bolstered by all of his opponents dropping out after it became clear it was impossible to stop him from getting a delegate majority. for example, he had no opponents left in the race when california voted. and the gop's lovely rules led to stuff like him collecting all 50 delegates in south carolina despite only getting 32% of the vote. the gop system was essentially designed to allow a person with a decent plurality to rack up big delegate totals and win the race quickly, which is exactly what happened. i mean, he got 45% of the popular vote and he had no opponents for the last month of the primary. under dem rules, he would 100% have faced a contested convention and i think his odds would have been pretty bad - especially since, under dem rules, he also would have faced super delegates that would have probably tried to stop him. Concerned Citizen fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Jan 28, 2020 |
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Jan 28, 2020 00:32
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Sydin posted:The NYT is so loving salty about Sanders lol The crazy thing is that they actually hate Sanders quite a bit less than a number of competing newspapers like WAPO. The anti-Sanders sentiment among media elites in general is overwhelming.
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Jan 28, 2020 00:42
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I donated to a political campaign for the first time in my life two weeks ago for Sanders. Today I made another small donation. I was initially for Warren at the beginning when she was being aggressive on the rich and fully supported M4A. It's too bad she backed off on M4A and pulled the stupid stunt, because that's what got me to donate to Sanders. I believe Trump will not win the election and Sanders is the only candidate who can help improve my life and life of my younger sister. If I end up being wrong then I will continue to suffer as I have been, but I'm tired of all the distractions.
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Jan 28, 2020 00:42
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Vox Nihili posted:The crazy thing is that they actually hate Sanders quite a bit less than a number of competing newspapers like WAPO. The anti-Sanders sentiment among media elites in general is overwhelming. Probably since Sanders doesn’t call out the NYT’s owner by name in campaign speeches
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Jan 28, 2020 00:43
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FlamingLiberal posted:I feel like everyone has already forgotten about that I know I have, what reality show
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Jan 28, 2020 00:44
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Uncle Wemus posted:I know I have, what reality show The series of interviews they published in anticipation of their endorsement which turned out to be a hilarious wet fart
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Jan 28, 2020 00:45
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Concerned Citizen posted:his popular vote margin was bolstered by all of his opponents dropping out after it became clear it was impossible to stop him from getting a delegate majority. for example, he had no opponents left in the race when california voted. and the gop's lovely rules led to stuff like him collecting all 50 delegates in south carolina despite only getting 32% of the vote. the gop system was essentially designed to allow a person with a decent plurality to rack up big delegate totals and win the race quickly, which is exactly what happened. Maybe maybe not. There still would have been the problem that Cruz wasn't liked by the establishment either, and a lot of Cruz voters preferred Trump to any of the establishment picks. I don't think you can say for certain that even if they had all brokered a deal at the convention to support Cruz or Rubio, that enough unsatisfied delegates wouldn't have defected to Trump to give him a majority of elected delegates anyway. You're right that under Dem rules superdelegates would be able to override that regardless, but it's doubtful that they would have done it given the damage it would do to the eventual ticket (after all, overturning the elected delegates with superdelegates isn't really different than just using your control of the rules committee to disregard the primary altogether and pick a nominee, the GOP establishment had that power and declined to use it) Regardless, an attempted ratfucking would have had a better chance of success and lower chance of burning down the party if, say, Rubio and Kasich and Bush had united behind one of them before Iowa. That would have pushed Trump to #3 in Iowa, and #2 in New Hampshire and South Carolina, and the race would have likely played out differently without that momentum behind Trump. I don't think you can seriously argue that the narcissism and stubbornness of all those losers didn't cause problems, only that it might not have been the deciding factor.
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Jan 28, 2020 00:45
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Concerned Citizen posted:although if trump had run for president under dem rules in '16, he would have lost in a contested convention I'm not sure if I really buy this. Cutting out the candidate with a large plurality of the pledged delegates seems like an incredibly foolish move. Plus, Trump could have eventually cut a deal with another also-ran candidate to get a majority, e.g. promise Cruz the Attorney General slot for his support.
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Jan 28, 2020 00:47
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ManBoyChef posted:They would be in the tank for trump They absolutely will but they’ll have to sugarcoat it for their brain dead lib readers at first.
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Jan 28, 2020 00:49
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The good thing is that the Lib media has gone too hard on the anti-Trump message, and will find it impossible to effectively pivot to outright supporting him at this point.
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Jan 28, 2020 00:51
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Revalis Enai posted:I donated to a political campaign for the first time in my life two weeks ago for Sanders. Today I made another small donation. Im kinda in the same boat. I'm pretty sick and my medical bills are crushing me. Lets just hope for all three of us this country can get its head out of it's rear end.
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Jan 28, 2020 00:51
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https://twitter.com/RepDaveMorrill/status/1221899002825846784
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Jan 28, 2020 00:53
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loving tankies
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Jan 28, 2020 00:54
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Cerebral Bore posted:The good thing is that the Lib media has gone too hard on the anti-Trump message, and will find it impossible to effectively pivot to outright supporting him at this point. NYT was at war with Sandersia. Therefore, NYT had always been at war with Sandersia.
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Jan 28, 2020 00:55
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Cerebral Bore posted:The good thing is that the Lib media has gone too hard on the anti-Trump message, and will find it impossible to effectively pivot to outright supporting him at this point. I do expect the Never Trumpers to go more pro-Trump faced with a Bernie presidency
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Jan 28, 2020 00:56
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NeverTrumpers come in two flavors. The flavor that hates him just because he's low class and gross will switch back to him because they care about money more than anything else. The flavor that fears nuclear war under a maniac as president might decide to go with Bernie. I think the first group is much larger, even though the second group should be like, 380 million people.
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Jan 28, 2020 01:01
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Halloween Jack posted:We should just let Wyoming vote for president. Also raise the voting age to 40. We'd get a Cheney president for the rest of America's existence (so like two presidents tops)
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Jan 28, 2020 01:04
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If the DNC snub Bernie for the nomination when he has a clear majority, that would be the stupidest thing they could possibly do. For one, you're gonna see riots almost guaranteed. Secondly, no one is going to vote Democrat ever again, and any upcoming talent you might have had is out of the party. No way someone like AOC stays Democrat after something like that happens. Trump gets re-elected for sure, and now people are gonna lash out against the Democrats by voting Republican and they get to take over the House and Senate. It would be the worst and most self-destructive thing they do and that's why I think they're definitely kicking the idea around
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Jan 28, 2020 01:09
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So looks like the next tactic they're going after is Bernie's track record on guns. Because if there's one thing working class voters hate, it's *checks notes* common sense regulations that don't harm hunters' ability to buy rifles
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Jan 28, 2020 01:11
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RazzleDazzleHour posted:If the DNC snub Bernie for the nomination when he has a clear majority, that would be the stupidest thing they could possibly do. For one, you're gonna see riots almost guaranteed. Secondly, no one is going to vote Democrat ever again, and any upcoming talent you might have had is out of the party. No way someone like AOC stays Democrat after something like that happens. Trump gets re-elected for sure, and now people are gonna lash out against the Democrats by voting Republican and they get to take over the House and Senate. It would be the worst and most self-destructive thing they do and that's why I think they're definitely kicking the idea around I think they will do it in a more insidious way.
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Jan 28, 2020 01:13
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oxsnard posted:So looks like the next tactic they're going after is Bernie's track record on guns. Because if there's one thing working class voters hate, it's *checks notes* common sense regulations that don't harm hunters' ability to buy rifles All they'll do is highlight Bernie's legitimate cross over appeal for some Republican voters.
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Jan 28, 2020 01:15
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empty whippet box posted:All they'll do is highlight Bernie's legitimate cross over appeal for some Republican voters. Yup. Btw, the comments on the new york times have overwhelmingly been supportive of sanders. https://mobile.twitter.com/briebriejoy/status/1221944767157764097 A quick count shows that 40 out of the top 50 rated comments are either pro bernie or "this is trash" with another 6 being neutral and 4 ragging on Bernie Bros. I really don't think the NYT readership is buying this
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Jan 28, 2020 01:19
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We're at the point where the mainstream media being explicitly negative towards him just makes him stronger
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Jan 28, 2020 01:20
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Did they seriously quote corncob candice wtf
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Jan 28, 2020 01:20
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oxsnard posted:Yup.
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Jan 28, 2020 01:21
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I unfollowed NYT on all my feeds after their dual nomination horseshit. They're trash. Welcome to Bernie hate week: https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2020/01/media-hates-bernie-sanders.html
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Jan 28, 2020 01:22
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Are Candice and Sady the same person because the both have the same shiteating smirk in their pictures
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Jan 28, 2020 01:23
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FlamingLiberal posted:It's been done to death at this point. I have also yet to see a real instance of harassment. The last time someone said they were being 'harassed', they posted their Twitter screenshots and it was just criticism. Oh I've seen plenty of harassment. Let's be honest on that front. Bernie has a larger and younger following so there are lots of edgelords. It's nothing particularly noteworthy though. Until someone actually shows a systemic, statistically significant problem or highlights how Bernie's campaign enables it, it's a super weak attack though
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Jan 28, 2020 01:24
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I do have to thank the NYT. If it weren't for them I would have never known to look out for Bernie's dick in my eye. Or that there was a delicious cake to celebrate it. https://twitter.com/spindlypete/status/908022051633373184 oxsnard posted:Oh I've seen plenty of harassment. Let's be honest on that front. Bernie has a larger and younger following so there are lots of edgelords. It's nothing particularly noteworthy though. Until someone actually shows a systemic, statistically significant problem or highlights how Bernie's campaign enables it, it's a super weak attack though Their main problem is that while there has certainly been actual harassment, they've drowned it out with a million wolf cries over the terrible Bernie Bots calling them an idiot. Turns out when you drop a steaming hot take and several hundred people say they don't like it, nobody by you actually sees that as harassment.
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Jan 28, 2020 01:32
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The media really hates having to defend their lovely positions, and any challenge to that makes you the bad guy
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Jan 28, 2020 01:52
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This whole Warren sexism thing and the solid week of Sanders bashing in the mainstream press only helps him in my opinion. The real leftists already laugh at Sanders, the Obama-Trump voters probably like the under dog. Clinton Twitter fools don’t realize that real politics don’t happen online and that they are not the electorate. Bernie’s gonna win.
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Jan 28, 2020 01:58
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I think eventually the attacks will take their toll however the media doesn't have two or three years to blow enough smoke that it convinces enough people there must be fire.
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Jan 28, 2020 02:03
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It took 30 years for that to work on Clinton, and she was a total piece of poo poo.
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Jan 28, 2020 02:18
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It’s gonna wild to see all the hot NYT takes if Bernie gets the nom with articles like “C’mon guys, is Trump really so bad?” that spend the entire time trying not to explicitly say “things are more or less business as usual for whites at least!”
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Jan 28, 2020 02:22
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ARACHTION posted:Bernie’s gonna win. I was talking to someone at work who switched to Republican in 2016 after being a lifelong Democrat. She said she didn't like Bernie and didn't think he could take Ohio. I said "so who do you think would get it then? Biden? Warren?" and she looked down and said "Yeaaaaaah you're probably right." She's like 60+. He's gonna do it.
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Jan 28, 2020 02:23
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I think the key thing to keep in mind is the value of pounding pavement and evangelizing in your social circle. For all that I voiced some discouragement and “being on defense”-fatigue in my posts from last night it’s been really great to get family members and friends onto the Bernie train. The biggest weapons we have against the media smears are ourselves, our relationships, and our time. Maybe your 50 year-old neighbor read a concerning WaPo article about BernieBros. But she’s known you for 10 years and you’re not a misogynist. And if you sit down with her and explain the play, maybe she’ll look at the next bullshit article with more skepticism. As the attacks ramp up, it cannot be overstated how vital it is to inoculate the people around you against them. We need as many enthusiastic supporters going into the primaries as possible. Anybody who is currently on the fence, or indifferent, or “waiting until the convention” needs to be brought in. I got some naysaying pushback last night for saying it, but they will do everything in their power to ratfuck us and it is probable that we will not win if we give the party the opportunity to make that happen. The only guard we have against that is people. If you don’t already have the Bernie App, download it and sign up for poo poo right now No Sleep Till Iowa. No Sleep Till South Carolina. No Sleep Till Washington DC. trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 02:25 on Jan 28, 2020 |
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Jan 28, 2020 02:23
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