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So Palpatine ran a sex cult for 30 years? Movie was a lot better than I thought!
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QuarkJets posted:I finally saw this movie Did it look cool? Does is sound cool to a 15 year old? That’s all JJ cared about.
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Jan 29, 2020 01:31
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QuarkJets posted:So Palpatine ran a sex cult for 30 years? Movie was a lot better than I thought! i mean at this point in my life? yeah i might join a sex cult that builds spaceships. kinda sounds like a good time?
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Jan 29, 2020 02:25
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I remember being hyped for TFA, being sleep deprived as I shuffled into a 1am showing, and marking out when Kylo Vader used the force to stop a blaster bolt in mid air. Why couldn't anything (other than the HOLDO MANEUVER) be as good?
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Jan 29, 2020 04:09
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Hillary 2020 posted:They're the Sith Eternal cult and they made all the Sith Star Destroyers and hosed like rabbits so there were enough Sith Troopers in the Sith Eternal Army to crew them. jesus this was way dumber than just having them be spoopy dark side ghosts. and I dunno, automated shipyards or something. it would explain why they need the first order - it has live troops and crews to form the kernel of a new empire
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Jan 29, 2020 05:38
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I bet Palpatine's message was just trying to recruit more people to the sex cult but of course the prudish resistance had to put a stop to that You all know that the big robot arm was holding him up by the rear end in a top hat
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Jan 29, 2020 05:56
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What kind of forms did they have people fill on joining the sex/spaceship cult?
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Jan 29, 2020 06:50
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https://twitter.com/JennyENicholson/status/1222380235749916672?s=20
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Jan 29, 2020 06:58
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I feel like they could have done a lot with that. Like maybe Palpatine's death caused a schism, with part of the empire being loyal to Snoke as a successor to his ideology and the Eastern Galactic Empire not willing to accept any supreme leader that isn't Palpatine. You can still have the whole offscreen conflict with Jakku, only this time it leads to that second faction disappearing (with most people assuming they just disbanded) and then have that be the source of the secret army that Palpatine has when the First Order rejoins.
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Jan 29, 2020 19:49
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The only bad thing about the trilogy is the screenplay. The casting and production value and acting is all good. It’s just the story was poo poo.
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Jan 30, 2020 00:40
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much like mythbusters they prooved you can indeed polish a turd to an almost mirror sheen.
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Jan 30, 2020 00:46
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TK-42-1 posted:The only bad thing about the trilogy is the screenplay. The casting and production value and acting is all good. It’s just the story was poo poo. Can't really argue with this. It's the script. Casting: fine Acting: pretty good, actually Effects: great as usual Script: rear end and balls
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Jan 30, 2020 00:53
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Chomp8645 posted:Can't really argue with this. It's the script. I found the effects pretty lackluster. They looked to be about 5-10 years behind Rogue One, but then again having someone who knows what to do behind a camera helps.
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Jan 30, 2020 01:00
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For all we know the original screenplays were all great.
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Jan 30, 2020 01:02
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Blistex posted:I found the effects pretty lackluster. They looked to be about 5-10 years behind Rogue One, but then again having someone who knows what to do behind a camera helps. Rogue One has much better art direction than the JJ movies. TLJ’s a bit better on that front too. I don’t think there’s a big technical gulf between any of the movies’ effects.
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Jan 30, 2020 01:06
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I think the art direction in the sequels is pretty bad and the editing of TFA remains way too breathless for no reason.
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Jan 30, 2020 01:19
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That’s JJ’s style. If people are constantly shouting and running and never stop finding revelations, a decent percentage of people watching the movie come out of it feeling like something happened. They’ll all realize it sucked a week later but that’s fine, they already made their money.
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Jan 30, 2020 01:53
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My experience was literally going in with deliberately lowered expectations, "turning my brain off." And it was fine as just star wars images and scenes washing over me. But my brain is an important organ I can't leave turned off forever and once I left the theater and started trying to contextualize it as a coherent story, worse as a capstone to a trilogy, worse as the capstone to a trilogy of trilogies, the illusion fell apart. Owlbear Camus fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Jan 30, 2020 |
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Jan 30, 2020 02:01
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jj trek was good in that all the frenetic movement was toward a coherent goal. it showed the type of oh poo poo reactions that it warranted. same with mission impossible 3. it was all towards a coherent goal. everything else has just been movement towards ??? and doesn’t carry the same weight.
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Jan 30, 2020 02:50
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Owlbear Camus posted:My experience was literally going in with deliberately lowered expectations, "turning my brain off." And it was fine as just star wars images and scenes washing over me. I did the same, I just wanted something fun and dumb like The Force Awakens, but I didn't even manage 30 minutes before I realized how colossal a cinematic trainwreck was unfolding onscreen.
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Jan 30, 2020 02:59
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skasion posted:Rogue One has much better art direction than the JJ movies. TLJ’s a bit better on that front too. I don’t think there’s a big technical gulf between any of the movies’ effects. That's exactly what I was trying to say. Not implying that ILM somehow did lovely CGI for TFA and ROS while doing amazing CGI for RO, but that JJ doesn't know (or care to) set up nice shots, instead opting for. . . poisonpill posted:That’s JJ’s style. If people are constantly shouting and running and never stop finding revelations, a decent percentage of people watching the movie come out of it feeling like something happened. They’ll all realize it sucked a week later but that’s fine, they already made their money.
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Jan 30, 2020 04:27
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I liked Solo for much the same reason. You can argue about its basic essentiality but at least it looked and felt like a Star Wars movie.
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Jan 30, 2020 04:35
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Owlbear Camus posted:My experience was literally going in with deliberately lowered expectations, "turning my brain off." And it was fine as just star wars images and scenes washing over me. This is about where I'm at. 
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Jan 30, 2020 06:01
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Sounds like you are too sober for starwars son. I saw TFA in theaters while pretty high and also drunk and I didn't recall anything bad about the film until much later review on Netflix. Better life thru chemistry.
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Jan 30, 2020 06:17
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I do find it funny that people think splitting TROS into two movies would somehow save the narrative. It will still be your lovely Palpatine story just told slightly more coherently.
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Jan 30, 2020 12:10
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halokiller posted:I do find it funny that people think splitting TROS into two movies would somehow save the narrative. It will still be your lovely Palpatine story just told slightly more coherently. If you tell a really bad story a little slower, it makes it better don't you know.  The entire premise(s) of the new trilogy was(were) fundamentally bad, and I don't think there would have been a way to redeem it. You'd have to literally start with an entirely new story to even have a chance of making a good trilogy. The fact that this thread had people spitball ideas within minutes of being prompted that were orders of magnitude better than anything we have seen in the NT seems to be .
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Jan 30, 2020 17:01
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TFA was an okay if "play it safe" launch with great, likable characters with good chemistry. It missed some opportunities but would have been redeemed by a less divisive second act that did a little more worldbuilding and a third act that actually, you know, followed naturally as a payoff to anything that had come in the prior 9 films, or even the prior 2.
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Jan 30, 2020 17:09
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TFA is terrible and should never have been made
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Jan 30, 2020 17:22
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skasion posted:TFA is terrible and should never have been made The Force Awakens is fine. A nice safe movie is pretty acceptable considering the general assumption was that it was going to be a trainwreck, so being able to say "look, we can make a Star Wars film" is an okay outcome. Rise of Skywalker, however, is a complete burning trash pile that never should've been signed off on, let alone made.
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Jan 30, 2020 17:24
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skasion posted:TFA is terrible and should never have been made Nah But also, 
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Jan 30, 2020 17:29
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TFA and/or TLJ should have featured a passionate same sex romance and sex scene between those 2 characters who don't do anything really
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Jan 30, 2020 18:24
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Finn Poe romance would have redeemed TLJ for sure
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Jan 30, 2020 19:07
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release the fan recut that's just 2.5 hours of deepfaked finn and poe loving e: leave in the intro text scroll and the lesbian kiss at the end e2: also the brief shot with the sad porgs Best Bi Geek Squid fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Jan 30, 2020 |
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Jan 30, 2020 19:29
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Neddy Seagoon posted:The Force Awakens is fine. A nice safe movie is pretty acceptable considering the general assumption was that it was going to be a trainwreck, so being able to say "look, we can make a Star Wars film" is an okay outcome. It wasn't fine It was lazy and completely creatively bankrupt. They regurgitated the old movies
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Jan 30, 2020 19:40
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Fartbox posted:It wasn't fine
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Jan 30, 2020 19:44
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I think it was a B, B- effort that did the minimum legwork to establish the characters. A lot of it rests on the shoulders of some truly outstanding performances and great chemistry. Put me in the writers room and some of my script doctoring would be, in rough order of severity of changes: Give Phasma a closer mentor relationship to Finn. Make her Tr-8r. Lean into the Poe Finn romance. The actors have great chemistry and you get max woke points. Chinese peasants don't watch Star Wars movies anyway. Add some beats that make Finn's origin and defection matter as more than just a way to deliver exposition about SK base. Hux and Kylo wonder aloud if his defection will lead to others, and maybe a smattering of that happens or is referenced with a throwaway line. Don't do Starkiller base. Explore a different geopolitical dynamic than Empire vs. Rebels 2.0 Featuring Planet Scale Superweapons. Turn it into a smaller stakes combined arms ground/air/space battle for the Resistance Base. You can still keep a lot of the same beats (Solo's Death, Kylo vs. Finn-Rey endurance match). Do some worldbuilding with brief exposition scenes around that establishes the FO is a Hermit rump state that the Republic is too war weary to bother with and sees as Leia's irrational bugbear. Instead of the stakes being a planet exploding, make them more intimate: troopers kill a likable supporting character. Poe races to do some close air support to save Finn from being overrun in the ground assault. Failing that at least don't just introduce it at the end of the second act without anything resembling real setup.
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Jan 30, 2020 19:56
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Auralnauts have returned with ya boy Ben Solo https://youtu.be/EeRyfOtpc8Y
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Jan 30, 2020 20:18
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What if you make Starkiller base a fakeout? Play off the audience’s expectations and make the whole thing a bluff that gets the resistance to send their fleet halfway across the galaxy to an empty base while the the First Order blitzkriegs the Republic capitol or something. They have the iconography and reputation of the empire but they don’t have the resources, do something with that. E: maybe that gives Finn something to do in the sequels. Instead of being a celebrated hero, he’s on the outs because he got fooled into feeding bad intel to the resistance so now he’s gotta redeem himself somehow.
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Jan 30, 2020 20:46
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https://twitter.com/Riri19911/status/1222988286681063424?s=20 Hope they put both endings in the blu-ray
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Jan 30, 2020 22:46
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that would have been way better I would watch a kylo solo movie
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