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Bad news guys, huge attack ad that is totally meant to make Bernie look bad incoming https://twitter.com/jackcalifano/status/1221802296046182401?s=20
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oxsnard posted:Hey here's a Google photos album with thousands of screenshots of Hillary/Khive people being gross bigots on Twitter this collage is pure psychic violence
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Jan 28, 2020 05:17
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Built 4 Cuban Linux posted:Hmmmm they did some sort of mock caucus thing at Drake University and only Warren & Buttigieg hit the threshold. I was in.the basement of that building while it was going on. It hurt the attendance for Andrew Siedels talk  Also no surprise Warren had a table there with workers and its the first day of classes. So you really had to be motivated to go. Still a good showing for Pete.
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Jan 28, 2020 05:28
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RazzleDazzleHour posted:Bad news guys, huge attack ad that is totally meant to make Bernie look bad incoming [THING IS BAD VOICE]Bernie Sanders is crazy. He's so radical, even his AGE is extreme! He wants to give you *record scratch* *gasp* HEALTH CARE! *glass shatters* *woman screams*
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Jan 28, 2020 05:32
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Bernie thinks that the government should just give you things in exchange for the tax money that you pay them. Currency in exchange for goods and services? Sounding awfully capitalism to me 
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Jan 28, 2020 05:35
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genius. progressives will vote for him bc he is so liberal, boomers will now vote for him bc he is so old
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Jan 28, 2020 05:37
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So I assume the plan with that ad is to make Bernie look awesome because they think Trump will destroy him in the general? Pulling a Hillary.
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Jan 28, 2020 05:43
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Ugh, the term "cuck" was already embarrassing when it was just the alt-right using it. Can't believe anyone else would appropriate it.
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Jan 28, 2020 05:46
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CubanMissile posted:Ugh, the term "cuck" was already embarrassing when it was just the alt-right using it. Can't believe anyone else would appropriate it. It's a fun word to say.
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Jan 28, 2020 05:47
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Majorian posted:It's a fun word to say. Gross.
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Jan 28, 2020 05:48
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Don't you tone police me. (I think I've used the word like twice in my life, both mockingly)
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Jan 28, 2020 05:49
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oxsnard posted:Hey here's a Google photos album with thousands of screenshots of Hillary/Khive people being gross bigots on Twitter I think this tweet is a core example of the joe rogan drama we saw last week. The dynamic over these sorts of issues in more progressive internet environments has been total acquiescence, it's often a good thing because it gives people a platform they might not get the respect for outside of forums/social media but it's also created a 2-edged sword where dumb online people turn every disagreement into a social attack that you'd be a bad person for supporting the other side of. People upset about the blanket refusal to engage them on that particular endorsement are not necessarily mad at the boost to bernie, they're upset with the pushback in spaces they'd typically get nothing less than total agreement from. Which is why you see so many arguments to the effect of "I still like Bernie I just wish he handled it differently because I'm right and we should all agree I'm right so we can move on"
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Jan 28, 2020 05:49
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About the Joe Rogan thing: Turns out not everyone who votes for an economically leftist platform is socially liberal.
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Jan 28, 2020 05:51
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Majorian posted:Don't you tone police me. tbf I don't think I've ever heard someone use it in real life. I might just be lucky tho.
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Jan 28, 2020 05:52
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CubanMissile posted:tbf I don't think I've ever heard someone use it in real life. I might just be lucky tho. I've used it once ever. I was talking to someone who works a retail job and they have to thank veterans for their service (which is fine) but I thought "oh, what if it's the spouse or something" and they said "I have to tell the spouse to thank the other spouse for their service" and it felt like if there was any time in my life where something could have been considered a real cuck move it was that
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Jan 28, 2020 06:21
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Awful CompSloth posted:About the Joe Rogan thing: Turns out not everyone who votes for an economically leftist platform is socially liberal. Rogan is ignorant about trans people (and therefore had said and done transphobic things that should be challenged) but generally tends towards more progressive thinking these days. For example: https://twitter.com/rousseaufanboy/status/1220561065966219264?s=19
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Jan 28, 2020 06:22
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Jan 28, 2020 06:29
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Jan 28, 2020 06:34
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Majorian posted:It's a fun word to say. You're thinking of cluck, and it's only fun if you're serious about imitating a chicken.
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Jan 28, 2020 06:46
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Nonsense posted:https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1221858236107763712?s=20 This is basically "can a Jew win the presidency? we think not" Which is incredibly ironic. Obviously.
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Jan 28, 2020 06:52
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Built 4 Cuban Linux posted:Hmmmm they did some sort of mock caucus thing at Drake University and only Warren & Buttigieg hit the threshold. Let's try not to do the UKMT thing where we dismiss all evidence against Bernie running away with the nomination or whatever. Please prepare yourself for a loss in Iowa and a failure to secure the nomination - for your own health and so that you will be better prepared mentally for what must come next. It's looking really good, but even the "good" polls still show a very close race.
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Jan 28, 2020 06:55
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MSDOS KAPITAL posted:Most are dragging this but it does concern me. I would have predicted Bernie would win this, with reasonably high confidence. I think most people here would as well. Moreover I would have interpreted his winning it as "good" in that it would give me more confidence he will win the Iowa caucus - not less. So because of the latter this has to give me less confidence (how much less I'm not sure, but less) he will win the Iowa caucus - you can't have it both ways - and because of the former I must also concede that the hit to my confidence in that win is more than insignificant. you gotta chill the gently caress out. It's one thing to downplay polling, and quite another to worry about what a couple of nerds do at a $50k per year private college.
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Jan 28, 2020 07:02
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MSDOS KAPITAL posted:Most are dragging this but it does concern me. I would have predicted Bernie would win this, with reasonably high confidence. I think most people here would as well. Moreover I would have interpreted his winning it as "good" in that it would give me more confidence he will win the Iowa caucus - not less. So because of the latter this has to give me less confidence (how much less I'm not sure, but less) he will win the Iowa caucus - you can't have it both ways - and because of the former I must also concede that the hit to my confidence in that win is more than insignificant. It's a self-selecting straw poll at an expensive private university where a bunch of rich kids showed up and voted for their favorite candidate who would make sure their dad's taxes wouldn't go up too much. I suggest not reading too much into it, and even if you want to factor it in you would want to weigh it against Bernie gaining in or winning every poll released over the last week.
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Jan 28, 2020 07:04
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Majorian posted:It's a fun word to say. It was funny when it was sort of a rarely-used medieval throwback, before it had a bunch of racist and sexist connotations dumped on it by the alt-right types. Alas.
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Jan 28, 2020 07:08
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MSDOS KAPITAL posted:Most are dragging this but it does concern me. I would have predicted Bernie would win this, with reasonably high confidence. I think most people here would as well. Moreover I would have interpreted his winning it as "good" in that it would give me more confidence he will win the Iowa caucus - not less. So because of the latter this has to give me less confidence (how much less I'm not sure, but less) he will win the Iowa caucus - you can't have it both ways - and because of the former I must also concede that the hit to my confidence in that win is more than insignificant. Why would you predict the outcome of a mock caucus, much less a mock caucus at a private university made to bar undesirables.
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MSDOS KAPITAL posted:Most are dragging this but it does concern me. I would have predicted Bernie would win this, with reasonably high confidence. I think most people here would as well. Moreover I would have interpreted his winning it as "good" in that it would give me more confidence he will win the Iowa caucus - not less. So because of the latter this has to give me less confidence (how much less I'm not sure, but less) he will win the Iowa caucus - you can't have it both ways - and because of the former I must also concede that the hit to my confidence in that win is more than insignificant. The meaning you can ascribe to this straw caucus is the same that you can ascribe to the Iowa State Fair straw polls and similar: Zero. Exactly zero. It would be fun if Bernie won silly event X, but it has literally zero bearing on real world results. Attempting to divine meaning from every single shred of information is just going to drive you crazy. In any case, if you're worried, the best thing you can do is volunteer. And really, you should be worried! It's an incredibly close and competitive race! Anyone could win! Just don't be worried about this silly thing in particular.
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Me and my brothers just held a mock caucus and Bernie got 100% of the delegates. This bodes poorly for Buttigieg's chances.
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Wicked Them Beats posted:It's a self-selecting straw poll at an expensive private university where a bunch of rich kids showed up and voted for their favorite candidate who would make sure their dad's taxes wouldn't go up too much. I suggest not reading too much into it, and even if you want to factor it in you would want to weigh it against Bernie gaining in or winning every poll released over the last week. Office Pig posted:Why would you predict the outcome of a mock caucus, much less a mock caucus at a private university made to bar undesirables.  why not
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https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/college-mobility/drake-university The median family income of a student from Drake is $131,700, and 62% come from the top 20 percent. About 1.7% of students at Drake came from a poor family but became a rich adult.
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Wicked Them Beats posted:Me and my brothers just held a mock caucus and Bernie got 100% of the delegates. This bodes poorly for Buttigieg's chances.  what a relief
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Jan 28, 2020 07:14
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Did Bloomberg eliminate the possibility of running 3rd party? Anyone else look interested in doing it?
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joepinetree posted:https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/college-mobility/drake-university If this mock caucus reminds us of anything, let it be that the rich will always have the back of their fellows. These kids are future lanyards in the making; don't just assume because they're Gen Z or know how to use TikTok that they're actually interested in anything but keeping themselves comfortable and in power. And look forward to at least one of those smug assholes writing an op-ed ten years from now where they deride Bernie's reforms and refer to themselves as a Mayor Pete Democrat. No war but class war.
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ARACHTION posted:Did Bloomberg eliminate the possibility of running 3rd party? Anyone else look interested in doing it? Sore loser laws in a ton of states make it impossible I think
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Condiv posted:pete's campaign messaging seems very confused Central High, the big bad rival team in the movie Hoosiers, is (was - it's apartments now) in downtown South Bend, a couple blocks from pete's old office (and visible from his window). Notre Dame is football country tho.
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joepinetree posted:https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/college-mobility/drake-university bernie won the drake precinct 3 delegates to 1 in 2016, hillary was iirc barely viable
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MSDOS KAPITAL posted:Most are dragging this but it does concern me. I would have predicted Bernie would win this, with reasonably high confidence. I think most people here would as well. Moreover I would have interpreted his winning it as "good" in that it would give me more confidence he will win the Iowa caucus - not less. So because of the latter this has to give me less confidence (how much less I'm not sure, but less) he will win the Iowa caucus - you can't have it both ways - and because of the former I must also concede that the hit to my confidence in that win is more than insignificant. Like other people mentioned, this mockus is cherry picked nonsense. Even if there were a sizable contingent of Bernie supporters at that school, they're almost certainly doing something useful like canvassing or phone banking or what have you, they wouldn't be wasting their time at a glorified publicity stunt for centrist cheerleaders.
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joepinetree posted:https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/college-mobility/drake-university No offense to anyone who went to Drake, but that’s like a total “your flagship state school is way better but your family’s too proud to send you to State” school. Like if you’re rich enough to afford tuition but can’t get into an actually desirable private university or college you end up at a place like Drake. Couldn’t get into a school on one of the Coasts (not even BU), couldn’t go to Vandy/Emory/Rice in the South. Definitely didn’t get into UChicago or Villanova/Notre Dame. Womp womp. Also, for being a university with a pharm and business schools it’s way smaller than my undergrad-only liberal arts college (yeah I was a scholarship kid, still picked up mad debt tho)
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check out this Biden campaign surrogate's casual slur drop, on Holocaust Memorial Day no less https://twitter.com/ChrisDJackson/status/1221998555314913280?s=20
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oxsnard posted:check out this Biden campaign surrogate's casual slur drop, on Holocaust Memorial Day no less A pack of gypsies? Uhhhhhhhh they better apologize real quick and real well for that one.
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