Coronavirus 2020 - START MAKING VENTILATORS, NOW!!!!!!

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gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

TheDon01 posted:

https://twitter.com/ktva/status/1222338703495966721?s=19

why the gently caress are people flying out of Wuhan? It's just spreading the virus around!

# ? Jan 29, 2020 07:57

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# ? Jun 3, 2024 18:30

VomitOnLino: Jun 13, 2005; Sometimes I get lost.

gradenko_2000 posted:

why the gently caress are people flying out of Wuhan? It's just spreading the virus around!

Dude it can't be as bad as Japan. At least they're putting them in remote places.

Japan: Let's fly them into TOKYO and put them through the normal Narita airport and then ask them to kindly take the train home and not leave. Or take a car or stay in the hotel.
They also hospitalized 5 people that were apparently severely infected on the same flight.

I am NOT kidding. You can read it yourself here (use Google translate):

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20200129/k10012263331000.html?utm_int=detail_contents_news-related_001

loving YIKES.

# ? Jan 29, 2020 08:01

galenanorth: May 19, 2016

Lote posted:

There�s a confirmed case in Las Vegas now. Chinese gambler from Wuhan. the US is hosed.

maybe the gambler blew on the dice for good luck

# ? Jan 29, 2020 08:03

Grizzled Patriarch: Mar 27, 2014; These dentures won't stop me from tearing out jugulars in Thunderdome.

lmao its hard to think of a worse place for an infected person to be hanging out than at a vegas casino

# ? Jan 29, 2020 08:08

Zisky: May 6, 2003; PM me and I will show you my tits

Grizzled Patriarch posted:

lmao its hard to think of a worse place for an infected person to be hanging out than at a vegas casino

Yeah Narita is worse.

# ? Jan 29, 2020 08:18

Charlz Guybon: Nov 16, 2010

Lame

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1222419030730006528

# ? Jan 29, 2020 08:22

Sheng-Ji Yang: Mar 5, 2014

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1222417781985103872

# ? Jan 29, 2020 08:27

TheDon01: Mar 8, 2009

https://twitter.com/ktuubeth/status/1222409639871934464?s=19

It has arrived 😷

I think that other flight going to Cali is a different flight?

# ? Jan 29, 2020 08:29

Alehkhs: Oct 6, 2010; The Sorrow of Poets

From the GIS crowd:

https://twitter.com/GIS_Bandit/status/1222306345942020096

# ? Jan 29, 2020 08:49

Mantis42: Jul 26, 2010

At least a lot of the earlier reported cases outside China are doing well/recovering, according to this reddit post:

https://www.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/euvexx/current_status_of_outsidechina_patients/

# ? Jan 29, 2020 09:07

Jel Shaker: Apr 19, 2003

lol getting �evacuated� to an island where if you didn�t have the deadly virus already, you�re certainly going to get it when you start hanging out with hacking-up skeletal corpses

# ? Jan 29, 2020 09:22

FRINGE: May 23, 2003; title stolen for lf posting

Seemed worth grabbing.

https://www.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/eu7vsy/some_important_cultural_context/

quote:

Some important cultural context

Hello everybody! Like you, I have been glued to the news for the last few days. Like you, I'm not sure how bad this will be, but I fear it could be pretty bad. The news has been getting bad and looking worse very quickly.

But I think it's important to provide some cultural context for what you're seeing, to properly understand what is going on.

I lived in Chengdu, China for a couple years about a decade ago. I can't say I'm an expert, but I can provide some information that is missing for some people here.

First off, the Chinese people are susceptible to mass panics. They trust the word of the Chinese government even less than you do, so much information is transmitted through group chats or text forwards. These can race around a city at an utterly mind-boggling speed and cause huge reactions as rumors fly out of control. In my time I witnessed several.

The most pertinent examples occurred after to the 2008 Sichuan earthquake. While there was little damage to the city, there were an incredible number of aftershocks. In the four days after the earthquake alone, there were 4,400. In the week after the earthquake, the city went insane in a way I have never seen before or since. People truly thought the world was going to end.

People would line up daily at stores to buy tents so they could sleep outside, and a friend of mine witnessed two women fighting over the last one (like videos that have gotten out about women fighting over produce). Friends who were teachers said that parents were pulling their children from schools, going to the airport, and buying seats on the next flight out, wherever it went.

Minutes after one particularly strong aftershock, my friend's phone lit up. A building had collapsed and fallen into the river. My friend broke down from the stress of it all and the general sense of doom. (Note--it turned out no building actually collapsed). One day I heard a chemical plant had fallen into the city's reservoir, and that night I found a supermarket almost completely cleaned out of all drinks. I heard that at some point during the day, enough people had stopped using water that it messed with the water pressure for the whole city, and so water actually stopped flowing temporarily (though I didn't confirm this myself).

The wildest event happened a week after the quake. I was out eating dinner with friends late at night when we suddenly realized the street was utterly clogged with cars and people. Confused, we asked the waiter what was going on. He said that some official had gone on TV and predicted that there would be a large earthquake tomorrow. That's insane. You can't predict earthquakes. We turned on the TV in the restaurant but couldn't find anything--because it's insane. But somehow, EVERYBODY knew this. The whole goddamn city.

I have never been so bewildered in my life as my friends and I walked back to our local bar, witnessing every single street vendor rolling up their shop and dragging cots and blankets out to sleep on the sidewalk. Every street was a giant traffic jam. The bar, of course, was closing too. We went to my building and got up onto the roof. In every single direction, all you could see were taillights, as the entire loving city of ten million people emptied out overnight. I just kept repeating "...but you can't predict earthquakes!". I cannot describe to you the feeling of an entire city of people losing their goddamn minds around you. Everyone with a car got in it, drove out of the city, and pulled over and slept on the side of the highway as soon as they could find space. The next day, the city was a ghost town. Again, all based on a rumor we couldn't confirm.

I do not trust the official government numbers. But I trust the rumors even less. The truth is probably somewhere between the two, and very likely closer to the government figures than the wildest rumors you hear online.

So when you see images of packed hospitals, or empty streets, or occasional fights over food and empty shelves--this is the Chinese panicking, moreso than it is a true expression of the disease. That said, many of these panicked reactions (such as packing hospitals) will increase the rate of infection. There are some other reasons hospitals are packed right now.

The Chinese take IV-drips for almost everything. So even slightly fevers are often responded to with hospital visits. Here is a Reddit explanation from years ago.
https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/2w5jy9/eli5_why_so_many_iv_drips_in_china/

China one GP per 7,000 people, compared to the international standard of one for every 1,500 to 2,000 people, as recommended by the World Health Organization.

So hospitals are overwhelmed and understaffed in part because people are panicking and the medical infrastructure in China is not very good. I do expect that rates of infection for the virus are worse than the official numbers, and I expect that it will spread globally, but I also think the images you're seeing from China might be giving you a false idea of how bad it will be, because we're seeing the panic more than the disease itself. In addition, many videos you see online of people talking to the camera are based on rumors. We're reaching a place where the real contagion here is fear, not the disease.

Take measures to protect yourself from both.

# ? Jan 29, 2020 09:27

Mantis42: Jul 26, 2010

The real contagion is fear?!? That has the highest R0 value of all!! We're hosed!!

# ? Jan 29, 2020 09:29

Drinkfist: Aug 2, 2005

Mantis42 posted:

The real contagion is fear?!? That has the highest R0 value of all!! We're hosed!!

poo poo the forums are infected! Contain this man!

Wait.

... Contain me as well!

# ? Jan 29, 2020 09:36

Charlz Guybon: Nov 16, 2010

That last one sounds bad

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1222423489589673985

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1222428841844641792

# ? Jan 29, 2020 09:42

Kazak_Hstan: Apr 28, 2014; Grimey Drawer

am i gonna die from flying from anchorage to portland on thursday

50% ironically curious, 25% seriously curious, 25% unironically hopeful

# ? Jan 29, 2020 09:42

Kazak_Hstan: Apr 28, 2014; Grimey Drawer

r0 is pronounced "r naught"

who fuckin knew

nbcshootingstar.gif

# ? Jan 29, 2020 09:44

lord funk: Feb 16, 2004

Got driven to the grocery store today by a community vehicle. We got our temperature taken before getting in, and again at the entrance of the supermarket. Everyone is wearing a mask. And then... normal shopping. People are totally calm. I'm not sure I agree with that long post about Chinese people being susceptible to mass panic. People here in Wuhan at least are pretty pragmatic, and in my neighborhood everyone is totally normal (minus everything being closed, and the 100% mask rate).

I know someone on the plane that landed in AK. She decided to get on because she had a young kid. I know you all are joking about them bringing the virus, but she had to be at the airport at 6am to get tested all day for a 10pm flight. That plane is probably the least infected place on earth.

# ? Jan 29, 2020 09:46

Sheng-Ji Yang: Mar 5, 2014

yeah my guess why theyre ending at a military base rather than an airport is the airport/town complained

# ? Jan 29, 2020 09:49

Homeless Friend: Jul 16, 2007

Kazak_Hstan posted:

r0 is pronounced "r naught"

Borat, PhD in Virology

# ? Jan 29, 2020 09:49

CODChimera: Jan 29, 2009

remember when everyone was running around scared saying this was going to kill us all?

i hope you learned something from this experience

# ? Jan 29, 2020 09:57

Prince Myshkin: Jun 17, 2018

FRINGE posted:

Seemed worth grabbing.

https://www.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/eu7vsy/some_important_cultural_context/

I think the perspective of someone who lived for a couple years in a country that 10 years ago had hardly any high-speed rail lines but how has twice as much track as the rest of the world combined is worth very little.

# ? Jan 29, 2020 10:02

Prince Myshkin: Jun 17, 2018

For one, the "everybody gets an IV at the hospital" thing used to be true but I've heard it's way less common now.

# ? Jan 29, 2020 10:04

Tunicate: May 15, 2012

Kazak_Hstan posted:

r0 is pronounced "r naught"

who fuckin knew

nbcshootingstar.gif

no, it's pronounced

Tunicate fucked around with this message at 10:43 on Jan 29, 2020

# ? Jan 29, 2020 10:37

SSJ_naruto_2003: Oct 12, 2012

CODChimera posted:

remember when everyone was running around scared saying this was going to kill us all?

i hope you learned something from this experience

What. Did it get cured overnight

# ? Jan 29, 2020 10:49

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

Kazak_Hstan posted:

r0 is pronounced "r naught"

r deez naughts

# ? Jan 29, 2020 11:00

CODChimera: Jan 29, 2009

SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:

What. Did it get cured overnight

no but we've moved on to the 'spreading' phase so good progress is being made!

# ? Jan 29, 2020 11:07

NoNotTheMindProbe: Aug 9, 2010; pony porn was here

CODChimera posted:

no but we've moved on to the 'spreading' phase so good progress is being made!

I reached the spreading phase when I turned 30.

# ? Jan 29, 2020 11:11

VomitOnLino: Jun 13, 2005; Sometimes I get lost.

NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

I reached the spreading phase when I turned 30.

That's a long time for the balls to drop. Did you see a doc?

# ? Jan 29, 2020 11:34

Prince Myshkin: Jun 17, 2018

https://twitter.com/S_Rabinovitch/status/1222165940281991168?s=20

# ? Jan 29, 2020 11:37

Charles 2 of Spain: Nov 7, 2017

More like Wrong Nanshan

# ? Jan 29, 2020 11:58

Alan Smithee: Jan 4, 2005; A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

omw to gently caress ur bitch

someone plz photoshop Sheng's av into the plane

# ? Jan 29, 2020 12:08

Rogue Copter Pilot: Apr 12, 2005; a dead whale or a stove boat

Alan Smithee posted:

someone plz photoshop Sheng's av into the plane

hell, make the plane Schnorkles

# ? Jan 29, 2020 12:09

gh0stpinballa: Mar 5, 2019

i hope pangzai is okay

# ? Jan 29, 2020 12:31

Alan Smithee: Jan 4, 2005; A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

gh0stpinballa posted:

i hope pangzai is okay

he's always okay

# ? Jan 29, 2020 12:36

RedneckwithGuns: Mar 28, 2007; Up Next:
Fifteen Inches of
SHEER DYNAMITE

gh0stpinballa posted:

i hope pangzai is okay

I mean if its gonna be anything, at least it'd be funny if a coronavirus took down a guy that got famous for drinking lots of booze.

(Please be okay Pangzai