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Half of the council are former X villains. Hell Shaw isn’t even the worst!
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twistedmentat posted:I hate that I missed there was a new Gwenpool series. I'm not sure how that happened. I guess I must have missed that previews or something?
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Half of the council are former X villains. Hell Shaw isn’t even the worst! Yeah, but only he and Mr. Sinister always have to be such dicks about it.
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Jan 28, 2020 23:01
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Nessus posted:I assume Shaw has an enormous bench of contacts and networking with the business community, and given their ideology for Krakoa they can neither kill or permanently imprison him (unless he does an oopsie like Creed) nor do they want him on the outside fighting them, possibly out of spite. The fact they let him run around is pretty surprising. I am pretty sure killing other mutants either directly or hiring people to kill them would violate their laws too. Adder Moray posted:Yeah, but only he and Mr. Sinister always have to be such dicks about it. -:A:- is totally behaving.
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Jan 28, 2020 23:16
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twistedmentat posted:-:A:- is totally behaving. He's getting everything he's always wanted. Shaw isn't. But if he wasn't, he wouldn't be a dick about misbehaving. Unlike Shaw.
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Jan 28, 2020 23:38
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twistedmentat posted:Anyways, why do they keep bring Shaw back into the fold? He always betrays everyone for his own goals. Unless this is some masterful manipulation by Emma. The rationale seems to be, basically, "We need to get the Hellfire Trading Company up and running ASAFP and there's no one better at the shady side of the operation than Sebastian Shaw. With anyone else it will take time to make connections and get operations moving, and we can't afford that because our entire plan is based on the notion that everyone is going to want our Awesome Mutant Drugs, which means we need to actually get those Awesome Mutant Drugs into peoples' hands before the whole edifice starts to crumble. So we'll take the risk of working with Shaw and trust that Emma and Kitty will be able to keep him in check." Which makes a kind of sense, really.
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I mean, technically he still hasn't broken a law. They never made murdering other mutants into a law, after all. v vEven when Kate returns, she won't actually know that it was Shaw who killed her unless Xavier had made a replica of her brain the literal minute it started to happen.
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Jan 28, 2020 23:54
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BrianWilly posted:I mean, technically he still hasn't broken a law. They never made murdering other mutants into a law, after all. v She might not know but she'll have a pretty good loving idea.
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BrianWilly posted:I mean, technically he still hasn't broken a law. They never made murdering other mutants into a law, after all. v Unless she is in fact not a mutant.
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Aphrodite posted:Unless she is in fact not a mutant. That would be pretty out of left field. She's been a mutant character forever.
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BrianWilly posted:I mean, technically he still hasn't broken a law. They never made murdering other mutants into a law, after all. v Lockheed will remember.
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wiegieman posted:That would be pretty out of left field. She's been a mutant character forever. To be fair Moira was a human forever too, to the point where her specific non-mutant status was a plot point (Legacy Virus.)
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I don't know why the characters think someone's humanity has anything to do at all with using the gates. Humans can enter the gates and do so all the time. Skwirl posted:She might not know but she'll have a pretty good loving idea.
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There have been a couple of stories over the years implying Kitty wasn't a mutant too.BrianWilly posted:I don't know why the characters think someone's humanity has anything to do at all with using the gates. Humans can enter the gates and do so all the time. Humans need to be cleared. Mutants just works.
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Aphrodite posted:There have been a couple of stories over the years implying Kitty wasn't a mutant too. Huh, I'm curious about this. Which ones?
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BrianWilly posted:I don't know why the characters think someone's humanity has anything to do at all with using the gates. Humans can enter the gates and do so all the time. I think they said it's done at least weekly for all mutants, she's on the council and in Excalibur it was implied they were doing near constant backups of those people when -A- came back after letting Rogue absorb all of his powers.
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Aphrodite posted:Humans need to be cleared. Mutants just works. BrianWilly fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Jan 29, 2020 |
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I haven't read these stories so I can't vouch for quality. I've just seen them references in discussions. X-Men volume 2 #100 Claremont very clearly makes her to be from a species called the Neo. That idiot got dropped by future writers. This is 2000s Claremont so it's probably junk. Hunt for Wolverine had Iron Man say one of the X-Men is a sleeper agent that's not really a mutant but genetically modified. That one didn't imply anyone specific though.
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is there anything about the resurrection process that precludes bringing back a non-mutant
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Parallax posted:is there anything about the resurrection process that precludes bringing back a non-mutant Not they've said.
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Parallax posted:is there anything about the resurrection process that precludes bringing back a non-mutant The only thing would be a backup AFAIK.
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ok after having read Marauders has there been a single instance within the new status quo that a writer has used death in an interesting way
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Krakoa is probably not letting Kate enter until she's honest with everyone and admits her feelings for Racheal.
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Parallax posted:ok after having read Marauders has there been a single instance within the new status quo that a writer has used death in an interesting way Excalibur, arguably.
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Oh, and House of X #1 dropped on Marvel Unlimited.
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twistedmentat posted:Krakoa is probably not letting Kate enter until she's honest with everyone and admits her feelings for Racheal. The list Xavier had Cipher give Krakoa says "Kitty Pryde" and Krakoa doesn't understand human naming conventions. Everyone is embarrassed.
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Aphrodite posted:The list Xavier had Cipher give Krakoa says "Kitty Pryde" and Krakoa doesn't understand human naming conventions. Krakoa needs to learn how not to dead name people.
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Parallax posted:ok after having read Marauders has there been a single instance within the new status quo that a writer has used death in an interesting way quentin quire getting decapitated is very interesting to me, at least
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Alaois posted:quentin quire getting decapitated is very interesting to me, at least I liked how half a Wolverine was nearly as dangerous as a whole Wolverine.
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twistedmentat posted:I liked how half a Wolverine was nearly as dangerous as a whole Wolverine. Just a little slower, is all.
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New Mutants was pretty good, but bouncing back and forth when arcs aren't even done is going to get a little old.
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Yeah I don't mind the two different stories, but I'm not a fan of constant jumping between them. X-force was cool and I'm definitely on board with it. X-men was amazing and I absolutely need to see the rest of this plot play out.
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X-Force is doing the always cool thing of making Beast a smug rear end in a top hat who ends up being wrong.
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Always five moves ahead.
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Small detail I liked: Synch's costume being an homage to Generation X uniforms with the red coloring and, yellow knee-high boots, and X logo on the wrist.
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So did Xavier set up his own assassination as a casus belli for Krakoa? That's messed up, I wonder if he knew they were going to cut up Domino to do it.
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Nothing certain one way or another. All we know is that Xavier knew he had to die in order to truly finalize the Krakoan nation's resolve, and he in fact hoped that he would. But the narration also made it seem like he didn't actually know when and how he would die, so it's still a bit of a stretch to imagine that he literally hired people to kill himself. X-Force is definitely an interesting book. It's really not the normal sort of series I'd be reading but it just kinda finds a way to make itself work. Yeah, Beast is such a dipshit...but it works. (He also describes an orchestra like someone who has no idea how an orchestra actually plays, but hey it still...works?) Percy's take on Jean is also kinda keeping me on the book. She's not as...friendly?...as Jean usually is, but that's actually workable as well because not only do these situations warrant that, it's also 100% preferable to Hickman's bizarro greenhorn Jean. Like yes, Jean would absolutely call people out on patronizing her, and she can and will literally disintegrate a fucker just by thinking about it. She should absolutely have a bit of a temper, even unreasonably. So I do like that these things happen here...but I also wish, because I'm a spoiled X-fan, that I could also see Jean in other situations and books where she's allowed her actual range. But not in a wrong way, because then I'm gonna complain about that too. 
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Yeah I don’t think Xavier planned anything. He just knew he needed to die (at least once) for everything to really fall in place so he was morbidly welcoming to any assassination attempt. And for all the hosed things X-Force is dealing, they kinda pale in what Xavier sent Wolverine and crew to do. Resurrection notwithstanding, getting people to sign off on a blind trip to hostile territory which could last centuries if not longer is loving insane to me. The concept of the vault as a sort of mirror to the The World was pretty cool and I’m looking forward to seeing Hickman explore that but gently caress, I wasn’t even aware Darwin could live that long.
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