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nerox posted:Maybe he means Garland would be the only VP that the house would confirm, as a piece of obstructionist performance art by the Democratic House. Bingo
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https://twitter.com/CBSThisMorning/status/1222267004457029633 collins seems about as firm on this as it gets
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# ? Jan 28, 2020 22:19 |
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https://twitter.com/Amy_Siskind/status/1222254226635620354 yeah. i think we will see witnesses.
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# ? Jan 28, 2020 22:21 |
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do not believe her lies
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# ? Jan 28, 2020 22:21 |
Dapper_Swindler posted:https://twitter.com/Amy_Siskind/status/1222254226635620354 the funny thing here is that the number is so high in part because the framing includes republicans who want Hunter to be subpoenaed
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# ? Jan 28, 2020 22:22 |
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eke out posted:the funny thing here is that the number is so high in part because the framing includes republicans who want Hunter to be subpoenaed sure but gently caress if i care.
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# ? Jan 28, 2020 22:23 |
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haveblue posted:As per the 25th Amendment (the boring part that isn't about the President dying or going nuts) a replacement VP has to be confirmed by both houses, so that would be a fun fight. ah gotcha. well it wouldn’t be their nightmare scenario of president pelosi but imagine getting both houses to agree on the replacement knowing full-well that they’d ultimately become prez.
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# ? Jan 28, 2020 22:36 |
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eke out posted:https://twitter.com/CBSThisMorning/status/1222267004457029633 Susan "Van Pelt" Collins holds the football once again.
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# ? Jan 28, 2020 22:37 |
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Knowing the House Dems they'd do something completely pants like replace Pelosi with Hillary Clinton the day before Pence is removed to get "their" President in office, motivating a billion superchuds to elect Tom Cotton in 2024.
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# ? Jan 28, 2020 22:38 |
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When did Dershowitz turn into a chud? Did he get infected with Guiliani's brainworms?
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# ? Jan 28, 2020 22:39 |
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https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-impeachment-trial-01-28-20/index.html posted:What they are saying now: Republicans are now arguing that the latest reports — that former national security adviser John Bolton’s book manuscript reveals that Trump told him in August that he was withholding $391 million in aid until Ukraine announced a probe into the Bidens – are likely true but simply confirm what is already known. This is astonishing to me, literally since the story first broke as I've been following it: - Trump was not soliciting political favors on that phone call. It was a perfect call. - Ok, sure, maybe he was soliciting personal favors on that phone call, but there is no evidence he was pressuring Ukraine. - Ok, yes, we can accept that he was pressuring ukraine, but there is no evidence that he was actively withholding aid to that end. - Look, sure, we have already accepted that he was actively withholding aid to increase pressure on Ukraine to solicit personal political favors. Wait, that's what this is all about? edit; - he didn't do it - ok he did it but it wasn't that bad - ok yeah he did it and it was exactly as bad as it sounded but this is ok
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# ? Jan 28, 2020 22:41 |
abigserve posted:This is astonishing to me, literally since the story first broke as I've been following it: OK sure, the president committed documented crimes, but the PHONE CALL is what is on trial here
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# ? Jan 28, 2020 22:44 |
Kurieg posted:"I name Donald Trump wearing a fake mustache as my new VP" Appropriate considering this is basically what Russia has been doing for the last 20+ years, only without the fake mustache. e: gently caress, I should learn to refresh before posting.
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# ? Jan 28, 2020 22:44 |
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abigserve posted:This is astonishing to me, literally since the story first broke as I've been following it: Yeah, the defense has always been "This is bad but doesn't rise to the level of high crimes and misdemeanors" which has only become more and more insane as more details are revealed.
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Bubbacub posted:When did Dershowitz turn into a chud? Did he get infected with Guiliani's brainworms? When he realized only Republicans were willing to go to bat for a pedophile, I think
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https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/28/trump-praises-pompeo-npr-confrontation-107754 Trump praises Pompeo for totally getting owned in that NPR interview with Mary Louise Kelly and throwing a tantrum and spreading lies about her to cover up just how badly she owned him
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# ? Jan 28, 2020 23:17 |
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abigserve posted:- he didn't do it Oh wait, I have: quote:A Narcissist's Prayer
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# ? Jan 28, 2020 23:27 |
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abigserve posted:
Every Trump scandal has five phases: 1) It didn’t happen 2) Okay, it DID happen, but Trump didn’t do it. 3) Okay, it happened, and Trump DID do it, but it wasn’t bad. 4) Okay, it happened, Trump did it, and it WAS VERY BAD, but other people also do bad things, so... 5) Hillary Clinton It’s infuriating to me that the press doesn’t ever seem to catch on to this.
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# ? Jan 28, 2020 23:31 |
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Cheesus posted:I can't place where I've heard that before. Why is that so loving painfully accurate and why do I know so many people who think like that
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Framboise posted:Why is that so loving painfully accurate and why do I know so many people who think like that Because the world is loving full of narcissistic assholes.
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# ? Jan 28, 2020 23:43 |
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Obama 2012 posted:Every Trump scandal has five phases: There needs to be a "The Democrats are going CRAAAAAAAAAAAZY and being so unfair to me? Presidential Harassment! Worst in history! You hate to see it!" in there somewhere. Probably after step 5. Trump cannot settle for like that almost defeat way of looking at things in a whataboutism sense like Putin can so it has to be twisted around by the end of the narrative such that really he's the victim for enduring such unfair criticism. Also it's not necessarily Hillary Clinton anymore, it's whoever he perceives as his greatest political foe of the moment. In 2016 it was definitely Hillary Clinton. In 2017 it was John McCain. In 2018 it was Robert Mueller, in 2019 it was Nancy Pelosi and right now it's Adam Schiff. In a few more months it'll be whoever the Democratic Presidential nominee is.
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# ? Jan 28, 2020 23:46 |
https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1222290702857592833 (this just broke and they haven't added any more details than the headline, so if you don't have WSJ access you aren't missing much right now)
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# ? Jan 28, 2020 23:51 |
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And before someone posts that LA Times article in here, Feinstein already put out a statement saying they misunderstood what she said and that she is voting to convict https://twitter.com/SenFeinstein/st...r%3D143%23pti25
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# ? Jan 28, 2020 23:53 |
https://twitter.com/lindsaywise/status/1222288954663325698 the democratic strategy of "no quid pro quo for witnesses"... appears to be paying off completely so far, considering they've given away nothing yet and already won the threshold issue
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No Safe Word posted:was not approved by both houses? what's your argument here? I am trying to think of who the Republicans can nominate that would be able to get through. They don't have much in the moderate camp anymore, especially that could survive the House. If McCain were alive I could see him. I assume they would need to nominate someone who wouldn't want to run beyond that as well since I would think they would want to get someone more to the right to run. Granted they don't have much there either. It would be one thing that I could see them not wanting to pull any bullshit with since the House could just block them and they would ultimately be forced with President Pelosi which would be enough to get them to play ball.
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# ? Jan 28, 2020 23:59 |
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wow, should be a fun week after all. Does that mean that the GOPs in the Senate have to actually plan for the possibility that they need to boot Trump?
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# ? Jan 29, 2020 00:00 |
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stop fantasizing about Pence getting the boot too. They'll pin it all on trump if they go down that road. There will be no replacement VP either IMO
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# ? Jan 29, 2020 00:01 |
oxsnard posted:wow, should be a fun week after all. Does that mean that the GOPs in the Senate have to actually plan for the possibility that they need to boot Trump? woah there hold your horses even if things go maximally bad the worst case scenario for trump is like "52-55 people vote to convict, 10+ short of what's required to remove"
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Here is the article. quote:
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eke out posted:woah there hold your horses I don't think there's anything that will get them to convict unless it was a secret ballot. He could literally shoot John Bolton on 5th avenue and it wouldn't matter.
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eke out posted:woah there hold your horses
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I think WSJ jumped the gun on this. https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/1222294591447105541 YET doing a lot of work here.
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# ? Jan 29, 2020 00:10 |
Tibalt posted:Yeah, I wouldn't count on Trump getting removed until you see Graham, McConnell and Paul talking about removal. Those are the sort of votes you need to get to 67. yeah it's just not happening. i think we can safely rule that possibility out, while acknowledging the low-but-theoretically-possible chance that he loses a few votes overall ShutteredIn posted:I think WSJ jumped the gun on this. imo the issue is: things aren't going to get better over the next 48 hours. they are going to get hosed in questioning, and Schiff is going to look a hell of a lot better than Trump's clowns when they're side-by-side
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# ? Jan 29, 2020 00:11 |
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Tibalt posted:Yeah, I wouldn't count on Trump getting removed until you see Graham, McConnell and Paul talking about removal. Those are the sort of votes you need to get to 67. yeah. i highly doubt he will be removed. my hope is that we have witnesses and poo poo gets worse for the GOP loving them in novemember. my secret hope is they try to get pisslord to step down and he screams publicly about it.
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# ? Jan 29, 2020 00:14 |
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To be clear, I think there's no way in hell he gets removed. But the Bolton testimony means there's a risk something incredibly damning comes out
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Dapper_Swindler posted:yeah. i highly doubt he will be removed. my hope is that we have witnesses and poo poo gets worse for the GOP loving them in novemember. my secret hope is they try to get pisslord to step down and he screams publicly about it. Yeah my secret hope is diaper boy gets removed from office then is immediately arrested by the SDNY, who then release his tax returns and we can all collectively heal by laughing at what a broke dipshit he is, and what rubes his moron acolytes are. E: I also wonder if the GOPers are realizing that every single day it will always get worse, there will be a new bombshell every day until the end of time. This impeachment is their chance to mash the Betray button and save themselves. I would bet on them choosing self-preservation over going down with the trump Hindenburg, and the odds get better every day. red19fire fucked around with this message at 00:27 on Jan 29, 2020 |
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oxsnard posted:To be clear, I think there's no way in hell he gets removed. But the Bolton testimony means there's a risk something incredibly damning comes out i think that and it would open the flood gates, bad poo poo would flow out and these rats would eat each other to save themselves. i think one of the better outcomes is them trying to push trump to resign and it turns into an GOP civil war shitshow. Edit: the smart ones are. if Bolton is damning enough and names names. alot of the former/current white house chuds will either leap to stab him or cling on to his mushroom cock tighter. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 00:31 on Jan 29, 2020 |
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red19fire posted:Yeah my secret hope is diaper boy gets removed from office then is immediately arrested by the SDNY, who then release his tax returns and we can all collectively heal by laughing at what a broke dipshit he is, and what rubes his moron acolytes are. Good news, we can do this part already
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https://twitter.com/burgessev/status/1222296901451755520 So yeah, not a done deal yet.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:yeah. i highly doubt he will be removed. my hope is that we have witnesses and poo poo gets worse for the GOP loving them in novemember. my secret hope is they try to get pisslord to step down and he screams publicly about it. Eh. If Bolton goes the way it is looking like it will implicate senior leadership in the White House. It will go from what it currently is to something much wider and harder to control and/or hand wave away. I am sure the number one worry would be Pence as if he is named, which he likely will be, it takes the security blanket away. This is now going to drug out from days to likely weeks at best as well. Public perception will shift somewhat and Trump will turn on GOP Senators. McConnell just lost control of his caucus. That means you will likely see more GOP Senators stop towing the line, especially ones in tougher states which will give a lot more cover. Big things to watch for. 1: If Trump starts openly attacking the GOP Senators. 2: If the GOP Senators break from the White House talking points. 3: If the media coverage, especially on the Right (IE Fox News) shifts. If any of the above happen it means that there is a rift forming between the two. It ultimately my not be enough votes for removal. By my count there is at least 12 Senators that can not or will not budge. If any case this all got real, real interesting.
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