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It's not exactly uncanny valley, but it's close. Very weird and somewhat unsettling, but not creepy like a zombie or the Japanese sexbots. It's more funny creepy. It requires its own category. It's the "Tom Hooper's Cats" category of the uncanny valley. Not sure if there is anything else that falls into that category though.
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Jan 28, 2020 23:05
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I've been trying to watch that screener now for days and man is it hard to get through. My typically very chill cat jumped up next to me and kept clawing and biting at me until I finally turned it off towards the end of "Jellicle Songs for the-what-have-yous." Later on I picked it back up, and couldn't make it beyond Rum Tum Tugger before I just couldn't. This movie truly belongs in the theater, where you're more of a captive audience.
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Jan 28, 2020 23:23
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Awww come on, they pulled the growltiger fight scene from youtube over copyright. Glad you all saved the screencaps of the missing leg
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Jan 28, 2020 23:40
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If anyone wants to see Skimbleshanks the Railway Cat (the cat of the railway train) in another role, he was amazing in the filmed version of the Alice in Wonderland ballet. He plays the Mad Hatter who alone out of the main cast is a tapdancer which I think is a lovely little bit of character building. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kq8zqhqjUIo
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Jan 29, 2020 00:24
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Dumb Lowtax posted:Awww come on, they pulled the growltiger fight scene from youtube over copyright. Glad you all saved the screencaps of the missing leg Speaking of Growltiger. Here's the cut "Growl Tiger's Last Stand" song and dance number that was originally in the play in the 80s, but they cut it out in the 90s because the Siamese Cats are referred to as "chinks" and have racist Chinese accents. https://youtu.be/QIlhJMyqdgU
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Jan 29, 2020 01:32
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Ccs posted:Guys, they all have perfect human hands. It’s fur to the wrists, then hands. That’s the style. It’s not one of the vfx mistakes. Her feet are just hidden behind a plank or some other kind of elevated thing. It’s just that the elevated part is the same color as the part that she’s standing on so it’s hard to tell for sure.
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Jan 29, 2020 01:34
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Gianthogweed posted:Speaking of Growltiger. Here's the cut "Growl Tiger's Last Stand" song and dance number that was originally in the play in the 80s, but they cut it out in the 90s because the Siamese Cats are referred to as "chinks" and have racist Chinese accents. Wow, this clip shows two performances on two different years taped back to back. By the second clip the Growltiger laugh got invented, for one. The outfits and choreography changed. It's insane how much the play changed every year. (and no one ever thought to remove the racist stuff, lol)
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Jan 29, 2020 02:27
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Ccs posted:Guys, they all have perfect human hands. It’s fur to the wrists, then hands. That’s the style. It’s not one of the vfx mistakes. No, in the original version, the fur rendering stopped at her wrists like an open sleevehole.
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Jan 29, 2020 03:09
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Dumb Lowtax posted:Wow, this clip shows two performances on two different years taped back to back. By the second clip the Growltiger laugh got invented, for one. The outfits and choreography changed. It's insane how much the play changed every year. It really wasn't until the 90s that people started caring about that stuff. Remember that Song of the South was re-released in theaters in the 80s.
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Jan 29, 2020 10:01
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Gianthogweed posted:It really wasn't until the 90s that white mainstream people started caring about that stuff. Remember that Song of the South was re-released in theaters in the 80s. fixed Happy Thread fucked around with this message at 10:25 on Jan 29, 2020 |
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Jan 29, 2020 10:15
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Oh! Well I never have I ev-oops
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Jan 29, 2020 10:24
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Bogus Adventure posted:Tag yourselves. I'm the whiskers on just one side of her face
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Jan 29, 2020 15:34
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This Aint Cats XXX
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Jan 29, 2020 22:07
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TremorX posted:I've been trying to watch that screener now for days and man is it hard to get through. My typically very chill cat jumped up next to me and kept clawing and biting at me until I finally turned it off towards the end of "Jellicle Songs for the-what-have-yous." Later on I picked it back up, and couldn't make it beyond Rum Tum Tugger before I just couldn't. This movie truly belongs in the theater, where you're more of a captive audience. I’m genuinely nervous about this being my feelings as well when I give it a home go
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Jan 29, 2020 22:13
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I love Mistoffelees' face, lmao
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Jan 29, 2020 22:17
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They didn't just straightwash Mistoffelees, but every single male cat comes off as a straight incel in the new one Oh wait except Skimble
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Jan 29, 2020 22:19
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Dumb Lowtax posted:They didn't just straightwash Mistoffelees, but every single male cat comes off as a straight incel in the new one I know you're not talking about Skimble
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Jan 29, 2020 22:20
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Absolutely no one in Cats knows what loving is, but goddamn it, they'll find away around that roadblock in any way they can. Except Skimbleshanks. Skimbleshanks fucks. There's a shot near the end of the movie where I'm 90% sure it's a male cat lovingly feeding James Cordon and that's pretty much as far as it goes in the possibility of some gay-rear end cats.
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Jan 29, 2020 22:25
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What's the over/under on the number of Bustopher Jones food fetish & feeder fanfics?
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Jan 29, 2020 22:35
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We need more gifs from this leak.
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Jan 30, 2020 01:49
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just another posted:What's the over/under on the number of Bustopher Jones food fetish & feeder fanfics? Doesn't he in film puke some food onto someone? We're already canonically in 2 Cats, 1 Cup territory.
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Jan 30, 2020 02:42
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The David Lynch short film What Did Jack Do wherein David Lynch interrogates a talking monkey about a murder is on Netflix now, it is waaaaaaaaay better than Cats, and it's even a fair comparison! It has a musical number and a similar intentional pastichization of language.
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Jan 30, 2020 02:42
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I forget now if they changed the lyrics, but they just change wives to lives for Old Deuteronomy's song? As a tom, he had 99 wives.
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Jan 30, 2020 03:56
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finally saw cats. it was with friends and one of them didn't realize it was the movie because she thought i meant the musical, then it turns out she knew nothing of the movie and saw none of the trailers, and then asked me "do they wear cat ears or something?" she did enjoy the movie, although she made a lot of very verbal confused noises in the first half because just accepted the insanity. i had to pee during gandalf's bit so i missed his ending but made it back in time for skimbleshanks
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Jan 30, 2020 09:33
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https://twitter.com/jenyamato/status/1222186642884067328?s=19
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Jan 30, 2020 10:32
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Neo Rasa posted:The David Lynch short film What Did Jack Do wherein David Lynch interrogates a talking monkey about a murder is on Netflix now, it is waaaaaaaaay better than Cats, and it's even a fair comparison! It has a musical number and a similar intentional pastichization of language. I watched this two nights ago and came away with the district feeling that the monkey's lines were from some chat bot.
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Jan 30, 2020 17:07
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Is there an audio recording of the 98 video cast like there was for the Broadway cast?
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Jan 30, 2020 21:52
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TTBF posted:Is there an audio recording of the 98 video cast like there was for the Broadway cast? Looks like the answer is yes - google chucked up this spotify link, no idea if it works for folk. https://open.spotify.com/playlist/18aktWHOPbFQKVe5ZUPzoX e: Wait that doesn't sound like the Jellylorum I know. This may be a filthy lie.
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Jan 30, 2020 21:58
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HopperUK posted:Looks like the answer is yes - google chucked up this spotify link, no idea if it works for folk. That’s the 83 Broadway recording. I don’t think a recorded version of the 98 one exists, although I’d be hype if it did ‘cause they always cut my favourite part from all of the albums (the Pekes and Pollicles song) 
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Jan 30, 2020 22:11
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ikr, why can't the two catchiest songs just be less racist enough to be able to sing them out loud?
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Jan 30, 2020 22:19
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Surely it'd be simplicity itself to cut out the three or four stupid Orientalist lines from the Pekes and the Pollicles so we could still get to see cats pretending to be dogs having a stupid fight.
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Jan 30, 2020 22:20
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Yeah I think in newer productions that song replaces the Growltiger song (which is a lot harder to salvage, woof) and they edited the few racist lines in it. I really thought it was going to be in the movie right after Gus’ song bc they’re on a stage, but, nope SKIM BLE SHANKS
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Jan 30, 2020 22:31
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TOO MANY GOBLINS posted:Yeah I think in newer productions that song replaces the Growltiger song (which is a lot harder to salvage, woof) and they edited the few racist lines in it. I really thought it was going to be in the movie right after Gus’ song bc they’re on a stage, but, nope Pekes and Pollicles was in the original version of the play. I remember seeing it as a kid back in the 80s. It wasn't on the original soundtrack though because there wasn't enough space on the vinyl. I think they moved it to Act II and replaced Growl Tiger's Last Stand in the newer version of the play and Gus sings it now instead of Munkustrap.
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Jan 30, 2020 22:48
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Just thinking about when Skimbleshanks spins so fast he rockets into the sky and disappears into dust. Good evening, friends.
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Jan 30, 2020 22:54
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Gianthogweed posted:Pekes and Pollicles was in the original version of the play. I remember seeing it as a kid back in the 80s. It wasn't on the original soundtrack though because there wasn't enough space on the vinyl. I think they moved it to Act II and replaced Growl Tiger's Last Stand in the newer version of the play and Gus sings it now instead of Munkustrap. Yeah that’s why I thought they’d go into it instead of Growltiger, what with Gus already being up on the stage. I always thought the trash costumes they wore during that part of the show were really cute, plus it’s catchy as gently caress. It’s a shame Gus sings it tho and not Munkustrap, my fave part of the 98 version is watching him slowly lose his mind while the others fail to follow his instructions. He has big “theatre kid on opening night” energy and it’s hilarious 
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Jan 30, 2020 22:55
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I've seen one version where Gus performs 'The Pekes and the Pollicles' as written but Munkustrap has an 'oh god grandpa is being racist again' reaction and tries to shuffle him off the stage. Really rather they'd rewrite it.
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Jan 30, 2020 23:21
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YggiDee posted:I've seen one version where Gus performs 'The Pekes and the Pollicles' as written but Munkustrap has an 'oh god grandpa is being racist again' reaction and tries to shuffle him off the stage. Really rather they'd rewrite it. Haha, that's actually a pretty clever way of getting away with it. Andrew Lloyd Weber took the 1935 poems he read over and over again as a kid and adapted them to lyrics with very little changes to the words keeping all of the pre-WWII orientalism intact. I think he's a bit of purest when it comes to those poems and resists changing the words no matter how offensive they've become.
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YggiDee posted:I've seen one version where Gus performs 'The Pekes and the Pollicles' as written but Munkustrap has an 'oh god grandpa is being racist again' reaction and tries to shuffle him off the stage. Really rather they'd rewrite it. I dunno, I don't hate this. It recontextualizes the problematic element into a problematic character trait that the work as a whole no longer endorses. If you're gonna keep it as written, this is probably genuinely the best option.
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